Worst aspect of Demigod

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Balance Change frequency.

Ok, minor stuff like the Heart of Life issue got taken care of after just, oh, 4 months or so.

But Queen of Thorns sucked from the start and it took less than a month for everyone to realize that she has no redeeming qualities apart from her artwork. Yet here we are, half a year later, and she still sucks. Oh, changes have been announced for the next patch which will probably come at the same time as the new two demigods and it will only be a matter of months before we get our hands on it.

But you know what's going to happen after that?

And on the seventh month GPG ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh month from all his work which he had made.
Genesis(-ish) 2:2

The next balance issues (real ones, not imagined ones) will have time enough to settle down and create a family.

 

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Reply #1 from Demigod Forums Top

Patience. :)  We're six months in, and we've had significant updates to the game already.  I can think of quite a few games that had serious issues, and some of them were fixed by a patch that came out a year after development, and then they slipped into obscurity.

Reply #2 from Demigod Forums Top

I think QoT is alright, just a bit different to play. She has aspects of fer skill tree which are rubbish but there are a million threads on here saying that almost all Demigods suffer this.

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Reply #3 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting FutileEmotion, reply 1
Patience.   We're six months in, and we've had significant updates to the game already.  I can think of quite a few games that had serious issues, and some of them were fixed by a patch that came out a year after development, and then they slipped into obscurity.
End of FutileEmotion's quote

patience ... something i used to have for this game. The development process of this game really needs to speed up.
Demigod is now competing with HoN and If demigods process isnt sped up, much of the player base will switch to HoN without a doubt. Which would be very unfortunate to those very loyal to demigod (such as myself).

Quoting Chowdown, reply 2
I think QoT is alright, just a bit different to play. She has aspects of fer skill tree which are rubbish but there are a million threads on here saying that almost all Demigods suffer this.
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all demigods do NOT suffer this. Every character except for QoT is rather well balanced and playable and have their purpose in the game. A lot of people will say "qot is different, you just gotta know how to use her", but theyre wrong. And alot of it IS coz of her skills tree but not only that, her stats are just inferior to every other demigod in game atm. People who think they know how to use her are in denial and are just looking for unecessary excuses that make out she can be equal to another demigod "if used in the right way". but through all the threads made on the qot issue, majority of the people argue that she is undeniable useless atm.

Reply #4 from Demigod Forums Top

A lot of people will say "qot is different, you just gotta know how to use her", but theyre wrong
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I am not looking to "make out she is OK or equal to another demigod," in my experience in playing her she seems to have a role and to be useful. What is your justification for me being wrong. My justification for her being ok is as follows:

With a minion build she can do alright damage

Her Bramble shield provides useful support to other demis

The AOE thorn out of the ground thing serves a usefull role in combat

With bramble shield and a decent tank she can be pretty hardy

Reply #5 from Demigod Forums Top

look at the facts and figures about her. Qot is the least used character, suggesting everything i mentioned in my post above. The few that do use her are those that are wasting their time in trying to find the most effective way to use her.

 

do urself and everyone else a favor, and stop sticking up for an underused/underpowered character.

Reply #6 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting gkrit, reply 5
look at the facts and figures about her. Qot is the least used character, suggesting everything i mentioned in my post above. The few that do use her are those that are wasting their time in trying to find the most effective way to use her.

 

do urself and everyone else a favor, and stop sticking up for an underused/underpowered character.
End of gkrit's quote

Do some research look at my posts, I do not suck up. You do yourself a favour and do not jump to assumptions.

 

Furthermore I have played her 20 or so times according to my stats, I have not lost with her. I do a fair amount of pugging. If it is OK with you I will draw on my own experience to coment.

Reply #7 from Demigod Forums Top

No patience here. run out .playin ROHAN :D
well average game last about 4-8 months = for demigod time is almost up, especially when u see so strong competition (HoN LoL).

Queen got really a lot uses. a really lot uses.. The thing most of people tend to do wrong with her is tanking and fighting in front. Thats not her use. Look she can shield everyone, even have freakin 5 shields running. She can slow enemy. She  can reduce armor of enemy. She can heal herself (by comsuming minons). The only thing she is missing in my opinion is stun or interupt. Then she would as good assoult god as UB or OAK. right now she is about same lvl with sedna=great support, little fighting power.

And best of all she is a general and minion build is quite good compared to oaks and sednas. Not as good as ereb coz he gets his ones for free :(

gkirt i know u are a very good player but i am suprised by your opinion. The only thing they should remove is a freakin useless lvl 15 tribute skill.

 

Ohh btw have you notice how long it takes now to get 3v3 or 4v4 going? that says something too. Oh well this is not Pay to Play game so it is obvius it will eventually die and developers will loose intrest in it

Reply #8 from Demigod Forums Top

Irek & chow, I have to agree with you.

Queen as an individual isn't the best, but when played in a team environment as support she is fantastic for the reasons mentioned.  I've also seen her played with great effect as a pusher without shield. 

Is she still the weakest demi?  Definitely.  But she's not uselss and her artwork is damn fine :)

 

Reply #9 from Demigod Forums Top

I wish things would update faster too, but I'm sure things will speed up once they get all their features that were missing into the game. v1.2 will help a lot then there will be Clan Wars. I'm pretty sure after Clan Wars they'll have so much time and man power that balance/item changes will happen much more frequently. Not to mention additional items being added.

Reply #10 from Demigod Forums Top

No, QoT is not useless.  She's quite decent up to about level 10 at support and creep busting as well as some occasional frontline work.  Her biggest problem is that her skills and battlefield presence noticeably decline after level 10.  It is only so much you can do with a Bramble shield and ground spikes against a 15th level UB, Oak, or LE.  And don't get me started on the poor Shamblers.  I don't think that she needs a big buff.  However, her lvl 15 skills (Tribute and Goddess of Thorns) definitely needs some work, as well as Uproot.

Reply #11 from Stardock Forums Top

Actually, the worst aspect of Demigod are the people who play it. Hands down. The game all by itself is a gem.

Reply #12 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Charvel1, reply 11
Actually, the worst aspect of Demigod are the people who play it. Hands down. The game all by itself is a gem.
End of Charvel1's quote

 

Nail on the head, bravo.

Reply #13 from Demigod Forums Top

Queen got really a lot uses. a really lot uses.. The thing most of people tend to do wrong with her is tanking and fighting in front. Thats not her use.
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I respectfully disagree.

Imho that is exactly the one role she's best at. It's just that almost nobody plays her this style (closed mode only; Shield&Mulch) because it's micromanagement intensive and "not fun".

Reply #14 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Reply #11  -Actually, the worst aspect of Demigod are the people who play it. Hands down. The game all by itself is a gem.

 

There are some great games to be played online, with competitive, respectful opponents.  There are some bad actors and idiots, but they seem to be in the minority.  It's a great game, but could use some improvements (soon), and an easier way for people to get through noob initiation.

Reply #15 from Demigod Forums Top

I used to play QoT for the majority of my games and also argued that she wasn't too bad. Then I played Sedna and realized that even if QoT isn't terrible, she's much worse.  QoT can hold the line well with a minion build, but her low attack and spells make it very hard for her to ever assassinate a decent player.  Sedna on the other hand is not only more of a tank, but she has team faster HP regeneration, runs fast, and can easily interrupt spells.

Reply #16 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting gkrit, reply 3

Quoting FutileEmotion, reply 1Patience.   We're six months in, and we've had significant updates to the game already.  I can think of quite a few games that had serious issues, and some of them were fixed by a patch that came out a year after development, and then they slipped into obscurity.
patience ... something i used to have for this game. The development process of this game really needs to speed up.
Demigod is now competing with HoN and If demigods process isnt sped up, much of the player base will switch to HoN without a doubt. Which would be very unfortunate to those very loyal to demigod (such as myself).


Quoting Chowdown, reply 2I think QoT is alright, just a bit different to play. She has aspects of fer skill tree which are rubbish but there are a million threads on here saying that almost all Demigods suffer this.
all demigods do NOT suffer this. Every character except for QoT is rather well balanced and playable and have their purpose in the game. A lot of people will say "qot is different, you just gotta know how to use her", but theyre wrong. And alot of it IS coz of her skills tree but not only that, her stats are just inferior to every other demigod in game atm. People who think they know how to use her are in denial and are just looking for unecessary excuses that make out she can be equal to another demigod "if used in the right way". but through all the threads made on the qot issue, majority of the people argue that she is undeniable useless atm.
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You mean kinda like you are doing right now?

Reply #17 from Demigod Forums Top

QoT+ cloak of night = win :D.

However... shamblers sucks...they really are just walking potions. Her only redeeming quality from other generals is her long range attack imo. If shamblers were fixed and working? would they be useful?

Reply #18 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Chowdown, reply 6


do urself and everyone else a favor, and stop sticking up for an underused/underpowered character.
Do some research look at my posts, I do not suck up. You do yourself a favour and do not jump to assumptions.

 
Furthermore I have played her 20 or so times according to my stats, I have not lost with her. I do a fair amount of pugging. If it is OK with you I will draw on my own experience to coment.
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this is why Qot is never going to be changed, not even her useless skills.

it gives the devs an excuse not to even bother changing her in one way or another.

if she is changed, id be surprised, but glad.

 

fact is, QoT just doesnt scale late game. In a 3v3 with both teams just as skilled as the other, if there is only one Qot in the game, chances are that team that has her is gonna lose. Ive seen it happen all the time with her. first reason is coz her stats are shit and second reason is coz shes got no useful passive ability (unlike sedna). and because of these things she cant hold her own in a "capture the portal" situation.

Reply #19 from Demigod Forums Top

/signed.

Balance change frequency/frequent miscellaneous minor updates should be very easy to deliver with impulse and the like.

I just thought with such an easy distribution network for patches, constant minor hotfixes/mini-updates would be the norm.

Are big major patches the way to handle this genre?

Reply #20 from Demigod Forums Top

am i the only one waiting for modding to be implemented for this to be sorted. SD and Frogboy in perticualr have said on a number of occasions that if mods become popular (and judging by this thread, ones that balance the game will) that they will include them in furture patches.

or am i overstating the power of modding???

Reply #21 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting mrlarone, reply 20
am i the only one waiting for modding to be implemented for this to be sorted. SD and Frogboy in perticualr have said on a number of occasions that if mods become popular (and judging by this thread, ones that balance the game will) that they will include them in furture patches.

or am i overstating the power of modding???
End of mrlarone's quote

 

Lol future patches... I have a feeling this will be our last patch.

Reply #22 from Demigod Forums Top

well as i understand it we're waiting on the patch from GPG.

if a mod(s) is popular then i believe SD would be able to distribute them via impulse so that they become part of the game proper.

not sure what your experience with SD is (i.e. how many of there games you own) but i find that there pretty good with this kind of stuff. GPG has been the the main source of delay.

please correct me if i'm wrong.

Reply #23 from Demigod Forums Top

Just to clarify, 1.2 is coming out.  Eta = unknown/unannounced.  Here's the gist as I understand it.  Take a list of things that are to be included in 1.2.  Send that list to GPG.  GPG creates builds that include some of those fixes/enhancements.  SD puts those builds through QA.  QA tells GPG there is an issue with blank.  GPG revises.  Creates new build.  Sends to SD... and so on.  I think that's how this goes from what I've read.  If you KNOW differently, please chime in.

1.2 WILL NOT have the new demigods in it.  Presumably some other version will. 

Reply #24 from Demigod Forums Top

1.2 WILL NOT have the new demigods in it. Presumably some other version will.
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wow... now im speechless.

im pretty sure a lil while ago, it was said by frogboy the new demis were nearly finished, and now theyre just taking ages to release them?

Reply #25 from Demigod Forums Top

1.2 and the 2 new Demigods are seperate. That doenst effect when either 1.2 or the Demigods will be released. They could come out before 1.2 or after.