Custom Match: WARNING

The following three players: trevster, FourKingHigh, and lordfrodo.

Warning is as follows: Hosting games labeled "3v3 no premade", of which they are a premade. Upon being successful in beating back my small group of pick up people (champs all the one), FourKingHigh gave a 'gg' in All Chat, and immediately following was a Invalid Gamestate Error. The match does not appear on the list of games, though it may since I just left it, however, several of FourKingHigh's games are labeled with No Premade, of which the rule does not apply to them. On one such game, the winning side, FourKingHigh's, received 100+ Favor Points, losing side received 0, minus one team member who got 70 for whatever reason.

In summary. Play these games at your own risk as I highly advise them to be avoided. I would appreciate it if Stardock's game moderator/security personnel look into this because it is a highly unfavorable waste of player time and sure to run an already small band of players into an even smaller band. I was unable to obtain any form of screenshot as the error appeared and I was promptly booted. However, I did, due to the recent rise in this, record all of their names. Do what you will with them, but I believe they should be banned permanently from any Stardock related material. I don't appreciate it, and I think it should be punishable by the largest absolute conclusion possible to be made an example of.

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Reply #1 Top

Please stop complaining about premades (play in team, too), stop complaining about guys that leave or make the game crash when they have lost : you have win dont you ? so what is the problem ? are you playing to have good stats ?

There should not be any stats, things would be simpler.

Me too dislike when game does not finish with a proper 'victory' screen, but the guys used a trick to give up the game : you pwned them and they are damned cowards, thats all : they did not cheat they just loose the game in the most miserable way.

Reply #2 Top

Quoting ese-aSH, reply 1
Please stop complaining about premades (play in team, too), stop complaining about guys that leave or make the game crash when they have lost : you have win dont you ? so what is the problem ? are you playing to have good stats ?

There should not be any stats, things would be simpler.

Me too dislike when game does not finish with a proper 'victory' screen, but the guys used a trick to give up the game : you pwned them and they are damned cowards, thats all : they did not cheat they just loose the game in the most miserable way.
End of ese-aSH's quote
If he feels like warning other people of these 3 players than he can, and why don't you stop whining about what people post on the forums it is a perfectly fine post warning people who care about stats.

Reply #3 Top

all i got from your post was:

Custom Match: WARNING blurryhunter cannot take losing to better players
End of quote

Reply #4 Top

@Shiro_Sol : you are correct, but I did not intend to be aggressive or meprisant toward the OP, sorry if my post sounds like this (you might have noticed that english is not my primary langage, I may not manage to say things as I wish).

These times I read more and more messages about the 'demigod community'. And when we say 'demigod community' we only think of the visible part of it, meaning guys that write on forums and some very frustrating players in game. I think ignoring frustrating guys, and speaking of the good times we have on DG instead of the bad times would be a good thing (being honest, I often whine too, but I try to keep it for me).

And one last thing : do you really play for the 'victory' screen and the 'victory' stats, or just for pleasure of knowing you have beaten the opposite team ? Personnaly I do not care of people trying to hide their defeat (in demigod or anywhere else). Once again : noone cares about your stats, is it really important if a game does not appear there ?

Reply #5 Top

For starters, we were losing. I've got nothing wrong with premade games, but I have something against people who knowingly stack the odds in their favor by lying. The game state issue isn't something I run into often, but for those of us, me for example, who lack any large number of favor, it's an irritant. Win/Loss stats don't mean anything to me, but I'd like the Favor Points, even if it's from a loss. I don't mind losing, but I do mind cheating, knowingly cheating, and playing people for idiots, hence the warning, and hence the 'play at your own risk'.

Reply #6 Top

So... you're accusing them of causing a desync while they were winning...?

Reply #7 Top

[Double post]

Reply #8 Top

Eh.. sounds more like it wasnt done intentionally. Or someone on your team did it?

And yes an arranged team lying to get to play random teams is a bit wrong.

Reply #9 Top

As I said before, I don't mind if I win or lose, since Favor Points are gained regardless. However, due to that desync, nothing was gained. It happened at exactly the same time the host mentioned 'gg' and I'm highly doubting it was my teammates as I was in constant contact with them and neither were complaining or saying anything towards the idea that they were pissed we were losing. Several of FourHighKing's games look completely screwed up, due in large part to gaining favor points while several others on a losing side are completely screwed out of any points, even the default 40 you get for losing.

Reply #10 Top

So you were losing? Then why would they end the game?

Reply #11 Top

i have played with fourking i think and he didnt cause such an error intentionally though we lost!

perhaps it was a 24h disconnect or something. just happened to me.

i dont really know what causes a desync but fourking certainly is "innocent".

Reply #12 Top

Never said I understood the reasons behind it. It was a premade game labeled as not to stack the odds and the moment the host said 'good game' it dove straight to my desktop. Eitherway, the intent of the post was a warning to watch your ass if you see that game up. I can't stop people from joining, I can't stop people from having opinions, and I won't try. I'm more pissed off that my teammates lost Favor then I am about myself. Not hard for me to just jump into another game, but it's not fair to them.

End result is that the game was screwed up, there's a high probability it was done before, and I gave a warning so people don't get the short end of the stick thinking they're joining something fair.

Reply #13 Top

I have to say this:

 

Premades are fine.  Playing with your friends is fine, although that can beconsidered a "premade" team. 

Saying no premade while in fact being one is messed up.  I will join games that say premade and play then with a pub team.  But for someone t odecive others so that they have an advatage is wrong.

Reply #14 Top

i agree with stacked on this one. ive played with fourking, he joins all sorts of games. look at his game list, theres no sign of a premade team there..

Reply #15 Top

well well well... what do YOU call a premade?

Yes, I am one of his 3 supposed cheaters. First of all we were winning, and had no reason to desync the game. I'm pissed it happened and I lost my win too. why are you complaining you missed out on a loss? FYI I think it was YOU or one of your 2 partners who caused the gamestate error IF it was anyone. For the sake of courtesy I'll assume it was unintentional and/or NOT you.

Second, while I did not host the game (or set the name) me and fourkinghigh do not constitute a premade, at least by most definitions. I dont even know trevster, and judging by fourking's chat, he didnt either. While I do occasionally try to hop into fourking's games I do it because he's a good sportsman, an above average player and an all around good guy. I gladly play against him too if someone beats me to the spots on light side. I do not have voice chat, I do not play with him all the time, I DO chat with him about various things other than DG in a game lobby, simply because it's nice to chat. the entire extent of our relationship is that he's in my friends list with 25+ other people I've found to be pleasent to play with/against. I will always choose such a game over random teammates if I can.

So then, do you really think a person hopping into a game on his friend list is a Premade? is that really worth all your griping, complaining and character bashing? In the games I've played with fourking he has always been nice to friend and foe alike... even the ones who suck. Hell, he even offered a GG to you and you turn around and treat him like dirt. The sad part is you probably won't even realize how much of a jerk your being, to people who would be happy to play any setup. hell, if you'd asked he or I would have probably joined your side in another game.

So, go ahead. Warn people away from good and friendly players. Dont even ask us what was up, OR check the games list to see if we're REALLY what you think we are. Assume that any team that beats you cheated. OR you could get over the loss and be a good sport and come play with the rest of us. Up to you really. I honestly hope you can join me sometime, at least if you can learn to be a little more friendly and a little less of a jerk.

Reply #16 Top

trevester isn't very good, fourkinghigh sucks and who the fuck even is the last guy?

Reply #17 Top

trevster is my brother (I sometimes play on his account).  He has no friends list or vent or real-life DG friends for him to ever set up a premade with.  If he has a good game with or against someone, he'll attempt to join that person's game again.  That's all.  Check play history and count how many games they play together vs not before you call premade.

Your accusation of cheating needs to be removed from this thread, in case some mod doesn't read the part where THEY WERE WINNING.

Reply #18 Top

Quoting SocialistRyan, reply 16
trevester isn't very good, fourkinghigh sucks and who the fuck even is the last guy?
End of SocialistRyan's quote

posts like this suck... just insulting! where is your point? did you wanna tell us what a jerk you are? well done!

Reply #19 Top

AHHHH THE PEOPLE ARE CALLING!

 

RANDOM TEAMS PLEASE!

 

p.s. sorry about the caps.

Reply #20 Top

Quoting Echnaton84, reply 18



Quoting SocialistRyan,
reply 16
trevester isn't very good, fourkinghigh sucks and who the fuck even is the last guy?


posts like this suck... just insulting! where is your point? did you wanna tell us what a jerk you are? well done!
End of Echnaton84's quote

His point is that you shouldn't whine about a supposed premade if they're not that good anyways....

Reply #21 Top

Quoting Wogrim, reply 20

His point is that you shouldn't whine about a supposed premade if they're not that good anyways....
End of Wogrim's quote

if this really is his point he should express is in a more... hmm let me say "unjerkish" manner. just like you did.

Reply #22 Top

Quoting Echnaton84, reply 21

Quoting Wogrim, reply 20
His point is that you shouldn't whine about a supposed premade if they're not that good anyways....
if this really is his point he should express is in a more... hmm let me say "unjerkish" manner. just like you did.
End of Echnaton84's quote
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oh noes someone was mean. on the internet! quick get the police! call the fcc.

 

grow up. who cares? if hes that good i invite him to prove me wrong.

Reply #23 Top

lordfrodo sounded more convincing to me than OP.

respect ppl, live and let live etc.

although, i generally remove 'no premades' tag from my game if i've played with the same gang for more than 2 games. just kinda feels wrong to have that there if i know that im having the same teammates as before. no critique intended tho. 

Reply #24 Top

How many games do you need to play with the same people to beccome a premade?

Seems like there's so few in the Au community that you can pretty much play with all of them in a couple of days.... Is every game thereafter a premade?

Reply #25 Top

Quoting Lukas_A_79, reply 24
How many games do you need to play with the same people to beccome a premade?

Seems like there's so few in the Au community that you can pretty much play with all of them in a couple of days.... Is every game thereafter a premade?
End of Lukas_A_79's quote


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