comparing with another DoTA inspired game: League of Legend

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 another one of these threads

  I don't like how LoL only has 4 actives and 1 passive.

  LoL skills are also worse than DotA's.  Well, they're like the old DotA hero's which havent' gotten redone by Icefrog yet.  Icefrog is a better skill designer than the old DotA guys.
  However, I hear LoL skills are getting redone to be improved, and the ones they had up on the site are just old..

  Besides that, I don't know.  The invite beta starts soon.

Don't get me started...

League of Legends...did they just get the WC3 engine for that game?  I just looked at screenshots and the graphics look almost the same as WC3.  Art style looks very silly.  Don't really know anything about the gameplay

Edit:  just looked into LoL a bit more....the graphics suck, but I have to say it sounds a bit more promising.  already a huge following (mainly from the dota community) and the game seems to be headed in a more dota-like competitive direction. i have a feeling that demigod and LoL will be different enough, though, that they will draw from different groups of players.  it'll probably be worth playing both of them. but who knows, LoL isn't close to being out yet, Demigod is.  hopefully i get into LoL beta, would be excited to give feedback on it like I have for this game

It is a bit TOO bright.  I wish they wen't more for painted.  They have some nice concept art.  Couldn't they have made it look painted like the concept art?

Actually makes my eyes hurt.  I have really ncie color on my monitor, which means i have to turn down the saturation just to wathc the videos.

I don't care that the graphics are bad so much as their bright cartoony art style choice.  It's like diablo3 with slightly less ponies and rainbows.

But maybe the gameplay is good.  Really.. it probably will be good.

Yeah, it's like a candy coated version of WC3 graphics, which is saying something.  Diablo 3 doesn't come close to being like that stuff.  Haha.  But if they really focus on making it competitive / e-sporty then it may be worth playing despite the annoying art direction.

I'm kind of glad the graphics are so decidedly different from Demigod, though.  Means it's even more likely that the games will play and feel differently enough to be worth having both.

League of Legends-Clash of Fates is a stand alone game under development since 2006-2007 by Riot Games, some of the key/lead Developers are Steve (GUINSOO) Feak and Steve (Pendragon) Mescon. Guinsoo if you know what Dota, was the former Developer/Modder for Dota Allstars, Pendragon is still currently one of the lead Admins for the Dota Allstars Forums and if you put them all together for a game, you will be sure the game is gonna be crazy and fun...

Please check the link>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Legends:_Clash_of_Fates

I personally believe that both games will be able to co-exist, and in a weird way, one game will help support the other by making this genre that much more known and played outside of the regular dota community.  For example, some guys are command & conquer guys, some guys are starcraft guys, but both RTS games co-existed well with each other, and even though some people who were new to the RTS genre may not have liked command & conquer, they may have found their fit with starcraft, for example.

Sure, some will prefer Demigod, some will prefer League of Legends.  I've pre-ordered Demigod, and I plan on checking out LoL when it comes out as well.  My greatest conrern for LoL, however, is that it will get most of the elitist community from DotA.  As several people know, the elitist DotA community isn't exactly the friendliest bunch.  However, my fear may be completely unfounded, and both games may get outstanding communities.

I'm looking forward to our Demigod / LoL future 

the good thing about LoL that was totally missing in dota is that it will have a good tutorial. this will totally tear down the great learning curve barrier that exists.

LoL will have different maps and gamemodes too instead of just the 5v5 dota map, which will be a big improvement.

But what I never liked about DotA was there weren't any character builds.  DotA was about memorizing how to play each hero.  You bought pretty much the same items with that character each game, because those items worked best with it.  It wasn't aabout makigna biuld with items to suit that build.. each character had a way you had to build it.  So it was all about playing the char to it's strengths.  I guess some people like that.. I don't.

I'm sure it'll be a great game for DotA fans, so right there it'll sell probably 100k-500k copies, which is a lot consisdering they probably have a budget that just costs them a dollar per player their going to get.  But I never liked DotA much in the first place.

It's sure going to hurt Demigod, reputation wise I think, if LoL has double the matches played in leagues, so hopefully Demigod will be shaped up a lot better by the time LoL is released.

in contrast, dota has dozens of characters. in demigods you will have several builds, but will have to pick the same character several times.

a lot of good things about dota is playing roles on team and combining different hero combinations replacing heroes with others that play the same general role to see how they work out differently. and i'm sure likewise, demigod you will have to see how your unclean beast dps build will work out compared to your regulus build.

Anything that will get the nutty Dota zealots to go away has to be a good thing. All hail LOL.

Currently we don't really have several builds in Demigod, however.

We do, they just aren't balanced out for every DG.  The best right now in terms of multiple viable builds are probably Regulus and UB, imo.  The rest need some work, but they have more than 3 weeks to get it right

Well TB you could play Fire or Ice.  Yeah, Ice is clearly better. But assuming they where balanced, that's really just two builds.  There shuold be multiple ways to play fire, multiple ways to play ice.

If they keep present skill lines then there would be - you forgot stats builds ^^

  The skill lines are fine.

  If skills had prereqs for the other skills then there would be LESS choice.

  Some branches to upgrade particular skills different ways is fine, but the game would be terrable if getting boulder roll required archer tower.

  And stats aren't going to add builds either.  You'll just be playing the same with more or less hp, more or less armor, more or less damage.

   It's mostly the lack of skills.
   Like you can't really play Sedna without getting Pounce, Heal, and the 15% move speed buff.  That's 11 of your points right there, or something.  Sedna is pretty much balanced around those skills.  It feels really lacking if you tried playing Sedna without heal, or without pounce.  I could understand without pounce, but it's hard to play her as just support.  It needs more actives you can choose from to actually give choice.
   Like if they added a skill that's a self buff, which improves her support abilities temporarily at the cost of the buff ending if she uses and offensive skill like pounce, then she could play better as pure support, without being overpowered offensively.
   Basically.. need more than 4 actives to choose form. 

   Oak is a better example.  For me, it seems like to play Oak you need to have all of his skills.   It's hard to focus with him.. his current skills need work with that.

Well, in response to your point about builds, I think the tradeoff is even if LoL heroes all sort of have one perfect way to play them, there are going to be like 16-20 of them in at release and probably many more to come, so there will be a ton of variety.  Demigod, even once it's updated with more Demigods and skills, will have a lot fewer Demigods with perhaps 1-2, maybe as much as 3 main builds.  So it'll even out. 

My hope is that Demigod and LoL are both fun but are apples / oranges enough so that people aren't constantly comparing them, and so that there won't be a zero sum feeling between the playerbases.  In other words, people will play both games, not one or the other.  It'll probably be that way to a significant degree no matter what, though.

LOL!

wow and people talk about dota players being elitist? demigod hasn't even come out yet and you're already acting all high and mighty about it.

QFT.  Hipocracy ftw.  So many people here love to hate on DotA and complain about the DotA playerbase, when they're just as elitist / close minded towards people who bring up DotA or who aren't diehard Stardock (Sins, Supreme Commander etc) fans.  Unfortunately, based on recent posting, this appears to include Frogboy.

Not wanting the game you're playing to be reworked entirely into a game that already exists is not elitism.

Supreme Commander has nothing to do with Stardock - nada. But your point is still very valid, people shouldn't bash good games at all, actually you shouldn't bash any game, if it is bad just ignore it and be done with it.

I am here because I want to play Demigod. I have played Dota and I don't like it. I get pretty sick of the same half dozen Dota zealots attacking everything about Demigod that isn't like Dota.

I have been plenty critical about Demigod during the betas and now that it is really good in most ways, I feel good about my posting contributions.  It's not elitism to not want the game you like turned into a game you don't like.

PI - you are the poster child of the obnoxious Dota fans. If you had been around here for even more than a few weeks you would know how much Frogboy and all the Stardock and GPG people have taken people's suggestions very seriously and put them into the game.

Your definition of what is close minded is someone not being willing, at the 11th hour, to turn Demigod into a Dota clone. We get it, you like Dota. Please, for the love of god, go play that and leave us alone.