TEC Capships

How do you guys say these things stack up?  It looks to me like the Kol and the Marza are the best, with the Dunov being the worst; the Sova and Akkan atleast have somewhat useful abilties in the form of Embargo and Colonize.  Also, what are the best abilities to put on them?

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Well, the Dunovs aren't that bad. Compared to Kols, Kortuls and Radiances, they suck, but EMP blasts really help during combat.

Akkans are decent for being light starships. Kols are the demons of all demons. Sovas are decent in combat, like Marzas, but are best at supporting ideals- i.e., bombarding, long-range support, carrier.

Over, they have good ships, but not the greatest. The special abilities are one of the key things that make units worthwhile, let alone speed and strength.

Just me, though.

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Well if you have a few Dunov's restoring shields they might never die! That was a nasty trick in the betas.

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the Martzas are the best level 1 cap ship. 1 on 1 they can destroy any other capital ship. but in the late game they are deadly because of missile barrage. which can devestate enemy fleets

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the dunov got a nasty little buff for the beta. its only usefull as a support  for another cap ship like a marza or a kol. imagine having a kol cast finest hour 6 times thats what a dunov is for lol.

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Akkons targeting uplink ability can be very useful. When upgraded it increases to effectivness of all your other ships in range by like ....30%?? (correct me if wrong). 

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Vasari Cap ships eat them for breakfast }:) . All hail the mighty Space Egg!

 

In seriousness, I find TEC caps to be good ships, with the Marza being my favorite followed closely by the Kol. Just watch out for Space Eggs and Kortul Devistators as they can give you a hard time, espically in combination.

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Quoting Cataclysm2000, reply 6
In seriousness, I find TEC caps to be good ships, with the Marza being my favorite followed closely by the Kol. Just watch out for Space Eggs and Kortul Devistators as they can give you a hard time, espically in combination.
End of Cataclysm2000's quote

well thats true for all vasari ships. if you make a balanced vasari fleet it is next to unsopable becasue the vasari ships all fill a role in a large fleet. even the Advent would have trouble stopping a vasari fleet with the carriers having repair cloud probably the best support ability in the game

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I like the TEC capital ships, but you need to feild them as a balanced unit, not use them individually.

So a fleet with 5 capital ships, has one of each, and their combined abilities make the fleet more formidable.

The Dunov may be less combat effective, but a fleet without a Dunov is much more vulnerable. If I ahve the choice to add 1 more capital ship to a fleet (where the fleet already has a balanced set of capitals), I'll add another Dunov. The extra sheild ability can make all the difference in a large battle.

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The dunov is the only TEC cap ship that can restore health to a ship (each race has one ship that can restore health, amusingly, the dunov's is lame in comparison because it can only heal one ship).  If you are playing Go Big or Go Home, having 5 or 6 dunovs is a must because it will keep your cap ship alive that is being focused fired.

Two problems I have with the dunov is that it only restores shields and it can't heal itself (unlike the other ships with health restore abilities from other races).  If you are going against a vasari player, those phase missel's will eventually take the hull to 0 and the ship will be destroyed, even with 100% shields.

Reply #10 Top

Dunov is meh, but what the hell is going on with Akkan's Targeting Uplink?  The aura is so useless, first of all, you rarely run into problems with accuracy in this game, unless you are trying to shoot down strike ships.  The aura need work, since it doesn't even stack, or does it?  No one wants to target uplink, b/c friends won't let friends do that.

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Akkan's Targeting Uplink?
End of quote
Range boost. And it gives an advantage in asteroid fields where accuracy is reduced.

 

:fox:

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Vasari capital ships are REALLY strong. A friend and I tried doing a FULL All out war... We both had 1500 supply used a single battle set in a SUN.

I had 5 Capital Ships (1 Akkan, 1 Kol, 1 Sova, 1 Dunov, 1 Marza). 200 Javalis. 25 Kodiaks. 60 Percherons w/ bombers, 40 Cobalts. 30 Hoshikos, 30 Cielo Command Cruisers, 40 Gardas.

He on the other hand had 12 Capital Ships. And a mixture of units more or less the Vasari equivalent of mine.

We let the AI do everything. My TEC fleet was wiped out. He suffered 3 capital ships lost, and several units. It was a rout. In ratio I guess for every 5 lost TEC unit, he suffered 1 lost Vasari Unit.

Gamewise I would have won since I had to wait an additional 30 minutes for him to fully form his fleet. But doing a frontal war with the Vasari is just plain suicide.

Reply #13 Top

You got egged :grin:

The Vasari are supposed to be insanely powerful - they ruled an empire of thousands of worlds when humans were figuring out space flight.

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LOL, PointlessAgony you suffered a pointless agony b/c as TEC your empire shins in economy not your fleet.  Besides,  you were up against 12 VASARI caps with only the puny 5 tec caps, what did you think would happen?  Your Marza probably died right away, lol.  Tell you what, as the big bad TEC?  Just pump out your super duper Kodiaks with Gardas man, those are your super weapons, with Hoshi they are like the iron great wall of China.  Lastly, but not the least, during the late game, you need more fighters than bombers, anyway. So yea, you were pretty much a goner, even before the battle started.  You had 5 times more Javalis than Cobalts, and no fighters?  That didn't even make any sense.

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Quoting Kyrein, reply 13
You got egged

The Vasari are supposed to be insanely powerful - they ruled an empire of thousands of worlds when humans were figuring out space flight.
End of Kyrein's quote


Exactly. 10,000 years ago was really. . . now. They ruled the entire goddamn universe and we didn't know shit and thought we were alone.

 

We were wrong.


VASARI BITCHES- coming to a theater near you.

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lol yeah

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I wonder when we find out what they're running from.

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They hinted at revealign who it was.


I think I may have some idea. . .

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Maybe like Halo, how the Forerunners (and covenant) were scared shitless because of the Flood and were always running?

It could be an organism .. .

 

Or maybe they created Humanity. Sorta like Predator .. .

Reply #22 Top

Gotta laugh. :)

12 Vasari Capital ships needs a 16 TEC capital ship response. Your 5 were just toast. :)

200 Javalis ? What on earth for ? In that kind of battle, they are just cannon fodder. Should have built the extra capital ships and a great deal more Kodiaks. I'd have taken in 100 kodiaks and 100 Carriers and no javalis at all. 150 carriers if I could manage it. 50 fighters to protect 100 bombers and have the bombers co-ordinate attacks on single cap ships doing the most damage, while the entire fleet targets each capital ship in turn until its dead and move onto the next. Forget the AI doing ships firing on their designed targets, in a big furball like that, you need concentrated firepower to take down the most dangerous ships first as fast as possible.

 

Reply #23 Top

Quoting Kyrein, reply 18
I wonder when we find out what they're running from.
End of Kyrein's quote

 

Spoler Alert

 

 

It's Chuck Norris and Mr.T, riding in Mr.T's space van.

 

One by one worlds fell silent...

 

Reply #24 Top

I think what will be hilarious is when the campaign for this game comes out.  Here's the ending:

"After fighting the Vasari for 15 years and the Advent for 5 years, all of a sudden all players lose and you don't know how.  Game over.  The end"

Reply #25 Top

I really hope they add a 4th race just to piss everyone off with more balancing issues hahaha

 

but yea akkan seems puny its targeting uplink or w/e doesn't stack and doesn't bring much to the table to begin with.

 

I used to be a fan of the Kol but Marza has taken its place