OMG XXX is overpowered nerf XXX...

from Sins Forums
As someone who mostly reads the forums instead of posting in them, I've noticed a recent trend of people asking the devs to nerf various units and techs in the game, nearly all of them Vasari and Advent.

Now, I have no problem at all with incremental tweaks to the game for the sake of fixing exploits and discouraging spams, but this is getting a bit ridiculous. All the units and techs that were singled out are what makes Advent and Vasari different from TEC and each other; by downgrading them and making them into mere analogues of what TEC has, it destroys what arguably makes this game the best - its depth and complexities.

So my plead to the devs: just because a few people's mass HC fleets were beaten by better players, doesn't mean you suddenly need to nerf all the things that makes this game unique.

My two cents.
strategy
8,115 views 4 replies
Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top
This is common to pretty much every multiplayer rts. As soon as you make civs different, there are imbalances. It's just impossible really to balance apples and oranges. Relative strength is about all you can tweak so something isn't grossly overpowered.
Reply #2 from Sins Forums Top
It's a common problem. First, some people talk of balance thinking of specific things, like just talking about RA. They don't think about how long its take research it, or the gates' vulnerability to half a dozen TEC scouts with the anti-building upgrades. The devs do, they think about the whole three-way picture. Granted, sometimes the devs assume many bad things that leads to imbalances while they think its leads to balance.

Second, people hate losing, and they hate even more to accept they lost. Thus the first reaction is always "Hacks!! Cheaters!!! Exploits!! Imbalance!!" and never that they lost fair.
WindowBlinds - Free yourself of the default settings, customize your desktop.
Reply #3 from Sins Forums Top
Want to know what i think? well to bad i am going to tell you.

1) Sins has a wonderful system where if your good you are good. opposed to if your good your not much better then everyone else becase everything is the same. The amount of tactical choiced avalible are infinate if something is not working try something else.

2) I think the ending techs were more or less desinged to end the game not prolonge them. If it takes you 3 hours to get there why whould you want another 3 to implement them. If your good you either have the superwopens and win or you stop them from getting them.

This does not apply for all games for there all diffrent but for a majoirty i think its true.
Reply #4 from Sins Forums Top
Im getting tired of reading about nerfs as well, I play TEC and I just hope that doesnt get nerfed anymore . Cant speak for vasari or advent, as mentioned Im leaving advent because every man and his dog seems to go them :) but I am going to try vasari just to give me another option. I totally agree about uniqueness going out the window if anyone but veterans i.e competitive players start reccomending balance changes(I suppose Im even hesitant in saying that though because the game has to cater for us mere mortals as well)

Problem is when you have players who cheat and DC and such things so as not to get a recorded loss then its people like that who rather than having a reality check and saying Im not the best they will do anything to the game just to miantain stats that dont really show the true picture. (Including excessive balance changes to benefit their preferred race - yeah It cynical but I have seen it before in many games)

Fact is strats arent my thing but I LOVE the way this game plays , as for starcraft and what not Its not my cup off tea, I bought sins because being a gamer who has games I love in every other genres well I think strats for the most part are rush orientated rubbish. I realise balance changes are needed in rare cases but I worry to many will dull down the game, I feel like some are trying to shape sins into a duplicate of whats already available. I know maybe the odd thing needs changed but all I ask is please be careful (To devs,players, everyone - yeah this must be the 3rd time Ive said this but I when to the devs get to a point and say "You cant please all of the people all of the time" because what going to happen in a few months is everything will be watered down, you think games last a while now? hehe. Yeah the fact so many stalemate shows you the factions must be balanced to a good degree and the balance employed work to a decent degree for how the game plays no? )