Best race to learn the game?

go for tec!!!that is the easiest way to learn

I think that they are all easy to learn. It just comes down to what race earns your interest.

The T.E.C. is simpler if only because they speak your language. Some of the structures/research of the Advent and Vasari are wrapped up in esoteric language that makes trying to figure out what is what a lot more difficult. Their research is arranged fairly linearly, E.G. economic upgrades go in the industrial section, the "MOAR DAKKA" upgrades are in the ballistics/weapons/whatever section.

Just star a single player game and play around with it

You ,Sir, win internets just for the 40k Orkyness.
Moar Dakka indeed.
Someone need to try and 40k mod for this game

Anyways, you should probably go for the TEC first as he says. They have a good spread of techs IMHO. That is they don't seem to focus too much on any one area. Well okay they are good at economy, which is what you would expect from a bunch of traders. Plus their ship abillities don't seem as "tricky" to learn for me. That is they don't have weird names and do what you would think they would do.

TEC are by far the simplest, the vasari require quite a bit of intelligent dedication of force, and the advent require a good combination of fleet force and a little micro, but the TEC are really just powerhouses.

Why is it that the "human" race is always the default starter race in any game? Im not saying that they are not powerful, but damn. Mankind isnt always that simple...

What tips would you give to a beginning Vasari player?

Mankind would be the simplest for a human to understand compared with any alien race (or radicly evolved human-esque group). In absolute terms, no humans aren't simple for other humans to understand. In relative terms to other species though, we're a piece of cake.

But yea I'd start with the TEC and then go on from there.

You want volcanic planets (and you'll need them, because trade ports don't come until tier 5). They have research to reduce pirate attacks very early on, so conserve your cred and let them come to you.

Use your navigators to find asteroid belts/gas giants and colonize the mining bases on them.

They're not a very big culture-producer, their research tech goes towards reducing cultural enroachment.

The Vasari get to build their own phase lanes between their planets, so if you're having trouble juggling multiple frontier planets getting hammered, build their phase stabilizers in your system and they'll work better (you can also summon ships or something, the summon the dark fleet tech)

Thanks. But wouldn't other players want those planets? By the way you're saying them they must be resource rich.

Volcanics are generally very metal heavy (which is something the Vasari struggles more with than the other races, especially in the beginning).

The other races generally covet ice planets over volcanics in the beginning One major advantage the Vasari get is that their scout captures the neutral mines. Since your scouts fly around everywhere in the beginning, it's a lot easier to capture them than having colony ships run around.

Oh no, all volcano planets have metal asteroids, but the Vasari have a lot of volcanic planet research they can do to maximize income from them.

IMO they are all the same as you can autocast abilities and the AI is really good on using them at the right times (vasari carrier's repair thing just when most of my ships in range's shields go down)

Ok, my friend and i have only had this game for a short period of time and we havnt actualy versed each other yet. Now he likes to be the TEC, and I'm wondering which race I should choose to use against him.  I'm leaning towards Vasari, but there seems to be alot of dispute about just how good they are. My friend likes to have large fleets of the standard frigats and lots of fighter squadrons. Any sugestions scientists?

By the way, any body have any idea whats chasing the Vasari around?

the three races are VERY balanced. there are alot of similar units and the primary differences are in their technology trees and their capital ships. they do differ heavily in emphasis. TEC get trade ports very early, Advent get culture buildings very early, Vasari get some important military upgrades very early. in the end though each of the factions has access to the same fundamentals, the biggest changes are how those things are slightly different and when you get them and how much they cost. 

 

so my point is that there's no race thats particularly advantaged or disadvantaged vs. TEC than another. just play a race that you find appealing and try to learn the nuances with experience. 

I would say that vasari are disadvantaged against the TEC. Since TEC has such a heavy focus on hull and repair, the phase missiles don't have as large of a bonus against the TEC ships compared to, say, the advent.

I also think that Advent is particularly good against TEC. Since they are so focused on defense, they can take the basically infinite supply of ships that the TEC will throw at them without losing any ships with a good battleball. Maybe I'm missing something, but I've always thought the progression was TEC > Vasari > Advent > TEC, but I have seen no talk of this on the forums.

Well done on the Necromancy, ADtaelessWonder.  1 year, 2 months, 19 minutes, and 59 seconds is probably a new record on the Sins forum.

 

In case you're confused, check definition #2 here:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=necromancy

[SFW], though I make no claims about the rest of the site.

meh, it wasn't exactly a thread necro. he asked his own question and the question happened to have the same general topic of an existing post. thats an appropriate use of the forum in my opinion. 

 

it would only be necro if he was writing a response to someone elses question that was like 6 months old. this is not the case in this instance. 

The thread was, for all intents and purposes, dead.  It is now alive once more.  Therefor, thread necro.  The purpose of the reply is irrelevent.  Seriously, this is over a year old, most of the people who posted in it aren't even active anymore.

 

 

Sry if the thread was a bit neco, nut it was an honest question, and it was easier to get an answer from u guys than scour the forums for a similar thread.

 

Who cares, a good thread necromancy never hurt anyone (its just when you bring other things back from the dead that we have issues...).

 

Anyways, Both transitive and vitamin are correct. While the three races are well balanced, the TEC has one or two researches/abilities that are only really effective versus vasari (phase missile block, quick ship buildrates/repair rates), the advent have on or two against TEC (extreme shields and high firepower with supporting ships), and the Vasari have one really good one against advent (phase missiles). These aren't really significant enough for a player who has spent time to really learn one race to change it just becuase the opponent is playing its counter, but if you are equally good (or bad) with all three, you can gain a small advantage with this.

Well, as an advent player, i HATE vasari with their heavy fighters, their f****** missile turret that disables AM regeneration with entrenchement and their damn assaillants.The egg is soooo annoying too.

On the other hand, TEC are a nice bit of fresh meat, ready to be devoured !