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hi afterdnloading and installing from scratch the sins again and getting the update, played it alot yesterday with no problems, but today i saved a game and when i came back to the game it was totally frozen and crashed,.. wouldnt even exit the game with the ctrl-alt-del keys.. mouse would move but nothing and i mean nothing was clickable.. so i rebooted and tried again, same thing.. think something is messed up in the new patch, never had any crashes at all playing the game since I got it except these now on this new patch. I have a p4 3.60 w 2gig on a 680i mobo, and a nvidia 8800 w 756ram and a audigy 4 sound card
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Reply #26 from Stardock Forums Top
On the corrupted saves; It looks like when a save is loaded, the first thing painted is the wireframe phase jump lanes, then the planets and the rest. It could be something corrupted after the phase lanes and influence graphics get loaded because that is where I see a lot of freezes. Maybe that's 3 types of problems.

I think I'm playing this game too much.

pek
Reply #27 from Sins Forums Top
I am having a similar problem myself. I load a saved game, it completes the loading screen, and enters the game but it freezes after one 'second'. I noticed this b/c a unit on my screen moved for a bit and then I noticed all of my resource had gone up a bit from when I loaded.
My system is as follows:

Vista 64
4GB RAM
Core 2 Duo 2.66GHz(E6750)
XFX Nforce i680 SLI MoBo
BFG nVidia 8800 GTS
RAID 0 - 2 x 250 GB
CursorFX - Customize your Windows cursor
Reply #28 from Sins Forums Top
So I just tested my theory that the empire window is somehow causing these crashes. I went back to limiting my empire window and lo and behold I had my quickest crash ever. The crash did happen while I was zooming so I think that that is part of the problem but I think that it is something in the code for the empire window that isn't compatible with the zooming code.
Reply #29 from Sins Forums Top
2. During a game, it freezes and ctd's after about 90 seconds(reminds me of the gc2 beta), but save games aren't corrupted and you can continue on from the last save. Looks like I'll have to turn autosave back on.

Same here. Seems to happen when alot of stuff is going on and I am zooming in to see the action. Freezes but no ctd after 90 seconds -last forever. I have to reboot computer. No minidump was made. Save game reloads fine and I can keep playing.

BTY AI capital ships do not upgrade themselves via pay option.
Cap ships texture looks very dark.

P4 2.8, ATI 9800XT, 1 gig RAM, os XP

default game settings.
Reply #30 from Sins Forums Top
I've only had one freeze so far. It occured when I went to my 'Ctrl-1' fleet. As soon as I saw my fleet in battle, the screen froze. I was pretty closely zoomed in as I jumped over to my fleet. I had a very hard time shutting down the game without having to reboot...but Task Manager eventually was able to close the game...hint: close processes AND applications.
Reply #31 from Sins Forums Top
Ok, I think I may have localized the bug. It seems to have something to do with the "don't show enemy planets" option for the empire window. Anytime I have this option selected the game crashes, if I don't have it selected the game doesn't crash and runs extremely well. I don't have a clue how this one tiny option could cause a crash but that's what my testing has shown. Anyone else tried changing their empire window configurations to see if it affects the crash? If not, could someone else try this to see if this is in fact the case or if I'm just crazy.
Reply #32 from Sins Forums Top
Nice work Daishzen, trying to reproduce it now!
Reply #33 from Sins Forums Top
No problem, hope it helps, I want to be able to change my empire window again.
Reply #34 from Sins Forums Top
Has any progress been made on the lockup-on-save-load issue? Or is there anything we the players can do to help the devs with it?

Please, any and all information would be appreciated.

-Just had to press the power button
Reply #35 from Sins Forums Top
Just a note on the empire window crash, it seems to only happen when I am engaged in combat at an enemy world and something massively changes the number of ships present in the system (i.e. AI fleeing, AI getting routed). I only mention those two because it only seems to happen when there is a change in enemy ship presence.
Reply #36 from Stardock Forums Top
That looks like what I see. Cowardly enemy fleeing my righteous wrath and when I zoom to watch the carnage it freezes. The empire window doesn't seem to have an affect for me,. Altho I did have a freeze-on-load save game just now. Game saved about 5 min in.

pek
Reply #37 from Stardock Forums Top
still getting corrupted save games and when i try to load any saved game it loads in frozen, not able to move or click anything, i hear background noises and have mouse but it cant click anything. ctrl-alt-del task manager usually wont work to shut down the game.have to do a manual shutdown.
Reply #38 from Sins Forums Top
Hey guys, we've tracked down and fixed the save game problem, but we haven't had any luck with the empire tree one.

The best I can tell from what has been posted so far is that it probably has to do with one or more of the following.

a) zooming
b) empire tree
c) enemy planets

If anybody has a sure-fire method of reproducing this crash... please post it!

Thanks alot
Reply #39 from Sins Forums Top
yes the fog of war also makes my pc lagg the first time in a game i see it and this is strange cos my system is top notch
Reply #40 from Sins Forums Top
Psugar, I get the crash during large combat actions over planets that are not mine when I zoom in to watch or issue specific commands and I have yet to reproduce it when I have the empire window in default mode.
Reply #41 from Sins Forums Top
Hey guys, we've tracked down and fixed the save game problem


Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Can you say "hotfix!"?
Reply #42 from Sins Forums Top
no, they cant
Reply #43 from Sins Forums Top
Daishzen, do you have a save game of a game that crashed right before it bombed?
Reply #44 from Sins Forums Top
id like to know when a hot fix will be out
Reply #45 from Sins Forums Top
I have had this type of crash without a save game coming in to play. In fact, after I've powered down my computer and started SIN back up loaded up the most recent save and everything chugs along just fine.
Reply #46 from Sins Forums Top
id like to know when a hot fix will be out


ROFL!
Reply #47 from Sins Forums Top
what i do lol
Reply #48 from Sins Forums Top
Psugar, I think I do, I'm not at my sins comp right now, where should I email it?
Reply #49 from Sins Forums Top
support@ironcladgames.com... thanks!
Reply #50 from Sins Forums Top
thanks i'll get that to you