Po...I don't need to state anything 'for Brad'....he's quite able to do that himself, eloquently, too...

Perhaps an alternative was to leave the thread open but gag anyone who engaged in personal attack.  You'd probably find much the same result, terminated communication.

Should we as admins/mods both accept being insulted/disparaged whilst doing our best to avoid giving others the opportunity to publicly self-destruct..... all in the same thread?

It seems like we are damned either way....

Admins/mods are obliged NOT to have 'bad days' as an excuse for conduct.....so it is only fair that the general community does not have that as an 'excuse' either.

Okay.

https://forums.wincustomize.com/?forumid=144&aid=145947&p=3#1154568 -Post 108



I was wrong. He never said that he would never lock a thread again.

I was wrong. I apologize. So, I will just say this.

To those who just want to disturb shit and hurl insults and flame.....

You are the ones who give them an excuse to close the thread. When the thread is closed, any chance of getting to a specific point if it has yet to be reached is over. You either want changes, answers, or solutions, or you just want to stir things up. If it's the latter, you're screwing things up for everyone else.

To everyone else..if they flame, hurl attacks, etc..hit the 'Report This Reply' button and let the mods handle it so the thread doesn't get shut down. If we don't, we lose.

I'm sorry for the misquote.

When I have a bad day I totally go off the deep end and insult anyone who gets in my way, then I pour boiling oil all over them then I take my zippo and tazer gun (for good measure).. and...then I wake up and realize I didn't go that route in the first place because Zubaz got to me in time.     

Hell, everyone flies of the handle sometime's, I'd gladly shake Boss's hand right now and say, It's all good my man.    Wasn't the first time I was in the wrong place at the wrong time and needless to say it wont be the last.

I'm a lover not a fighter.. Peace on earth and good will to all men. (..and i truly mean that.)

Jafo, sorry for pushing you on an issue I was wrong on...and to everyone else. You make valid points, as usual. I see things as wishy washy and more as a matter of what is convenient for whomever at the time happening here. Maybe I am too black and white in my thinking,,,and expecting all or nothing is unrealistic. Maybe wanting some answers is to.

I go back and look at the thread link in post #27 for the first time in a while and see how a lot of stuff goes unanswered or addressed. The flamers get responses. The ones who just want to disturb things do, but a lot of truly legitimate questions are left alone. A lot. I see I should have known then I was just wasting my energy. I'm a slow learner, I guess, which is why I still haven't made a wb.

I'm done. I give up. I'm just gonna go about my own business quietly and won't put you or anyone else through my shit again.

Po'

NP.

Thanks, Po for saving me the trouble of finding the reference...

on that note. maybe an honorarium for those members who go above and beyond the typical user in helping police the librarys...sort of a kudo for those non admins who dedicate their time to helping keep WC rip free...a thanks from the community for thier efforts... like "Rip Stopper" or something...


just a thought...

Po' you make it sound like wearing your heart on your sleeve and speaking your mind is a bad thing, don't ever stop - heck I wish I could be half as brave.

Human nature dictates that people will not agree on every subject and that arguments & debates will unfortunately happen - you can't stop that and you probably wouldn't want to even if you could or things like creativity, spark, imagination & free will would bite the dust.

I would just hope that at the end of the day, (week, month, etc.) that we all shake hands with the person we disagree with and appreciate that differences will always exist between people because we're all individuals. We're entitled to our ideas & opinions and we should hold strong those viewpoints that we think are important but also accept that others are entitled to the same thing.

On the lighter side.. that sorta sounds like a remedy for gas   

i doubt it would work for me...

LOL

hehe ok i hadent thought of that ....  


but like a custom honorarium or avatar for those who go above and beyond in reporting rips would be a nice thought....

HG I like your idea, I would support it,
I've reported a couple of wb skin rips in the past, acknowledgement for the effort would be a good thing and sends a message to the users of the site that it's user base also takes a hand in preventing rips.



On a side note V & Jack, I can't help but think that we had this discussion on tooting in another forum, something about Tootie & the Blowfish, "Hold my hand!" .... RIP! (or was it pull my finger)   

All I have left to say is I felt locking the thread without warning was wrong. Had there been a warning that if the personal attacks continued it would be locked then I could understand it. I had wanted to reply to Vstyler when he had stated :
Reply 37
Vstyler
I think both sides should relax, seems like the mods are doing the best they can given what they have to work with and perhaps everyone shouldnt get in such a tizzy over rips, I can understand if it affecting you financially, in most , if not all cases it is not. Fairyy, if WC doesn't seem that concerned with it, then why kill yourself over it.?

All I had wanted to say was I do not feel reporting Rips " Killing " myself at all.
Why do I report them ? Because I should. Its everyone's responsibility to report when they see someone using the work of others. When someone spends hour upon hour making a wall then 2 days rendering it and others just help themselves - its wrong.
Its no different if I were surfing about and ran into one of your windowblinds at another site and it had someone else's name attached to it. I'm sure you'd want me to make it known that it was a rip.
I'm not sure why the other thread took such a bad turn..but there is an undercurrent of resentment that should be addressed...not stifled.

Po' you said nothing wrong and do not ' give up ' many people do want to hear what you have to say ..

That was one point I was trying to make. While I agree 100% that rips should be reported privately so as not to accuse an innocent person...but if all the talk of RIPS is done behind the scenes then more users are apt to try and slip rips by thinking that no one is really watching or caring.

swear? dad?

the only point i see today is we lost a good guy
he help me in many cases and others too
i'm sad we can't talk about things like that without make wrong comments and weird attack to others people.
I understand Boss (i don't said i agree with the way he toke to tell this) on rip problems. As i said many time we need to be more kind in our comments.
This is a fun place, i hope it stay like that more many time; but please there are rules keep them in head. Rip is a part of the mater only a part, Frustration of certain members is i guess the other. I don't comment often this kind of tread cause i agree with the two part WC team and Skinners. Yes guys RIP should be report but take the right way. And keep respect in head. I'm pretty tired to read misunderstanding, insulting and not respectful comments.
Skinners skin
Downloaders download
Moderator moderate
that's all
please be more nice and respectful (of people and of their work)

I don't know if this fits the thread but its the first few minutes I have had lateley to catch up on things around here.

The new term for stealing(ripping)intellectual material is "parallel development".

You can't control the world of today. You are forced to only care about yourself or you will be stung in the ass.

Doesn't it say somewhere in the bible that "sociopaths will inherit the earth" or something?   

Neo'Smedley,

I have PM'd you, but am repeating it here in case you don't get the PM, see it, or know how to open it.

Unless you are someone here that I consider a friend (which I would understand, because some of the people I consider friends are sick and twisted like me), I would appreciate you losing the icon you are using. It's my own personal design and has been used by me here and on other sites for a few years.

Po'

too late to edit...

I did want to make a point.

The only ones who dislike the drama are the moderators (for obvious reasons). The rest of us love it.

That's why threads get locked.

Neo' Smedley

From the Terms of service, Section 3:

A new nick might be in order to avoid any confusion

Also a new Avatar to go with the new nick. 

Neo' Smedley,

I don't know. Maybe you really are only 16 and that would explain your maturity and why you are hiding. But you have logged on twice since I PM'd you, emailed you, and posted my request in the forum for you to lose the avatar. I thought since you had the fortitude to go that far, you would have responded by now. So, this is the last PM and post I will make and the mods or admins can deal with it from here or not, since it has been pointed out you are in violation of policy. Sorry that your post did not generate the response you were looking for. I may lose my cool once in a while, but I gave up speaking 'moron' years ago.

Jafo is awaiting an appropriate response ....

I locked it.

The policy is not that we never lock threads but that we don't lock threads in order to stifle discussion.

In this case of the whining about moderation, the policy was stated and there is nothing more to discuss. 

The issue 4 months ago is that I don't like seeing threads locked in which people are trying to hash things out.

By contrast, seeing people bitch that moderation isn't perfect or whatever isn't hashings things out, it's just pointless whining.

At that point that thread was like religion discussion, much personal affronts and nobody will change minds at the end of argument.

I was glad to see it locked.

Po' Smedley, I'm glad you admitted you made a mistake, not everyone will do it.