I have to say that this is a hot button for me as well. I use Multiplicity for my home office between work and my home computer, but can't do anything about the Mac other than remote control. I'd love to see this even in beta format.

Have any of you tried Synergy? http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/

It is the same idea as Multiplicity. It isn't as nice as Multiplicity, it can't drag/drop files and I think it only supports controlling 2 computers in addition to the host computer. It does support clipboard sharing, however, and works on OS X and Windows.

It even continues to function on Vista x64 after you reboot! https://forums.stardock.com/?aid=142174#1246278

Personally, I'd recommend using Synergy until Multiplicity works on OS X and until they get the Vista x64 problems worked out. Then buy Multiplicity since, despite it's problems, is quite cool.

Since v1.2 was released on may 29th, is the current development target another windows update, or the mac version?

I have participated in these threads before without any success but I want the OS X version so badly that I'm going to post again. I purchased the Pro version of Multiplicity 6/13/05 and I am still waiting for OS X support. I know this is not a huge market versus the people that need it to work on Vista but Mac people tend to be fiercely loyal to companies that support their favorite OS and I hope that Stardock puts some resources behind the OS X client to earn some of that loyalty.

It's been two months since I checked in. Anymore updates?

On August 29, 2006 an installer was being worked on. A month later the installer was being "tweaked". Obviously Mac support is of no priority. If there end up being bugs, what level of support could we expect?

Stardock may have been wiser to not advertise an OS X version at all until it was ready to ship, because now many customers have little confidence.

I'm curious as well about the OSX version. I've recently acquired a Mac Mini to allow testing of my websites on the Mac system. It'd be nice to get rid of the extra set of mouse and keyboard on my desk.

And update on plans for OSX and Linux version would be nice.

Let me first say that I am sorry for what is going to sound mean, but I have now owned this software for more then 2 1/2 years. Since my first purchase it was stated that a MacOS version was 'soon to be released' Back then I used several PCs as well as a Mac. I have since gotten rid of the other PCs and only own a WinXP and IntelMac.

Last year there was a version that was only being tweaked because the software or the mac locked up when shutting down. I am not sure which that was. But either can be easily ignored by users who really need this functionality. Sadly at this point I have had to use a Free product in place of software I paid 70 dollars for. At this point I would ask that you either release a beta or if you do not plan on really giving this support, say so and remove it from your website.

My greatest fear right now is that you are going to release it and there be a problem that we will have to wait another two years to have fixed.

A few months ago we were told to blame this issue on Win Vista, but that is not an acceptable answer. Vista has not been around since early 2006 when this was originally asked. At this point I personally find no excuse or explanation acceptable. I have bought many things at Stardock and this is the only product I have felt I was ripped off on.

One last note, it has not been mentioned yet, but will this be a universal app or will we have to wait on that also?

I've been a long time Multiplicity Pro user (May '05) and have become very reliant on it both at home and at work. It's a fantastic program but it seems to be poorly supported. I'm still having sporadic connectivity issues which the latest beta build addresses a little bit. Beta and released builds are far and few between (over 2 years and we're only on 1.2x with no new features and still buggy connectivity). As a Windows user, I feel somewhat disappointment in the lack of support for this product. I can only imagine how frustrating it has been for Mac users who have been waiting since the product was announced.

I'm thinking about switching my laptop over to a MacBook Pro and I was almost certain there was an OS/X version of MP, since it's been over 2 years since I first bought it. Boy was I surprised!

PLEASE release a beta OS/X client soon...or let us know a realistic timeframe when a production version will be ready.

Weshsu: What features are you looking for?

We have added new features to MP since 1.0 and in particular the recent MP 1.21 betas introduce a number of new features including the display sharing function, the tooltip notifications of connection / disconnect and a few other changes.

Many people at Stardock use Multiplicity every day without problems.  If you are having problems then please let us know so we can assist.  Problems are not normal.

Regarding the OSX client, I also find the delays to this frustrating.  It is a combination of factors that have caused the delays, both technical and non technical.

On PPC based macs it works well, but on the newer intel ones there is a problem caused by the emulator.  This is going to be resolved by switching the app to be a universal app but it has to wait until time is freed up.  I am hopeful development time can be found in the next couple of months for this.

I don't suppose you could release that beta with PPC support on SDC?
Has there been considered Linux support? (I guess that isn't that easy as there's so many distros, but support for some/one of the larger ones? Ubuntu?)

Linux and Mac support would truly make MP complete. And I'd be more than happy to settle for just mouse and keyboard control. Clipboard sharing is a plus, but no must in my book.

I retract my statement, as I stand corrected.

My perception of MP not being a well supported product stems from the fact that there are features that are either not working well or are not implemented which have annoyed me, such as extended mouse behavior, like the tilt wheel on my Microsoft mouse. Sometimes the third/fourth buttons don't work. Part of the problem is people's perception. The software industry seems to release a new major version with plenty of new features every year and relative to this perception, Multiplicity seems rather stagnant.

I would love drag and drop copying of files. The cut/paste is nice when it works (which is most of the time, but the times it doesn't...it's frustrating). I've had copy/paste issues with files as well as the clipboard (moreso the clipboard). If I copy files (Ctrl-C) on one machine, then cross to the second machine, but never paste, I have to wait while the files get copied to the second machine's temp folder.

And since you asked, it would be great if you could drag windows across to other machines. I know that is getting away from its primary purpose, but when you get so used to accessing multiple machines across multiple monitors, it would be an extremely handy feature.

But, my biggest issue is connectivity. I posted on this in a different thread, and don't want to go into it in this thread since it's really off topic. But, the only solution provided was to try the latest beta (and it helped, but hasn't solved the issue). One feature I would really like is to let me choose which network adapter (or subnet) the server and client uses. I run Hamachi on all of my machines and MP has a hard time figuring out how to connect (and it usually ends up that they don't connect). MP always seems to bind to the Hamachi connection and there's no way to change that. I end up having to turn off MP on my client to get a pretty stable connection.



As we all are...

Thank you for the prompt response. I love MP and it is an essential tool that I rely on on a daily basis both at home and at work. For the most part, it works very well, but that is a double edged sword, because the times that it doesn't can really be extra frustrating. I can't imagine computing without it. I just wish it had the user base like WindowBlinds so that development on MP will get the priority it deserves. How many major versions has WindowBlinds gone through since Multiplicity was released?

I know I'm taking this portion out of all the others but I have to say that this function would piss the hell out of me.

I have Excel open on PC1. I drag it to PC2.  Now I have to wait for Excel to open to let go of my window?  Ugh.  No thanks.  What happens when I try to drag a window that's not supported on the other PC (I don't have Excel installed)?  What happens when OSX and Linux support is there and they don't support the notepad I just tried to move?

Agreed . . I use IP address for this and it works most of the time.  It's be great to be able to pick an adapter on a PC instead.

I don't see the disconnections you are seeing or the copy/paste issues.  From my point of view MP doesn't need regular updates because it does what it does so well.  When I do lose a connection, the new dialog is awesome.  And the reconnection is so much faster (the connection on the secondary when it boots is SOOO much faster.  I used to use the laptop keyboard to login because MP took too long).

I have a PPC Mac too.  I think, like XP, that there is a larger existing market there than with Intel Macs. (We are the ones that bought MP BEFORE there were Intel Macs ) 

Think more like X Windows or other utilities which simply tell PC2 to draw what would have been drawn on PC1. So, the app is always running on PC1, but you just see it on PC2. A year or 2 ago, I tried a program that did this for me, but it didn't play well with MP, which is why I'd love if MP could do it as well.

Still dreaming of Multiplicity Mac OSX support for Christmas.

Trust me no one is forgetting this matter.

I bought MP when it was first released and have therefore been waiting a long time for the Mac version. IMO, the Mac version will NOT happen. It's vaporware! Forget it!

I have been using a program called Synergy (http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/). It works. It's free. IT'S AVAILABLE NOW!!

Ron Polak: The OSX secondary support will come in the future, but testing it takes time and it is much lower priority than features which benefit all our customers.

A number of people have been testing the OSX version of MP for some time but we need to resolve a problem with the intel macs before we can release a public beta.  If you have a PPC based mac then please contact support@stardock.com about possibility joining the beta test team.

I have removed your other posts elsewhere as they look like advertising which is not permitted on these forums.

 

Neil,

Wow! What a quick response. I must have hit a nerve. Tell me; was it the term "vaporware" or the mention of a competing product that prompted your rapid reply?

Describing my other posts as advertising is a bit rich considering the software I mentioned (Synergy) is open source and therefore free. You may claim that my posts breach your forum's no advertising rules but at least I'm not taking money from people for software with advertised features that do not exist!

Wow Ron, just... wow.

The developer himself just took time out to inform your whining post of the current situation. Your response is to taunt and mock? That is amazingly rude.

You also posted for an opensource, badly developed software pack as an argument. Also what features are being advertised? It says coming soon. As in Mac support isn't there yet. Argue Synergy all you want. I have used it in a few places and it is crap. Here I tell Stardock that Multi had an issue with a few of my programs and in the next patch it works.

Regardless what the commercials say 7% of the pop of the States use a Mac. 13% of the industry does and more than 40% of education institutions have Macs (because Apple gave them to them).

Stardock makes Windows features, programs etc... what percentage do you think of them have Macs? They have priorities and while this update is one they have more that needs to be done. Know how I know that? Because that is what he just said.

Wait patiently like the rest of us.

My iMac G4 and I are eagerly awaiting this, since Synergy goes down and has more issues than I would like.

I don't have any plans to buy this software until the OS X version is released. (I would love to beta test since my iMac is PPC)

Like Neil said if you would like the beta build please contact us at support.

Done

Your "stats" mean nothing. This product is designed specifically to target users with multiple machines. THAT'S the market - not the whole goddam country! And of that market a high percentage WOULD have multiple OSes. Stardock know this because they stated that an OS X client is in development from the get go?

And now for some facts:
June 22 2005, Neil Banfield said:
"The OS X version is still in development and should be in the 1.1 release"

June 29, 2005, Brad Wardell said:
"Sometime this Summer. "

September 22, 2005, Frogboy said:
"We're beta testing it internally. "

The most recent of these statements was made OVER TWO YEARS AGO!

If you're happy to be quiet and more patient and not question what's going on, fine, but don't expect me, or anyone else for that matter, to accept this crap just "Because that is what he said".

BTW, Synergy has always worked fine for me. There are a couple of Mac Synergy clients though. The one I use is SynergyKM.

My apologies. I picked a fight and I didn't mean to. I hate people who do that and I became one of them.

I empathize with Neil since he does multiple projects at the same time. I did not enjoy him getting ragged on. I am certain SD won't let us down. I have a Mac myself and I look forward to the update.