strange damage values

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I attacked a Drengin Defender A:(0,0,0) D:(1,0,0) with a A:(1-0-0) D:(0-0-0) cargo hull interceptor. The Defender doesn't have any weapons, so it's a won battle, but I get some weird damage values in the combat viewer:

0
5
1
1
1
1
0
5

Anyone know what's going on, and why it's displaying the occaisional 5? Anyone else see this? Again, this is from a ship with 1-0-0 attack.

This behavior occurs consistently with these ships, and a 5 is always preceeded by a 0, it seems.
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Reply #1 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I'm not sure, but I think there's some sort of critical shot chance that is applied if rolled. I've seen some figures similar to that in my games.
Reply #2 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
is this that "luck" factor?
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Reply #3 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
You think thats odd???!?!?!

The other day I had a 36 shield ship go up against a Beam 5 ship and was getting hammered for 5 every few shots. Something is a bit fubar'ed there mate.

Imagine my surprise when my battleship barely survived the encounter with a fracking fighter.

-J
Reply #4 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Two Ships both with low Attack and very high Defence would battle in a neverending loop, because no ship would be able do penetrate the others defence. I think this "lucky" hit was implemented to prevent such a situation (and is also the reason why Defence systems take more room than Offence systems).
Reply #5 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Eh, my hunch is that this has nothing to do with luck or with a "critical shot," since I've never seen a hit above the attack value in battles where each side has a non-zero attack. I think this has more to do with how they're displaying the damage... something's going on, because with 1-0-0 attack against 1-0-0 defense I should be hitting for 0 damage 75% of the time and hitting for 1 25% of the time, and I never see a 3-1 ratio of 0's to 1's when I replay this fight. The 0 damage values are, I think, getting 'compacted' for display in some way that results, perhaps buggily, as the occaisional report of 5 damage.

Anyone know specifically?

Stardock?
Reply #6 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Right now, from any 'official' sources, there is no such thing as a critical hit. The whole 0-max damage system pretty much replicated the miss, scrape, direct hit, critical (max), so there's no reason it should suddenly do 5 times it's maximum damage. I would definitely classify this as a bug unless a dev comes in here and start explaining it. But frankly, I don't see why this would be needed.

IMO, they need to do some further explaination on the damage system, and allow us some way to mod how it is calculated. Although I suppose modding that will be far off... since doing formulas is a little harder than just reading in a tag.
Reply #7 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
What really irritates me is when this happens:
Me: Stingers + shields
Him: doom ray + no defense

Me vs him: 0
Me vs him: 0
Me vs him: 0
Him vs me: 10 - fighter dead
Me vs him: 0
Me vs him: 0
Me vs him: 0
Him vs me: 10 - fighter dead
Me vs him: 0
Me vs him: 0
Me vs him: 0
Him vs me: 10 - fighter dead - Fleet destroyed - defeat

I realize OCCASIONALLY I'll miss completely and that OCCASIONALLY they'll get in a full-on hit. And, of course, we all know "The AI doesn't cheat (TM)". When the above battle happens repeatedly, I begin to wonder how random the random "roll" really is.



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