watertown1978

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as of 07 i think all US automakers workers cost about 140k a year per worker with the pay/benifits and all that jazz. Where as the Japansese US autoworkers cost about 94K per worker a year...and then we wonder WHY the cars cost so much from Checy ect ect and the Jap cars are cheaper...even when its the US workers making the cars. Boy you mean a politican actually sees the light...hell just froze. To bad alot of have been saying this for awhile now....

Reply to Beating a Dead Horse? in Politics PolMach Forums

[quote who="KarmaGirl" reply="12" id="1942352"] So yeah Companies most times dont have that option to stand up to the unions unless they are ready for the reprocusions of such things and those things are usually not a good name for your company.... even if what is said is not totally factual We had that happen not that long ago with the Detroit News and Free Press. They ended up with all non-Union workers in the end. To this day, there are still people boycotting the pap

Reply to Should We Let the "Big Three" Fail? in Politics PolMach Forums

[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="17" id="1942216"] Both the unions and the auto companies should have put more money into fixing their businesses rather than buying politicians. Shoulda, woulda, coulda.....and the dog just keeps chasing its tail at taxpayers expense. [/quote] and most are to stupid to learn that it will be a failed cause if no changes are made....

Reply to A Prescription for the Economy in Politics PolMach Forums

[quote who="EL-DUDERINO" reply="23" id="1941928"] Unemployment insurance a hand out? Skilled employees have no choice is what you're saying--they should take the first minimum wage available. You want to put us right back in the position of millions during the Depression. UI is intended to bridge the gap between jobs. It isn't intended as a long term solution. Like I said earlier this is a "hand up" as long as the person receiving UI is activly seeking another job as wa

Reply to Beating a Dead Horse? in Politics PolMach Forums

[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="9" id="1942104"] most of these workers would get their jobs back, albeit possibly not the same money they got paid previously. That is really the key. We already have a bailout program for the big 3. It is called Chapter 11. But when a company files Chapter 11, all its contracts become null and void and have to be renogiated. This is not a bail out of the Big 3, but of the UAW. They cringe at the thought of losing their contr

Reply to Beating a Dead Horse? in Politics PolMach Forums

[quote who="KarmaGirl" reply="7" id="1942046"] Maybe that should be the first lesson learned upon reorganization - spread out. Well, I'm not sure that works out well. Michigan is pretty self sufficient with metal if it needs to be. There is still an awful lot of iron ore that travels up and down the great lakes to supply iron works. That's how the big three took root here, after-all No it's not all the Unions fault, as I just pointed out, but the

Reply to Beating a Dead Horse? in Politics PolMach Forums

[quote who="Daiwa" reply="1" id="1941516"]It was an accident of Great Lakes anatomy that all three ended up in Detroit, but concentrating such a big industry in one location has always left Michigan in a bind. Granholm & her predecessors have done little if anything to diversify & lessen their dependence on the big 3, except for a few come-hither commercials. The sad and hard truth is that we cannot continue to reward failure. They should be allowed to go Chapte

Reply to Obama is a gift to the Republicans in Politics PolMach Forums

[quote who="Daiwa" reply="7" id="1939280"]Looks like the Wal-Mart bubble is the next one. It's a good time to own a little of it. If anything is going to save our butts, it's Wal-Mart.[/quote] the funny thing is all the hate there is when a new walmart store is opening....all the protest.... and the Gov trying to hurt them... look at who is standing high on the mountain and doing well when most companies are taking a poo...yep the evil walmart

Reply to Should We Let the "Big Three" Fail? in Politics PolMach Forums

I hope he stand and comes up with a good use of the money. I just wished that they would have said a big F U to the bonuses to those guys too

Reply to Dupes are Duped in Politics PolMach Forums

[quote quoting="post"] Joeuser has had a lot of people posting very unkind (and that is being kind) things about Sarah Palin. It seems that every time they come up with something to bolster their hate (bias) of her, someone else has to come up with the truth. MOre often than not the perpetrator will not believe it, and deny it (they still deny that Joe the Plumber is named Joe and is a Plumber). Adding to the long list of "I hate her so I will believe anythi

Reply to A Prescription for the Economy in Politics PolMach Forums

Im a perfect example. I lost my job due to the flooding here and was laied off. What did I do? after i got the permanate lay off notice i was on the phone and withen a week or 2 I was working full time. Granted it was not a proud job, but it got me off the UI that i was to get...to be honest i am thankful that i have not used more than 3 weeks of UI because I am still a temp, and I may get layed off yet again, so Ill have it now that there are litterally no jobs in my area.

Reply to The Obama Transition So Far in Politics PolMach Forums

[quote who="Nitro Cruiser" reply="4" id="1937819"]Doc I think your wasting your breath on the youth. They think US rights apply to the world and just don't realize how fortunate they really are (and how easily it can be taken away).[/quote] I say people that dont cherish the rights we have all should go live in china.... then they get to see first hand how lucky they were here

Reply to Should We Let the "Big Three" Fail? in Politics PolMach Forums

[quote who="CariElf" reply="23" id="1937794"]I thought that the Japanese government subsidizes the auto industry, and that's why they can make less expensive cars? As a native Michigander, I'm worried about what the ripple effects will be if any of the Big 3 have to shut down, but I don't think that propping them up is going to help for long.[/quote] I think they might have I forgot the link to the story but it was recently where i read that the Japs bailed o

Reply to Should We Let the "Big Three" Fail? in Politics PolMach Forums

[quote who="EL-DUDERINO" reply="16" id="1937678"] Most of us wouldn't know what the middle class was without the dedication of unions. I don't think anyone here is denying the importance that unions had to creating decent working environments and livable wages in this country. The problem is that some unions today are actually killing businesses and how exactly does that help the employees? If GM goes out of business is that going to help the workers? No, but is th

Reply to Should We Let the "Big Three" Fail? in Politics PolMach Forums

[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="15" id="1937655"]So, it's screw the 2 million plus spinoff jobs just to kill UAW, eh? Most of us wouldn't know what the middle class was without the dedication of unions.[/quote] Pftttt yeah I wouldnt mind if the unions actually cared besides lining pockets. Why cant auto maker unions do what the airline unions do? if the company is in trouble...hey lets cut back a bit so we all can keep the jobs, I mean after all... who needs a woody a

Reply to Should We Let the "Big Three" Fail? in Politics PolMach Forums

someone posted this on another fourm and ill share its really eye opening: Labor cost per hour, wages and benefits for hourly workers, 2006. Ford: $70.51 ($141,020 per year) GM: $73.26 ($146,520 per year) Chrysler: $75.86 ($151,720 per year) Toyota, Honda, Nissan (in U.S.): $48.00 ($96,000 per year) According to AAUP and IES, the average annual compensation for a college professor in 2006 was $92,973 (average salary nationally of

Reply to Should We Let the "Big Three" Fail? in Politics PolMach Forums

[quote who="CharlesCS" reply="9" id="1937313"] Americans make terrible cars. Seriously cacto, why the need to insult something American when most here are agreeing with you and happen to be Americans? Your comment could have gone without the need to say we suck at making cars. Then you wonder why some here come down hard on you when in a debate.[/quote] I think US cars are good. I have a chevy mali and happy with it... the problem is that parts cost alot. I al

Reply to Should We Let the "Big Three" Fail? in Politics PolMach Forums

[quote who="cactoblasta" reply="6" id="1937157"]I say they should let them close. Americans make terrible cars. Only Ford has halfway decent models, and even then that's mostly from their European outfits. Let them go and then everyone can enjoy the benefits of good, reliable Asian and Euro cars.[/quote] The problem is not that the auto makers CANT make good cars.... Look at the SUVs. They lived off those cars for god knows how long. So it IS possible for the

Reply to Should We Let the "Big Three" Fail? in Politics PolMach Forums

[quote who="kryo" reply="4" id="1936857"]Unions have actually caused jobs to be lost in this area. A nearby plant was having trouble, and made an offer to the workers: if you guys take a cut, we'll take a cut, and we can muddle on through the downturn together. The union outright refused, and as a result the company started shipping the equipment to Mexico while the workers were still picketing, so that they could afford to stay in business.[/quote] See i have been on b

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Reply to Should We Let the "Big Three" Fail? in Politics PolMach Forums

I say get rid of the union for they helped alot to drive up costs of making the autos to the point that for the car is costed to much

Reply to The American Dream in Politics PolMach Forums

You know what is funny we tried to get into some housing based on income long time ago ( when our 2 kids were first diagnosed disabled and such ) and they told me flat out that there was not enough funding and that there was a waiting list a mile long. They then went on and told me that if I knew of any minorities at my place of work that needed help to give them thier number and they would be happy to help... I was like wth! Anyways I have to disagree with the statemen

Reply to Post 1.03 UI problem:Strafing in Technical Sins Forums

I find that if i start on a star that is on the edge of a group of 5 this seems to be true. I find it really anoying and your not the only one with this issue. I just restart game till I get in a system that is not on the far edge