[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="13" id="1954700"]STHU: do you make 250k a year? if not then STHU because your not the one that has to pay it "And the same could be said to the rich: 'do you make less than 20k a year? If not then STHU because you're not the one that has to struggle to survive'." Thanksgiving for Maudlin! [/quote] Ahhh alot of the rich people start out like me or you. Making shit pay. Unless they
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[quote who="taltamir" reply="2" id="1954496"] Quoting watertown1978, reply 24see this is why ill never along with alot of Conservatives will never cross the and huge and kiss Dems... National heathcare...look to the north and see how well it can work. I know how we can lower the cost though of drugs and Healthcare. How about we put an end to everyone sueing them your all good then!! i just did, the earliest you can get a bypass surgury in canada is after
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[quote who="TheBigOne" reply="6" id="1954419"]Isn't it more fault of GM that they let have UAW such a big and negative impact? I mean saying that its fault of a union or even unions in general is a bit of a weak argument if you look at Volkswagen, Mercedes, BMW or even Renault, Citroen and Peugeot. Most of their workers are in unions and there are even works councils. (speaking about "socialist" europe here where corporations also have to pay for pensions and health care and all th
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Sod... One way is to first have decent traspariency on the budget and easy for someone with half a brain to read. Yes you can see the budget but most of it has clutter of garbage and is also hard to understand with all the "in between" stuff. It would be intresting how much money is waisted for a specail hammer and stuff like that
[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="18" id="1953965"]Volume has always been the aim--I suppose since the old white sales of Woolworth and Macy's--to reduce prices so that in the end you make more by thinking smarter and working harder. Model Ts, too, showed this in order to produce for the masses, not to mention the move to raise wages to make products more affordable. That's also the theme behind progressive taxes: indeed, spread the wealth to make more products available for the little g
To be honest Gov has shown any ability recently to actually spend money wisely. I rather have the induvidual decide how to spend it, heck even probually give some to charity. This whole "because they can afford it" BS is getting old and that is usually the only counter people that support more taxes on the wealthy can come up with.
[quote who="Draginol" reply="13" id="1954034"]They should just file for bankruptcy. Let people who know what they're doing run them. And I live in the Detroit area. [/quote] thats what needs to happen. As much as i feel for anyone loosing a job, if they really want to work they will go back. Heck I would move if i was promised a job there lol
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your kidding right? Its not bashing but is a fact. everything in here is true. Have your worked a union job? You see a need to have one person put the screw in and another one just to run the screw gun? Because that is the way it is. In fact why are people still paid to sit around and do nothing because of more automation? Because by union and laws they cant just lay them off. Trying to compare the 80's to now is just silly. Its a more competitive market. With that its
[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="9" id="1953914"]Your tax rate is based on "taxable income" which means the excess[or profit] above and beyond what the cost is to survive. The reason taxes is progressive is that "survival" doesn't mean the cost of a yacht or the latest fashion so that the more you make the more you spend on frivolity which will cost you another marginal percentage above the base tax. A person making $20,000 probably pays 10% on the amount s
[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="8" id="1953873"] come on have we seen any of this money going anywhere besides the execs pockets? Im not seeing growth unless your calling growth in the unemployment claimsHopefully, Paulson has mandated that this infusion must go to borrowers--consumers and small business--who are relatively financially secure.[/quote] you would think and that was what the inital was supposed to do was free up the credit and like i siad all it did
CC companies still make money even if you dont pay intrest. It cost money to run your CC though the system to charge it
[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="7" id="1953862"]Social Security is matched by the employer, but anything including UI is factored into the value of labor--nothing is charitable.[/quote] This is a very good point.. after all you can only get UI if there is a legit reason for getting fired ( Ive had to collect when I got fired for taking 2 days off in 5 months both for specailist apointments out of town for my kids, didnt have the FMLA so pretty much because it didnt fa
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see this is why ill never along with alot of Conservatives will never cross the and huge and kiss Dems... National heathcare...look to the north and see how well it can work. I know how we can lower the cost though of drugs and Healthcare. How about we put an end to everyone sueing them your all good then!!
[quote who="taltamir" reply="4" id="1953625"]It is something EVERY employer must pay for by law, employees never pay into it directly (aka, you don't see a deduction on your income for it), and should you become unemployed, you claim it directly from the government. So it is an insurence run by the government paid by all employers by law on behalf of employees. Not exactly the "typical" defintion of insurence.[/quote] But in a way its still insurance right?</
[quote who="maudlin27" reply="6" id="1953574"]One argument in favour of the Citi bailout (not saying I support it, since I'm generally opposed to bail outs and don't know the full specifics of the situation), but it could well be that Citi has a sound business that can cope financially, but is vulnerable to people having poor expectations about it's future, with people believing it is in worse shape than it actually is. However the government is aware of Citi's true state, and so buys up pref
[quote who="EL-DUDERINO" reply="7" id="1953781"]I agree completely. I am very fearful for what Obama might do to this country financially, but I guess only time will tell at this point.[/quote] The problem is we wont see the aftermath till BO is nothing but a memory
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[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="21" id="1953785"] LOL. In case you haven't noticed our economy is ALREADY IN THE SHITHOUSE. Goodgrief It was fine until the democrats got control of congress (you know the outfit with control of the purse strings?)[/quote] but but it still will be bushed fualt!
[quote who="pictoratus" reply="16" id="1953654"] isnt that the same idea behind the "Sale" concept employed by every consumer-based business? they cut the price (in effect they cut their profits) .... and you think they do that for fun? their profits, no boubt, increase even though they decrease their margin in each item. .... it is the same idea ... they make it possible for more people to afford their products ... and they make more money even though th
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[quote who="Sodaiho" reply="18" id="1953737"]Its not the people in power that will have to get off their asses, but the common Joe's who need to step up to the plate, re-tool themselves, start a business, work a second or third job, p[ay down their debt, and invest once again in their futures. On the upper echelon, just what has Prez Elect Obama NOT done? He has reached across the aisle, he has brought together, by all accounts, thje best and brightest of our expert
[quote]Hey MM, if you don't mind, I'll go ahead and post a link or 2. I am often amused by people who claim "where are the links" as if you somehow made this up when in reality they either refuse to accept it or just plain suck as googling.[/quote] No worries. It just seemed like you guys were aiming at me and calling me a leftie when yeah... anyways its all good . Another job less day of job hunting again. Things couldnt be better
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[quote who="Sodaiho" reply="15" id="1953705"]No, but I do think its high time we got ourselves out of this shitter and the ONLY way to do that it to get to work, TOGETHER. Half the battle in any war is psychological: get your head on straight, get to putting one foot in front of the other, get to working with guys you don't really like, and you know what? The job gets done. Have some faith in America. Be well.[/quote] working together will n
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[quote who="taltamir" reply="9" id="1953195"]with mrs clinton halfway across the globe... think ol bill will be back to his old tricks (aka, getting fresh with the ladies).[/quote] My question is.... its always bugged me.... hes the dang president for petes sakes.,... he couldnt find anyone hotter than Monica??!
[quote who="taltamir" reply="2" id="1953189"]well... back in the days of serfdom the serfs were all slaves, bound the land, owned by the lord. The lord would "tax" them... he would not provide a service, he would just take from them to give to himself. However the governments of that age called it a tax. Despite me oppsing the stupid remarks that "it is just taxation", I am left wondering, what exactly IS the definition of taxation. wikipedia (I know, bad source...) says: A&nb
LOL YOU GUYS ARE GREAT! YOUR CALLING ME A LEFTIE LOON? HAHAHAHAHHAHHHAAHAHAAAAAAA man you guys couldnt be further from the truth here.... you ask a simple question and you guys just start flaming? It WAS just an inocent question... how about I would BE INTRESTED to read what was said. THATS ALL my god you guys are a touchy bunch remind me NEVER to respond to any of your views if this is the kind of knee jerking reactions you get
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[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="1" id="1953095"]Management does not know how to innovate - because they always had the crutch of the UAW. Sadly they probably still will instead of allowing them to die a natural death. Pelosie and Reid (not Paulson!) will not allow them to die - they will be bailed out like all the other dinosaurs. Problem is, they will still die - they will just take a lot more people with them when they do.[/quote] and make the countr