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Where Are The Moderators?

Where Are The Moderators?

For a site that puts so much emphasis on including permission on works of others that you have used as a basis for your own creations, there are still skins getting on that should never have made it past the moderators if they had checked. I'd like to say "more thoroughly" but obviously "not at all" is what happens far too often.
There is a logon that's been up for 2 weeks now, using a wall from one of the better known wallpaper artists here, that simply says "Thanx for the permission, man" with no permission included. He says he forgot, would put it in, and never did. The person who made the wall says he doesn't even know the guy. Yet, on my last logon using this persons work, (which I have exclusive permission to use), I get a comment from administration making sure to put in the description that permission is included, which of course it is. Yet this other total rip remains on the site with no permission at all.
And the wallpaper library, supposedly the one most heavily moderated, allows a wall using an icon from another artist on this site without the artists permission, the person then adds a thanks and a link to the author's site, but no permission included in the file.
I can see this happening perhaps on things that aren't very obvious, getting missed, but there seem to be a lot of examples of this happening with work that should be known to the moderators and checked for permission. They should be some of the most knowledgeable people here with knowledge about what is getting submitted.
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Reply #26 Top

It's a bonus now? That ought to be printed in the sales brocures. And of the 62 posts pending, maybe 15 or 20 of which were posted this morning, 3 were rips AND one wasn't even a logonxp file...it was an .exe file that could contain WHO KNOWS WHAT kind of harmful files and do major damage to a lot of computers. It just doesn't seem that big of a workload for a few moderators to catch that. Doesn't seem like much of a BONUS to me.

Well feel free to submit your stuff somewhere else such as say deviantART or ThemeXP.  Oh wait, that's right, they don't have moderation at all.  Maybe you should set up your own perfect website in which a dedicated team of super beings magically know which things are rips and which ones aren't.  You could personally go through each and every upload and verify that each one includes permisison..

The moderators here are volunteers. They give up their time to sort through an awful lot of stuff being uploaded. If you think it's easy, start your own site. It's easy to sit back and say what other people should do when you're not doing it.

It is ultimately the responsibility of the copyright holder to protect their own work. No skinning site puts anywhere near as much proactive effort into protecting other people's stuff.  If something slips through moderation, all we need is an email from someone letting us know and we'll take care of it.  Since you feel it requires little effort, feel free to go through new uploads as they're made public to ensure their validity.

Reply #27 Top
Talk about beating a dead horse into the ground. It seems like this has been explained a few times right here on this thread. Don't know how many different ways the same thing can be said. Even the weakest of minds should beable to understand it by now. The mods do the best they can and its up to all the rest of us to point out what was missed. Thats it in a nut shell.
Reply #28 Top
Frogboy, you'd be a great politician with the spin you guys put on everything. A simple complaint about moderation escalates gradually from complaints about how much money is coming out of someones personal pocket, which has nothing to do with an overworked moderator, to me being basically told to get out and start my own site. I'll keep my opinions to myself from now on.
Reply #29 Top
Where Are The Moderators?


Probably deleting my news story.
I believe frogboy once complained that he was the only one writing news.
Have a nice day...
Reply #30 Top
This thread should be called "Disgruntled Master Apprentices"

Reply #31 Top

Master Apprentice Iben ...that 'News story' appears to be a desire on your part to utilise the Frontpage News section to advertise your WB skin commercially.

I'm not too sure that's quite the 'spirit' of a News section.  Since I personally do not pay for Wincustomize.com and its bandwidth I'm inclined to leave Commercial Advertising there for the deliberation of those who do....

Reply #32 Top
This thread should be called "Disgruntled Master Apprentices"


This thread should be locked. Look... the files that I asked nicly to be deleted have been happily removed by WC mods and I'm happy, can't we just move on?
Reply #33 Top
can't we just move on?


I think you forgot one crucial thing here. To thank Boss for bringing this to your attention. Without this thread you want locked, you probably still wouldn't know your work was ripped. My how quickly we forget.
Reply #34 Top
Some people just don't get anything...
Reply #35 Top

where are the moderatores?

We can be found by the pool, sipping drinks and watching the chicks/guys.

Reply #36 Top
We can be found by the pool, sipping drinks and watching the chicks/guys.

Ha, Ha, Ha...
Reply #37 Top
*sigh* yeah, I know, it's a dirty job but someone's gotta do it.......
Reply #38 Top
DangIt Snowy! .......... you told me the pool was closed. dOH!
Reply #39 Top
I think you forgot one crucial thing here. To thank Boss for bringing this to your attention. Without this thread you want locked, you probably still wouldn't know your work was ripped. My how quickly we forget.


No I haven't forgotten the crucial thing here as I have already thanked boss for his finding in PM over at skinartistry before I even came to this thread!!

I would of found the rips anyway because I do every now and then check most skinning sites high and low, even in the logons.
So keep your nose out of this because you don't have a dam clue on where I go, and what I type.

Think! before you say...
Reply #40 Top

DangIt Snowy! .......... you told me the pool was closed.

Doh, Busted... >.<

Reply #41 Top

What pool???

Fuzzy rolls over and goes back to sleep...

Reply #42 Top

Lol.

Well Boss, I'm not sure what spin you're talking about.  I'm saying it straight out: Do not count on us to protect other people's copyright. We don't consider it our job.

How can that be spin?

That we have moderation means that we do put an effort to try to protect other people's work.  But it's just that -- an effort. 

 

Reply #43 Top
Thanks! I'm not a mind reader.
Reply #45 Top
nice segue
Reply #47 Top

Let's bottom line this -- we at least have moderation. And we catch most rips and such that do come up. Sometimes rips get through. It's life. If someone sees their work ripped, it's their responsibility to report it to us. We provide moderation as a bonus feature of the site. We do NOT consider it our responsibility to protect other people's copyright. We do what we can, far more than most websites, but we're not going to go beyond a best-effort basis to do so.

As Brad said...'bottom line'....