New Browser

CrazyBrowser. Fast & easy to use.

I love firefox for almost all my browsing. Its got mouse gestures, skins and multiple other extentions you can add. I cant even use IE anymore. I'm always trying to use the gestures and it just wont work.

Firefox! Once you get used to tabbed browsing...there is no going back! http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

CrazyBrowser is still IE. So is MyIE2. I like Opera 7.x enough that I was willing to pay for removing the ad banner in the titlebar. Why do I like it so much? First off, I love the tabs. And it's so customizable. It's like the DX of browsers. I tried Mozilla/Firefox, but they don't 'feel' right to me.

I've used Opera and Firefox. Paid for Opera but like Firefox better.

Avant Browser, tabs, popup blocker, and so forth and it skins...

oh and it is free... http://www.avantbrowser.com/

errr John, Avant is built on IE also..... is it not? 

^^AB Is The Best^^

Edit: @#7: It is but it's still the best.
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Opera 7.x is the best going for buying one in my opinion. Avant uses the IE engine, but the options expand IE a longgggg ways and it is free.

If your wanting to totally get ride of IE then check this link out..

http://www.winbeta.org/print.php?id=421

Replace and disable Internet Explorer now Posted by Matt on 04 Jul 2004 - 18:52 - 1 comments - hehe yup Randy it do it do. I'm not worried about IE in the least though so I click the browser which I feel like looking at when going online I have one called Savanna which is a OSX Browser clone also that I use at times. You've probably heard about a particularly nasty Trojan horse attack recently which exploited several vulnerabilities in Microsoft Internet Explorer and Internet Information Services. While viruses and Trojans have been around for years, this particular attack was new because it used several vulnerabilities at once, and it didn't require the user download or install any programs or visit any malicious Web sites. It's time to say goodbye to Internet Explorer and its security flaws forever. Here's how to do it. Before you go removing your only Web browser, you need to have something to replace it with. There are two primary alternatives to Internet Explorer: Mozilla and Opera.

personally Opera would be my choice if buying a Browser is not an issue...




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The two main alternatives are Opera (which I'm currently using) and any browser out of the Mozilla family, most notably Mozilla (which includes an email client) or Firefox which is a standalone browser with extensions one can install if one wants to add more functions to the browser. The advantages: no ActiveX and not subject to many exploits (spyware and malware) that use ActiveX to install themselves to a PC when the user is running IE with default settings.

Additionally, IE does have known vulnerabilities potentially subject to exploit, not all of which have yet been patched by Microsoft. The record with the alternative browsers is to date better on that score and when an exploit/vulnerability is found it is usually addressed in a timely fashion.

One huge and significant difference: IE is part of the MS OS which is not the case with 3rd party browsers which are standalone browsers. This integration of IE and the OS makes it easier for malware that exploits IE to exploit the OS. I'd be a lot happier if MS made it a standalone browser and deintegrated it from the OS (something that is available in XP Embedded but not the standard consumer XP).

It is possible to better secure IE but that will limit its functionality considerably. For example, setting one's IE to not allow any scripting or ActiveX is now recommended. One also can use other apps to better protect one's PC when using IE like the proverbial AVs, antitrojan, antispyware apps, etc. Still IE is long overdue for an overhaul, even MS admits that and recognizes that it should be redone from the ground up. It is said that XP SP2 will improve IE's security but that won't help nonXP users.

Ttere are some nice IE shell browsers like CrazyBrowser, Avant, MyIE2 (which just underwent a name change to I think Maxthon, ick). But they rely and use IE so all these browsers are is essentially a mew suit of clothes for IE. The possible issues with IE still remain.

It depends what you do online how much using Moz or Opera will impair your everyday browsing, since some sites might require ActiveX or display oddly since they're coded primarily for IE. For me it really doesn't impair my browsing at all. And one can continue to use IE for Windows Update and/or sites that actually require ActiveX and they are known safe sites.

But for anyone who continues to use IE (or an IE shell browser) I'd recommend tightening up its settings, especially if one isn't using some other apps that provide better protection from/for the browser like Proxomitron or some antispyware apps. Info on safer settings for IE: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/btw/ie/ie-opts.htm Info on what the settings are/mean (since it can be confusing for some): http://www.broadbandreports.com/faq/8489
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yup it does Randy

But it is kind of vauge "New Browser" and "I've got to get away from Internet Explorer"

Info on safer settings for IE: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/btw/ie/ie-opts.htm

That's a great site, thanks for the link! I just went through and re-configured my security settings following the instructions. I know...I still use IE but I also use Opera and myIE2. At work (government agency) we still use IE, and use netscape composer for mail > but will be switching to mozilla tbird soon.
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It's good that you folks are pointing out that these "new" and "other" browsers are based on IE and talking about safer browsing with IE. I think that too many people, who aren't PC savvy, who are not familiar with protecting their PC's, will just switch to another browser without taking care of any of the security issues they have present. Perfect example is this lady I work with, who said she had to switch to Netscape, because IE wouldn't work with the internet anymore....

Tabbed browseing = yuck!! Not my cup of tea. It may be noteworthy to add that in all the time I have been here I have always used IE

I Fart in your general direction you silly kanigit!

I should add that I have used IE without any problems with the exception of 1 virus. (Not a worm BTW)

I haven't had any good reason to change browsers but maybe time and boredom will change that.

IP: How dare you!!

I sowwie

wait, no I m not!

yeah...

no..

yes.

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I'm so confused



IE is ok fine really. Secure your system and you're not going to have a problem. Though it's a bit klunky when you've a number of things to do while admin hat is on.

Tabbed Browser allows you to have multi-pages from different areas open at one time so you can just click or tab between them.

That is one area it would be a help to you really..

Thank you everyone for your info and suggestions. I'm gonna put a lot of thought into this and let ya'll know.

>IPlural

I dont like the tab browsing either. Even though I can with firefox. I use the mouse gestures to open links in another window.(right click and move mouse down) I use the large button on the left side of my mouse to cycle between windows, and I use another mouse gesture to close windows when I am done with them (right click move mouse down and then right) Mouse gestures for forward and back are easy too.

I went to symantic to check security on my machine while using firefox. It told me that I had to be using IE to check security. Does that mean something??? Even Norton internet security needs IE to try to hack your computer.

NIS does not "Hack" your computer in the least....

No it does not hack the computer, the test from Symantics web site looks for holes that hackers or other ill intented ppl can get into. And it needs IE to look for those holes.

ahh, I see your meaning.

Unless it's changed since I last used it, Symantec's online checker (like many if not most online scanners of this kind) needs IE because it uses ActiveX. It downloads an ActiveX component (which is a amall program really) to your computer to do its thing.

ActiveX allows websites to do cool things however if you have it completely enabled (not set to prompt where at least you can choose whether or not to let a site run an ActiveX control on your PC although that can be a pain when you get a lot of prompts), that means any site you visit can use ActiveX to put stuff on your PC without your knowledge. Which is how a lot of spyware gets on PC's. (Also javascript can also be used to load exploits through the browser.)

Some of the newer known IE vulnerabilites, not entirely yet patched by MS, can allow exploits if any scripting is enabled. Of course you'd have to actually run into a site that has such exploits on them. But a recent incident where "good" sites (which were not publicly named) had their servers compromised and included a malicious script that apparently planted a keylogger on visitors' PC's showed that it's not just going to known "questionable" sites that can result in problems. http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105_2-5247187.html?tag=zdfd.newsfeed While MS issued a patch, it reportedly doesn't really prevent these sorts of exploits and the recommendation is to disable all scripting, including javascript, while using IE. Bummer. >

Anyway, just be careful out on the WWW.

Now I'm confused...................

Anyone have any thoughts about Netscape?