Sooooo.... can you create a Universe???

Amusing. In the end though, we only exist in the giant's dream.

Somehow, I am reminded of 'Men in Black'
Universes within universes.

Bigger fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite 'em
And little fleas have lesser fleas, and so ad infinitum.

Johnathon Swift

I'd like to make 2 points.
First God or bigbang. (Keep reading, I'm not going to start quoting). If you believe in God, (boom) we were here, but were did God come from? If you believe in the bigbang, were did the stuff come from that created the bigbang? Even the first speck of dust in space. Who or what created it? You can't create something from nothing.

Second, Space.
Everyone says space goes on forever. I disagree. To me, space has to end somewhere. We say it goes on forever, because we would never get to the end in our lifetime.
And if space ends, what is on the otherside?
Just something to think about.

That has got to be one of the most entertaining articles I have ever read. Thanks JTB...I'll knaw on this for weeks.

Let me get this straight...The answer to life, the universe and everything is a number and only the scientists really know what is going on...

Where is Zaphod Beeblebrox when you need him?

(At least, I think that is how you spell his name...it's been a long time)

You can't create something from nothing.

I tend to disagree. But I have alot of faith.

Aaah... Crud ! I'm not gonna bite off too much of this one on the quantum physics side because I'm sure I'd overstep my proficiency and some smart physicist would mow me down.

However, without articulating in detail, I don't think there is a necessary and PROVEN disconnect between Creationism and the Big Bang.

I just think we lack the ability to bridge that gap for now and am content to allow my faith to do that for me.

I believe if we were to fly far enough out, we'd find that the universe is located in the bottom of some large cosmic toilet bowl....

We're probably some 6th-grader's seamonkey science project

#4 by Z71 - 5/20/2004 11:27:03 AM

Z71, The stuff that caused the big bang was there and always have been there. Don't you believe that something can stay there for ever, figure this, what happens when you die, you dissapear, for ever.

and yes, I am not a religious person.

2, where is the end of a sphere? if you will fly arround in a sphere you don't end up somewhere, you endup at the same place you started. there is no beginning and if there is no beginning, there is no..... go figure

#10 by Essencay - 5/20/2004 4:32:01 PM We're probably some 6th-grader's seamonkey science project

That is why I found the story so amazing. he is, in some ways, saying it is possible that someone could have created some small universe in there own plain of existence and then this creation disappeared from that persons sight after a split second.

The teach praises the student and the student gets an A+
In the mean time, a universe was created within Time/Space and has grown to its current point that we are in now.

#9 by Wizop Hippy - I believe if we were to fly far enough out, we'd find that the universe is located in the bottom of some large cosmic toilet bowl....

Or, maybe just the nasty ring of deposits...

the only thing certain in life is death and taxes. everything else is just a debate on CNN.

I believe that somewhere in the Universe a civilization is looking at us and giggling. Our quantum physics is what they teach their pre-kindergardners and yes space does end. At the very edge of the known Universe is a very, very, very large and tall brick wall. >

I Just go with heisenberg and as a matter of principle am happy to remain uncertain

I've never been very sure about Heisenberg...

There you go - you've cracked it

My brain hurts........

#7

I was talking about (people) in general.

#11

Everthing has a beginning and ending. The stuff just being there forever is not an answer.(Nor am I looking for one).

Who says space is a sphere. Even if it is, I was talking about "what is on the other side of the sphere".

At the very edge of the known Universe is a very, very, very large and tall brick wall

The sign on this wall has an arrow pointing down, and says, ''This side up''.


The lab experiment universe is an interesting concept. Given that the current probablistic viewpoint of entropy includes the assertion that it is statistically possible for our universe to be nothing more than a random fluctuation of order in a vast arena of disorder.

There''s a lot about the fundamentals of the universe (and the nature of matter, etc.) that we''re still discovering and attempting to understand. Just remember, the universe is not only stranger than you imagine, it''s stranger than you *can* imagine

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Can't it be just strange?

sphere''s are out - latest news actually takes us near to the Universe being a dodecahedron

http://physicsweb.org/article/news/7/10/5

I actually suspect space is more like a field that contains energy/matter that like any other field eventually dissipates at its ''edge''. At this point light is no longer a constant, Einstein goes out the window, as without this constant, time/space is no longer relative - basically true space that can''t be defined by our physical laws as apposed to the dense space etc that we can presently measure.

So the question isn''t so much where does space begin and end - but where does our capacity to define it begin and end.

I think that satisfied its own logic
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I can imagine that such a thing as "nothing" for lack of a better word for it exists.

When I was a kid, probably around the age of 12, I used to imagine that the world beyond my actually awakened presence did not really exist and only parts of it came into existence for the intervals that I had contact with those parts. What I couldn't understand was that if the world beyond my awakened existence only existed when I interacted with it, then why couldn't I change that world to suit my tastes. I think a lot of it had to do with me having very poor eyesight at an early age and the use of glasses was just to bring the world into focus so that my brain could comprehend it. What I saw without glasses was the way it really was.

At least know I the universe exists and my vision problem is a physical one, but I still today have some reservations about my physical connection to this universe, as compared to others connection. A perfect example is still vision and how we see colors. Who is to say that how I see the color "green" is actually the same as how someone else sees it. Another is physical pain, everyone has different thresholds of pain that they can endure. After having back surgery last year, I needed no drugs to deal with the level of pain I was experiencing, though I was hooked up to a self-administering morphine hit, apparrently because people did need something to deal with the level of pain I could face without it.

If we were able to experience the world through the senses of another individual, would we still experience things in the same manner, or would our senses be bombarded with a world of new sensations and experiences?

And as we are now beginning to enter the world of Existentialism I gracefully, gazelle like if you will, run like hell for cover