Logon Studio Interferes With Hibernation on Laptops (XP)

Open box, remove battery from motherboard, replace after 30 seconds, reboot.
Works for me!

Funny. Even if it didn't kill the system, it would void the warranty just to get a pretty picture on the screen for a few seconds.

You sound like one of the morons who thinks it's clever to hack into folks' computers and ruin their lives.

Be sure no one takes that irresponsible advice.

Did he just call you a moron hacker, wombat?


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wow. how rude.

Wombat, is an apprentice. you, caitanya, on the other hand, are a citizen. a pretty now one at that:

Citizen
Author: Gary Stevason
Nick: Caitanya
UserID: 919145

Compare this with this:

Apprentice
Author: John Lancaster
Nick: wombat_1
UserID: 319


look at the difference in user id. he is almost a million members older than you. Wombat likes to joke around, that is his "QUOTE" and that is his solution. AS A JOKE. you caitanya, have done nothing which will promote you and your existence here will be limited if you keep acting like that.
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hey guys, and girls, did i sound like jafo???

just jokin jafo, i said that in defense of our wonderful skinner apprentice, wombat. and i also said that cuz hey, its true!

pretty now

^its suppozd to say pretty new, /me looks sheepish and foolish

Turns out the problem is caused, fortunately, by the boot function. It must be setting some bit or not setting some bit (new schoolers read 'byte')somewhere that paralyzes the hibernate functionality. It fooled me because all seems fine until you reboot, then the machine won't hibernate on closing the lid. That boot Windows commercial doesn't last that long anyway and I only reboot maybe twice a month. Having the cool logon is great because that's what I see all the time.

So, moral of the story: if your laptop hibernates, and you like that, then DO NOT change your boot with the utility found here. So far, everything else is incredible. I've successfully (knock on wood) finished the logon screen change, icons, blinds, sysmetrix. That Schwartz II is very tidy end elegant; keeps my head aligned. Indeed, the schwartz is with me now. Now for cursors and when I get the cash, the whole ball of wax or at least big-time blinds.

So, on the lighter side, I hope my friend understands that when I say someone sounds like a bear, I do not actually think he is covered in fur and defecates in the woods. Similarly someone who jokingly gives harmful advice to strangers (possibly unsophisticated computer virgins) may appear to sound like a moronic hacker. Funny, we called ourselves hackers back in the mid-eighties. It meant video game creator. It was the greatest job in the world, certainly in my life; live and breathe the code every waking moment, crash thinking of the game, wake up thinking of the game, watch the stars turn into your screen, sweet and sour of total insanity combined with absolute rationality, coding in assembly to make it all appear to happen in real-time. Now the hackers seek infamy. Go figure.

Caitanya

BYTE ME

Travis's Hibernation has never worked correctly. Microsoft has never worked out all of the bugs. Sometimes the programs from here interfere with it and a lot of times programs from other places interfere with it.

If you want to complain to somebody about it, complain to microsoft.

and taking out your battery and then putting it back in after 30 sec. does nothing bad to your system that I know of. Your clock might be off for a little bit but as soon as it checks the internet for the time it will fix itself.

Caitanya...not an overly successful backstep from a personal insult.

The suggestion to remove the cmos battery is a good one, as would be alternatively 'shorting' the cmos with the jumper reset option.  It's used to overcome Bios settings which are less than ideal, and nothing to do with 'irresponsible hacking' or any other sort of 'hacking'.

Evil Emperor.....no, you didn't sound like me....'most' times I have more tact....

Oh Evil One, bearer of most exalted low number;

I hardly think that one's longevity on a board has any bearing on anything. I know you should never give catastrophic advice in public where it will not be apparent to outsiders that it was really like a joke, dude. Sorry. Maybe like call the manufacturer or something, I guess, maybe. Tell them you have no idea what happened, and it's not like because you pried the notebook open and started screwing with its innards.

Not everyone intends to live forever in this pleasant little acre in cyberspace. Some come here hoping to get some help, maybe. Innocents can be lead astray. Enough said. But you guys do appear to have fun here. Unfortunately my mission will soon take me to the other side of the cybergalaxy, and you will be left wondering "Who was that masked man"?

And since we revere low numbers, then I should reveal that .....

I Am the One,

NEO


P.S. And yes, I know foxy Wombat is Zero-Cool. Freddie vs. Jason. No, Zero-Cool vs. NEO. And Cool has defeated Neo with his glib humor in the face of Neo's temper tantrum. Neo goes off the wall, then melts again into the cyber dream. Sorry, Wombat, for being so attached to my little dilemma, not to read a few of your posts to see you were just bustin' a chuckle for lamo here.

I must say that XP is pretty clever for covering my butt, by checkpointing my progress even unbeknownst to me. Were it not for that, I'd likely be ripping the box apart soldering extra batteries and who knows what into the wee beastie.

I bet if you call the manufacturer and tell them that something is wrong with your bios they will tell you to either pull out and put back in the battery or pull a reset.

I think I like you, Caitanya! Please do stay awhile

I know you should never give catastrophic advice in public where it will not be apparent to outsiders that it was really like a joke, dude.

I think the issue here is that it was valid, responsible advice used by many and NOT intended to 'mislead' or be a 'joke'.

Generally the suggestion to 'C:\format C:' is considered the 'joke of bad taste'.

Main requirement here is NOT to post personal insults attacking fellow members, irrespective of their UserID number, high or low, m'kay?....

 

They void the warranty if you crack the seal. They ship you a box and you ship it back, wait and then it returns in three weeks - still busted.

Last time I had one returned with a screw floating around inside, which got wedged in the fan blades a year later. Almost at the end of that five year warranty they had to give me a new machine six times more capable because they couldn't fix it in sixty days. I'm not jeopardizing another freeby three years from now for nothing.

My last one actually had several revisions to the bios before it reached the market. It was not a lot of fun searching them down. Some that were done in the factory and in the retail outlet were not even publicized on the web. You really take your chances handing your machine over to one of these hot shots who haven't made enough mistakes to be humble yet. But at the end of the warranty that's what you need; someone who'll screw up bigtime. And that's exactly who I got. "But that's how it's supposed to work" just didn't con on a guy whose earned his living since '65 up his eyeballs in computer magic.

Reading it all again, I realize I was totally off by thinking Wombat was being malicious or flippant. If one has a laptop, out of warranty, and there seems no way to recover then it might be the last ditch solution. Fortunately XP Restore provides another less brutish solution, although I seriously wondered how well that would actually work. Against the wall we trust Bill and his boys.

I guess you guys are not associated with the software offered here. I don't know how to report bugs or whether we even do that sort of tattle-tale thing. I think this may have been an oversight when they made the stretch to XP. Instead of fixing it for 1% of future XP users with laptops that support hibernation, it may just be sufficient if a warning were prominently placed on the download area that notes that the BOOT screen swapper does not support hibernation under XP.

Time to move on. Hope you were sleeping through all this, Wombat. Have a good life.

Gary

Heres the place to go for stardock product support, Caitanya https://www.stardock.com/support.asp

I realize I was totally off by thinking Wombat was being malicious or flippant.

 

Finally....

Yes, I am myself aswell having problem and am dissapointed that I didn't read this article early... So there's really nothing I can do about it... And I'm not voiding my 4 year warrenty that broken in 3 months.... Any other ideas?

Z,

If you just started your warranty, the manufacturer will talk you through correcting the problem, even if it means reinstalling the operating system and starting from scratch, or even shipping the iron off to Kentucky for a month to get fixed. If it's not a laptop, then maybe they'll talk you through a little home repair with the bios or whatever it is that has the system so crazy now. If it is an XP system then on the START menu is the Help and Support option and on that other thread I've posted the direction about how to make your computer start like it did way back when it was working well. This would be better than calling tech support, although they may be able to guide you through it.

Be sure not to mention skins or installing software. For me, it was the boot screen change that caused the problems, which now seem pretty tame compared to what is happening where you are.

I hope you get it back to normal soon. I know life stops when our boxes have issues outstanding.

Caitanys

Here goes agin, and I hope this puts an end to this thread.

Bootskin does not work in the way most people think, it works by redirecting a variable so that it actually looks elswhere for the graphics for a boot screen, in other words it's doing the following

MS say to look in a particular place for the graphics, whereas bootskin says to look elsewhere, thas all it does, nothing more.

There are no files changed only 1 single variable, so it is not at all possible for Bootskin to interfere with the normal running of a computer. As has been said in a previous post, the battery may need changing, take it to a shop and have them change it for you, if you do not wish to change it yourself






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