Parents sue teacher and school for punishing student who used AI

AI is shaking a lot of trees these days! 

Where do you draw the line? Is using AI as a tool cheating? Maybe it is, and maybe it isn't, depending on circumstances, IMO. 

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/10/student-was-punished-for-using-ai-then-his-parents-sued-teacher-and-administrators/

 

 

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The school has every right to enforce this. Its important to establsih the fundamentals because students also needs to be able to recognize when the AI gets it wrong. 

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Since the school distributed a policy on AI and assignments, etc. the student is in the wrong. Besides that, he plagiarized a source which itself plagiarized the work of others, clearly not academic honesty.

*A.I. not used to generate this reply. ;)  

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Do circumstances matter when it's comes to legality and ethics? If you're a student, it's cheating. If it's used as a tool to generate visual effects for a blockbuster movie, then it's good business? Personally, if I was a student, back in school again, I would avoid AI, but since I am not, I must admit that I do enjoy using it as a tool to generate custom desktop wallpaper! 

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Quoting 3java3, reply 3

Do circumstances matter when it's comes to legality and ethics?
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Well, of course the answer is "yes". Take the instance of "carrying a hatchet around".

There's Contextual dependence: "I was carrying a hatchet, but I was in the woods on my property to remove dead limbs."

There are "Justifying contexts" such as "I was carrying the hatchet to defend myself from the cougar that escaped from the zoo."

There are factors like ex post facto: It wasn't yet illegal to carry the hatchet when the man was arrested (but it is now).

Then there's the principle of "nulla poene sine lege" (no punishment in the absence of law forbidding the act).

*this answer was generated with A.I. but interpreted and phrased by me: I love irony.

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To me, it diminishes the ability to use ones creativity...Yes Doc, I'm still alive! ;P :rofl:  

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Quoting don5318, reply 5

To me, it diminishes the ability to use ones creativity...Yes Doc, I'm still alive! ;P :rofl:  
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A Dark Darth Rogue siting sighting! :grin: (*fixed).

Left you messages where you replied on the other threads, old friend...

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My feeling is that AI will eventually replace cognitive thinking and creativity as it has with math and writing skills. Reliance on calculators has caused many to not be able to do simple math in their heads; reliance on spell and grammar checkers has caused many to not be able to spell or use simple grammar when writing; and AI will eventually do the same for independent thinking.

As Illauna said above, "Its important to establsih the fundamentals..."

It's Idiocracy in the making!

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Quoting pelaird, reply 7

My feeling is that AI will eventually replace cognitive thinking and creativity as it has with math and writing skills. Reliance on calculators has caused many to not be able to do simple math in their heads; reliance on spell and grammar checkers has caused many to not be able to spell or use simple grammar when writing; and AI will eventually do the same for independent thinking.

As Illauna said above, "Its important to establsih the fundamentals..."

It's Idiocracy in the making!
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Couldn't agree more!

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Quoting Illauna, reply 1

The school has every right to enforce this. Its important to establsih the fundamentals because students also needs to be able to recognize when the AI gets it wrong. 
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Absolutely.

And, A.I. can cost you dearly...

I was going to write about this for folks here...

Link

 

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Quoting DrJBHL, reply 9


I was going to write about this for folks here...

Link

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This is a very good point Doc, which I hadn't thought about until you pointed it out. Trusting AI with your health sounds like a recipe for disaster.

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Quoting pelaird, reply 10
This is a very good point Doc, which I hadn't thought about until you pointed it out. Trusting AI with your health sounds like a recipe for disaster.
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For sure! :thumbsdown:  

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Quoting DrJBHL, reply 6

A Dark Darth Rogue siting!
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Citing might even be closer...but let's go with sighting...;)

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Quoting Jafo, reply 12


Quoting DrJBHL,

A Dark Darth Rogue siting!



Citing might even be closer...but let's go with sighting...;)

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Fixed boss, but where's my :typo: ? ;)