Thanks!

Another one pretty annoying thing with tray spawning at the top of main monitor when Enhanced Taskbar is disabled.

• Exact Windows version \ build — 23H2 \ 22631.3737
• Steps to reproduce: 
  1. "Let Start11 enhance the taskbar" set to disabled
  2. Align taskbar of main monitor to bottom
  3. Align taskbar of secondary monitor to top (only one secondary monitor in my case)
  4. Now tray always appears as if the main monitor's taskbar is on top, but it's not

Sean

Started a forum thread about this the other day (https://forums.stardock.com/528587/page/1/#3934342) - about how the Taskbar button stacking works at the moment (really badly!) - and pelaird kindly chipped in with some suggestions, but I thought I'd try to bring it to the attention of the Stardock Team directly.

This is how Taskbar stacking works on Win 11 without trying the "enhanced" options. That compressed menu of open windows for any one app (e.g. open emails in Outlook) is just about unusable. That little white down-arrow just scrolls through the open windows far faster than you can select one. Useless:-

pelaird suggested trying Start 11 "Enhanced" options. Sadly, they don't really make things any better, no matter what combination of button display options I try. And they take up a lot more space.

This is how it looks as the moment here, using "Never combine taskbar buttons". The other options are worse.

THIS is how this works as standard on Windows _10_, with no Stardock Start 10 installed, and it's absolutely what is wanted/needed. Stacks lots of open emails/windows in a vertical list (which can get a lot longer than this one), each individually visible and selectable. Perfect.

The fact that Win 11 doesn't do this is a hopeless UI design oversight (who thought it was a good idea to change it?), but it's surely an option that a paid-for UI enhancer like Start 11 should embrace. The current setup is terrible (sorry!).

As far as I can see, at the moment it does not.

This may not be the best place for this message, but in my book it still counts as "Start11 2.08 Release Feedback Thread".

And how else to contact Stardock Support? That's the question!

Using Start 11 v2.08, and Win 11, 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3737)

Best regards

sales135

I was grateful for your suggestion! Unfortunately, it does not work, at least not here. I'd have been even more grateful if it had

Very interesting to see that it works for you though. I wonder why there's a difference?

But as you wonder, perhaps it's a question of whether the taskbar is at the top or the bottom? Not sure - it's a reasonable question. I ought to give it a go.....

This is how it looked here, even after the registry change you suggested - I opened the registry window open so that you could see that I'd set it as suggested. And this followed a reboot too.

So that it's easier to see in detail than in the screenshot above, I've included a screenshot of just the registry setting, as it still is now, nearly 2 weeks later. I could see no reason to change it back from what you'd suggested. Regedit even re-opened on that section.

Best regards

@pelaird

You're quite right - the NumThumbnails setting does work the way needed when the taskbar is at the bottom of the screen. 

Just a pity it feels so odd now, having it down there .

But it's in a different league of usefulness having the open windows displayed in this way.

Would be great to persuade Stardock to fix this so that it works this way when it's at the top too.

I'd say the fact that it doesn't counts as a bug. But then, I would....

One small observation about an app's open-window list. IMO the sort order should be the other way up, with the app itself at the bottom, nearest its taskbar button, and the open windows listing upwards, with the most recently-opened at the top.

Having only just started using it since yesterday afternoon, it appears to be the other way around.

The way it is now would be the way up it needed to be if the taskbar and resulting list were at the top of the screen....

This could be said to be nit-picking however

Quoting lsyoung,

reply 64

I'm not sure if this is new to the most recent release or not (though I sort of remember it not being an issue before) but when allowing Start11 to enhance the taskbar and using virtual desktops, the program seems to stop obeying this windows setting:



I'm very used to using taskbar icons to jump back to a program when I may have forgotten what virtual desktop it is on, so this breaks my normal usage pattern and I need to go flicking through desktops instead.

You can open Enhanced taskbar customization and unwrap first menu. This behavior is controlled by Start11 and can be changed

Edit: My bad, thought it was about taskbar behavior on single desktop

Quoting Plutocrat,

reply 66

G'day all – sorry if this is posted in the wrong place. I have just updated from Start 10 to Start 11 on a Windows 10 machine and, mostly, things don't look any different (which is good). I am using the "Modern Style" core settings. However, take a look at this (yes, I know it's blurred, deliberately)…



You will see that the flyout shown, from the right-hand column has a black background whereas any flyouts from the left-hand column have the expected red background. This behaviour is different from the earlier Start 10 installation and doesn't seem correct.

So, is there a setting I need to change or is this a bug in the software?

Many thanks for your help.

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. But, looking back on Start10, I believe, it can not change the menu background color as you seen in my screenshot below. Not sure if it possible on earlier version. But, it might be changed due to how Windows keep changing things and I don't think you can change those menu background color to specific color. It will be black on Windows dark theme system or White on Windows light theme system.

Thank you.
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

It would be great if Start11 added using default windows search. I use a program to modify default windows search experience to my liking and it was bothersome having that work flow broken last time I tried it. If I could have an option to use normal windows start menu searching then I'd totally buy it.

I'm gonna be honest: I just disabled Start11 because of the persistent issues of windows not the taskbar and going full screen over it. This has been going on to some degree since I installed it, but at this point I can no longer deal with it as it seems to be becoming more frequent.

that's awesome, they didn't have that feature when I first tried it a few years ago. Tried to set it up the way I wanted it now and it worked pretty well definitely a purchase when the trial expires

thanks!

I don't know if this is a bug or is intentional, but when I upgraded from Start11 1.5 to 2.08, I noticed a "Suggested" app at the top of my Windows 10 style Start Menu (above "All apps"). And there doesn't appear to be a way to not show it. This is separate from "Recently installed" apps, which I have disabled via Start Menu options.

My Windows version is Windows 11 Home 24H2 Build 26100.1150.

Also, thank you for "Settings backup" - that's what spurred me to upgrade more than anything.