Prestige Issue Under 5.03.504017

I appreciate the fact that you are working on improving the underlying calculations for achieving a Prestige victory, but I think it still needs some work. Prior to 2.3, I would normally achieve a Military victory at around turn 200, but I just lost a game at turn 93 to a Prestige victory by another civ.

Here is a save file that is right after losing the game to a Luxor Prestige victory:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/s9m7iamiqjjdi16897t9b/Prestige-Issue-Under-2.3.504017.GC4Sav?rlkey=w0qjpcju2e2ypi7sfbexw3bwh&dl=0

When I look at the Luxor in the Diplomacy screen (first screen snapshot below) it shows that I am outside their travelling range.  If you load the save file and zoom out, you will see that I can only see a tiny sliver of Luxor territory 2 sectors away.  It is not very satisfying to dominate the civs that are near me only to lose a Prestige victory to a civ that I have barely met.

When you look at the Prestige Victory Progress popups for my civ and for the Luxors (the next 2 screen snapshots) you will see that the biggest contributor to the Luxors total is "Faction Power" which provides over 1/3 of their total.  Was it your intention to make "Faction Power" such a big contributor? It looks like you capped "Military Power" at 200, so perhaps you may want to think about a cap for "Faction Power" which, as I understand it, is based on all of the other scores.  Is this possibly double counting?

Once again, I am glad that you are tinkering with the Prestige victory calculations, but I think more work still needs to be done and I hope that the above save file will be of value in that effort.

  

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Reply #1 Top

Thank you for sharing this, ill make sure the team sees it

Reply #2 Top

I do not know if you made any changes, but I just won a Prestige victory.  Here are the scores for my civ and my closest opponent:

  

Reply #3 Top

Can someone explain me how "Sector Ownership Score" works ? I've seen AI had it close to 100 in the first 10 turns on a medium size galaxy with several sectors. Also, I don't understand how "Faction Power" is calculated and why it is always the biggest number.

Here is an example regarding "Sector Ownership Score": 

Altarian Republic on turn 153, almost achieved prestige victory (2.2) and owning about 35-40% of a sector and having Sector ownership score of 46:

And on this screenshot (2.3) is Altarian Republic on turn 14 owning maybe 5 % of the sector with a Sector ownership score of 92: