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Start11 v2.05 Beta Feedback Thread

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Start11 v2.05 Beta Feedback Thread

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With the Start11 v2.05 (was 2.04) beta release today, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining the beta:

Object Desktop members can get the beta from within Object Desktop Manager with 'show beta downloads' enabled:

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page:

https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

Reporting an issue:

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)

  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen

  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive service (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube), with a shared link included in your post.  Images can be copied and pasted directly into a post.

  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 v2 a better product.

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Reply #101 from Stardock Forums Top

All,

That Start11 2.05 beta (was 2.04) has been updated.  For details:

https://forums.stardock.com/524909/get;3915022

As always, thank you for your time, feedback, and support.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #102 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting DanHolli, reply 100

double input on touch/pen input still happening when Enhanced Taskbar is enabled

winver: Windows 11 22H2 OS Build 22631.2861

Start 11 v2.04
End of DanHolli's quote

Touch issue Seems to have been fixed with 2.05, I misplaced my pen and are currently unable to test pen input at the moment. Thank you for fixing this :D

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Reply #104 from Stardock Forums Top

Happy to report that the first icon after the Start Button no longer gets corruption when centering the Taskbar (experimental).

Moving the first icon does indeed causes  an issue but only while the icon is moving though...

Reply #106 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting sintemal, reply 90


Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 89

Quoting sintemal,

reply 88

I got an issue with the beta.

If I play a game in fullscreen mode and use the alt+tab to witch to another programm and than back, I have an invisible taskbar at the bottom of the edge on the desktop after exit game.

Thanks in advance!


Are you using an auto hide taskbar?

Also are you using enhanced taskbar mode in S11?


Hallo,

Are you using an auto hide taskbar?

No.

 

Also are you using enhanced taskbar mode in S11?

Whre can I find this settings? Thx.

End of sintemal's quote

 

With the new beta, still the same issue.

I could imagine, that it depends on the game "darktide" or maybe steam. With fortnite but also with cs:go, no issue like that.

Thanks so far.

Reply #107 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting sdrohan, reply 1

Resolved notification center appearing in the wrong place on Win11 in certain circumstances


End of sdrohan's quote

 

Thanks for this, glad we were able to reproduce and resolve this.

Reply #108 from Stardock Forums Top

I wrote in another post that the latest beta corrected the bug of not being able to pin icons at the primary and the secondary taskbars at the same time. Unfortunately, I just realised that the jumplists do not work at the secondary taskbar. Moreover, when I click i.e. at the Excel icon, the Excel app opens on the primary monitor. Thus, the functionality is really limited, since I have to move the mouse cursor to the primary monitor again and move the app to the secondary monitor and then choose from the app the recent file I need to open.

A less irritating issue that I had already documented somewhere is that the right click on the start button at a secondary taskbar opens the win+x menu at the primary taskbar.

EDIT: A temporary solution to the above jumplist problem. Now that pinning on secondary taskbars works nicely, I pinned the files I need often to the secondary taskbars and I manage to overcome the jumplist missing issue. I also use displayfusion and it has an option to open a file on the monitor where the cursor is located, so basically I manage to improve productivity with these measures.

Reply #109 from Stardock Forums Top

Windows 11, 23H2 22631.3007

Intermittently, the taskbar won't unhide when I move the mouse to the bottom of the screen.  Tried to find a reproducable pattern, unable to.  I have turned off windows taskbar auto-hide and am using Start 11's autohide.

Reply #110 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Litcube, reply 109

Windows 11, 23H2 22631.3007

Intermittently, the taskbar won't unhide when I move the mouse to the bottom of the screen.  Tried to find a reproducable pattern, unable to.  I have turned off windows taskbar auto-hide and am using Start 11's autohide.
End of Litcube's quote

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. Do you have GeForce Experience installed? If you do please refer here: https://forums.stardock.com/524069/get;3917464

Thank you.
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

Reply #111 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Nikosyan, reply 108

I wrote in another post that the latest beta corrected the bug of not being able to pin icons at the primary and the secondary taskbars at the same time. Unfortunately, I just realised that the jumplists do not work at the secondary taskbar. Moreover, when I click i.e. at the Excel icon, the Excel app opens on the primary monitor. Thus, the functionality is really limited, since I have to move the mouse cursor to the primary monitor again and move the app to the secondary monitor and then choose from the app the recent file I need to open.

A less irritating issue that I had already documented somewhere is that the right click on the start button at a secondary taskbar opens the win+x menu at the primary taskbar.

EDIT: A temporary solution to the above jumplist problem. Now that pinning on secondary taskbars works nicely, I pinned the files I need often to the secondary taskbars and I manage to overcome the jumplist missing issue. I also use displayfusion and it has an option to open a file on the monitor where the cursor is located, so basically I manage to improve productivity with these measures.
End of Nikosyan's quote

Unfortunately the position of windows is something thats often not controllable by the caller.

We have made a change for the next update which will include a suggested monitor when launching, but this is only used if the app opens the window based on the OS suggested locations and does not save locations itself.  The only other way is to force move the window, but this is rather out of scope for Start11.

Many apps remember the last location so will ignore the above.

Reply #112 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Neil, reply 111


Quoting Nikosyan,
reply 108

I wrote in another post that the latest beta corrected the bug of not being able to pin icons at the primary and the secondary taskbars at the same time. Unfortunately, I just realised that the jumplists do not work at the secondary taskbar. Moreover, when I click i.e. at the Excel icon, the Excel app opens on the primary monitor. Thus, the functionality is really limited, since I have to move the mouse cursor to the primary monitor again and move the app to the secondary monitor and then choose from the app the recent file I need to open.

A less irritating issue that I had already documented somewhere is that the right click on the start button at a secondary taskbar opens the win+x menu at the primary taskbar.

EDIT: A temporary solution to the above jumplist problem. Now that pinning on secondary taskbars works nicely, I pinned the files I need often to the secondary taskbars and I manage to overcome the jumplist missing issue. I also use displayfusion and it has an option to open a file on the monitor where the cursor is located, so basically I manage to improve productivity with these measures.



Unfortunately the position of windows is something thats often not controllable by the caller.

We have made a change for the next update which will include a suggested monitor when launching, but this is only used if the app opens the window based on the OS suggested locations and does not save locations itself.  The only other way is to force move the window, but this is rather out of scope for Start11.

Many apps remember the last location so will ignore the above.

End of Neil's quote

I have just realised that what we pin to the secondary taskbar comes back to the primary if we disconnect the secondary monitors. Is it possible to avoid this? Automatic or all displays is OK but secondary should be only on the secondary? Because then the primary taskbar becomes too full.

Reply #114 from Stardock Forums Top

All,

The Start11 v2.05 beta has been updated.  For changes, please see:

https://forums.stardock.com/524909/get;3915022

As always, thank you for your time, feedback, and support.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

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Reply #115 from Stardock Forums Top

"Added an option to pin a web URL to Start11 directly"

Ahha I have been waiting for this. 

Thanks guys.

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Reply #116 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting pelaird, reply 97

Windows11 23H2 - 22635.2921; Start11v2 2.04

Using Windows 10 style; Use Windows 11 menu style icons

Icon Refresh not Working as Expected on Additional Pages

Icons on additional pages don't refresh when "Pick custom tile image..." is implemented.

In some cases all icons on the page are not displayed; other time just the icon changed is not displayed. The pinned items are there and the bounding box is displayed when hovering over the item, and opens when clicked, but the icons are not displayed.

Now, if you grab the bounding box and start to move it, the icon is then displayed.

Sometimes "Refresh icons" will cause them to show; other times not. Sometimes "Refresh icons" will cause all the icons to disappear.

To reproduce this issue:

Create a new page in the Windows 10 style;
Pin a few items to the new page;
"Pick custom tile image..." for all the items;
Right click one of the pinned items and then Icon>reset to default;
Now, right click the same item and then Icon>"Pick custom tile image...";
Select an image; and
All of the icons have now vanished.

Hover over the pinned items and you will see the bounding box; then
Left click an item and begin to move it and the icon will display.
End of pelaird's quote

This issue appears to be fixed in 2.0.5.1. Thank you.

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Reply #117 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Nikosyan, reply 112


Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 111






Quoting Nikosyan,

reply 108
I have just realised that what we pin to the secondary taskbar comes back to the primary if we disconnect the secondary monitors. Is it possible to avoid this? Automatic or all displays is OK but secondary should be only on the secondary? Because then the primary taskbar becomes too full.
End of Nikosyan's quote

 

Thank you guys, you are amazing. This was fixed.

Reply #118 from Stardock Forums Top

I am using "Sart11 v2.05". There is a bug that the tab line moves when clicking on certain tabs.

 

In the capture, clicking on the "Filer" tab moves the line containing the "Filer" tab one row down.

Clicking on the "Disk&Backup" tab of a row that has been moved to the bottom row moves that row up.

The behavior varies depending on the tab you click.

 

 

Please see the video uploaded below.

https://1drv.ms/f/s!AtACdaOctgRAhZY6EjZxtvQ652QT-g?e=VEdM4p

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Reply #119 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting htakado, reply 118

I am using "Sart11 v2.05". There is a bug that the tab line moves when clicking on certain tabs.

 

In the capture, clicking on the "Filer" tab moves the line containing the "Filer" tab one row down.

Clicking on the "Disk&Backup" tab of a row that has been moved to the bottom row moves that row up.

The behavior varies depending on the tab you click.

 



 

Please see the video uploaded below.

https://1drv.ms/f/s!AtACdaOctgRAhZY6EjZxtvQ652QT-g?e=VEdM4p
End of htakado's quote

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. That is indeed strange, may I know you on Windows 10 or 11? Also need to know your its full version numbers. Use Winver.exe

Thanks
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

Reply #120 from Stardock Forums Top

Win11 Pro 22H2 23619.1000

 This is the above version of Insider Preview since I updated after posting, but it is the same behavior since the beginning of 22H2.

This behavior has occurred since the beginning of V2.

Reply #121 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting htakado, reply 120

Win11 Pro 22H2 23619.1000

 This is the above version of Insider Preview since I updated after posting, but it is the same behavior since the beginning of 22H2.

This behavior has occurred since the beginning of V2.
End of htakado's quote

Would it be possible for you to backup your Start11 settings and upload them and send me a link to them via private message?

Please note it would contain information about your shortcuts etc though not the files themselves.

Doing this would let us reproduce the issue here.

Reply #122 from Stardock Forums Top

Suggestions/bugs:

*make the search content more robust and organized, even if you use the everything search, the results are cluttered unlike the startallback, it can search what you want to find (this is only using the windows search index), its more organized and have the capability to click let us say only the "documents" you want to search (it has filter) and will open the file explorer for more results, with regards to everything search its all over the place unless you are using the everything search tool(the program itself) where you can filter it according to docs, pictures etc.

+been doing the win10 styles search and new one style search still its missing a lot of search capability specially if your searching for FILE CONTENTS inside certain documents or pdf etc... it can't be at par with startallback fast searching using the default windows search indexing only.

=the search results also is limited to the size of the startmenu, that is why some details(output search results) are missing

=sometimes when you are searching file contents there is a chance that startmenu would stop working and refreshes the windows explorer. and you will repeat the process again( i dont know it its  memory leak)

*the starmenu is buggy when you use the automatic accent color, my background wallpaper (desktop) is set to change every 10 minutes so the color schemes should also change when the background changes, however, the startmenu becomes opaque or translucent, the only way to return to the starmenu desired layout(all those wallpapers in each tabs and its colors) is to clicking the starmenu again or on keyboard, it refreshes and adapts to the color schemes again.

*sometimes, when you try to click the startmenu there is a chance that the default win11 startmenu pops out even if you select the all option to always popout start11 menu

*ill still add more if i find something buggy or suggestions to keep your product better, anyway im supporting this good software coz i ilke i!!! ;)

my windows 11 version is 23h2 build 22631.3007

thank you Po! God bless.

 

Reply #123 from Stardock Forums Top

Windows 10 OS Build 19045.3930

I just updated Start 11 v2 to the 2.05.1 beta. I use the Widows 11 style.Now my taskbar start button cannot be center aligned. It, along with the pinned taskbar icons, is now left aligned. Changing settings back and forth does not help. Rebooting does not help. This was working fine in version 2.05.

Reply #124 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting dctrbnsttr, reply 123

Windows 10 OS Build 19045.3930

I just updated Start 11 v2 to the 2.05.1 beta. I use the Widows 11 style.Now my taskbar start button cannot be center aligned. It, along with the pinned taskbar icons, is now left aligned. Changing settings back and forth does not help. Rebooting does not help. This was working fine in version 2.05.
End of dctrbnsttr's quote

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. Just to confirm, do you also have Windowblinds running?

Thanks
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

Reply #125 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting basj, reply 124


Quoting dctrbnsttr,
reply 123

Windows 10 OS Build 19045.3930

I just updated Start 11 v2 to the 2.05.1 beta. I use the Widows 11 style.Now my taskbar start button cannot be center aligned. It, along with the pinned taskbar icons, is now left aligned. Changing settings back and forth does not help. Rebooting does not help. This was working fine in version 2.05.



Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. Just to confirm, do you also have Windowblinds running?

Thanks
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

End of basj's quote

 

 

No, not Windowblinds, but, I do have Curtains and Fences 5 running. I reinstalled version 2.0.5 over top of the 2.0.5.1 beta, and this fixed things. I kind of remember something like this happening before with Start 11 version 1. But, I don't recall the solution. I am just now thinking that the fix required an update to Curtains.......