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Object Desktop Start11 stuck on "Update"

February 21, 2023 10:49:06 AM from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Object Desktop - Start11 always on Update after product just updated

For about a month now, after successfully updating Start11 from Object Desktop to the most current version, multiple times, and restarting the PC, Object Desktop still reports that Start11 has an update.

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Reply #1 February 21, 2023 11:12:34 AM
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I do believe this is a known issue and being looked at.

 

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Reply #2 February 21, 2023 11:29:34 AM
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Sorry for your trouble. Object Desktop Manager will be fixed, but no definite date yet.

In the meantime, compare the version number of whichever program currently on your machine to the version number available in your account.

If there's no difference, there's no need to update. Disregard the systray Object Desktop Manager app until it's fixed.

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Reply #3 February 21, 2023 11:51:11 AM
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Thank you for the prompt reply. It's good to know that the issue has already been identified and is being worked on.

Thanks!

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Reply #4 February 21, 2023 12:55:58 PM
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Quoting aristotlesuniverse,
reply 3

Thank you for the prompt reply. It's good to know that the issue has already been identified and is being worked on.

Thanks!

You're welcome. 

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Reply #5 March 4, 2023 3:31:00 AM
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Can You please finally fix this? 



1.4.04 installed here. Also the changelog shows 1.39.1

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Reply #6 March 5, 2023 10:05:18 AM
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Today I see it is not just STart11 that is doing this. Fences and Windowblinds 11 the same. They report up to date when I check them in the associated software and show as needing updates in Object Desktop.

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Reply #7 March 5, 2023 10:18:00 AM
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As a programmer myself I always think it can't be so hard to let that little tool know that installed apps from the same company are decent versions. But hey...

Or just implement Stardock apps properly into Winget for updating. Problem solved.

And I don't understand why this is hold so poor in priority at Stardock., It is disgusting and not professional as hell not being able to monitor it's own apps for decency, sorry. 

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Reply #8 March 5, 2023 10:33:43 AM
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Quoting c242,
reply 7

As a programmer myself I always think it can't be so hard to let that little tool know installed apps are decent versions. But hey...

I think it's more a question of resource allocation atm, but I'm (rightly) not privy to SD's short and long range order of project time/resource allocation.

Start11, and other affected software, etc. are getting more attention by the devs because MS decided to free Moment 2 to whomever wanted to install it 2 weeks early, screwing up SD's schedules (from what Neil has mentioned in forums).

Be patient. It'll get fixed. See reply #2 in this thread for a work around.

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Reply #9 April 14, 2023 7:49:54 AM
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same issues..

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Reply #10 April 14, 2023 7:52:13 AM
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Quoting DizAstro,
reply 9

same issues..
Quoting DrJBHL,
reply 2

Sorry for your trouble. Object Desktop Manager will be fixed, but no definite date yet.

In the meantime, compare the version number of whichever program currently on your machine to the version number available in your account.

If there's no difference, there's no need to update. Disregard the systray Object Desktop Manager app until it's fixed.

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Reply #11 May 27, 2023 7:21:44 AM
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I am having the same issue with Windowsblinds 11. Installed the latest version multiple times. But object desktop manager continues to say it needs updating.Shows latest version installed and update required

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Reply #12 May 27, 2023 7:30:53 AM
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Quoting Smegger213,
reply 11

I am having the same issue with Windowsblinds 11. Installed the latest version multiple times. But object desktop manager continues to say it needs updating.
The question has already been answered in reply #2:

Quoting DrJBHL,
reply 2

Sorry for your trouble. Object Desktop Manager will be fixed, but no definite date yet.

In the meantime, compare the version number of whichever program currently on your machine to the version number available in your account.

If there's no difference, there's no need to update. Disregard the systray Object Desktop Manager app until it's fixed.

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Reply #13 May 27, 2023 9:21:27 AM
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Quoting JanOscar,
reply 12


Quoting Smegger213,
reply 11

I am having the same issue with Windowsblinds 11. Installed the latest version multiple times. But object desktop manager continues to say it needs updating.

The question has already been answered in reply #2:


Quoting DrJBHL,
reply 2

Sorry for your trouble. Object Desktop Manager will be fixed, but no definite date yet.

In the meantime, compare the version number of whichever program currently on your machine to the version number available in your account.

If there's no difference, there's no need to update. Disregard the systray Object Desktop Manager app until it's fixed.


I did notice that. But I continued to post because this bug has been around for a lot longer than Feb 2023. Yet it hasn't been fixed.

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Reply #14 May 27, 2023 9:33:22 AM
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It's very annoying. Usually Stardock is better than this.

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Reply #15 July 18, 2023 3:37:42 PM
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Object Desktop is telling me that 4 products require update. They are all up to date. I just spent an hour trying to figure this out. Please fix this known issue immediately! There is no excuse for this to keep happening on software I have paid you for.

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Reply #16 September 11, 2023 7:56:28 PM
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8 months and there's still no fix? C'mon that's pretty shoddy..

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Reply #17 September 11, 2023 11:23:04 PM
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I understand your irritation and frustration, as I use SD software as well.

I think if this were an easy fix, it would have been done already.

Maybe the problem requires a revamp of the app altogether...I don't know, not being a dev, myself. I really wish I could help, but I can't. 

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Reply #18 September 12, 2023 6:43:10 AM
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Quoting drgonzoishere,
reply 16

8 months and there's still no fix? C'mon that's pretty shoddy..

 

Its a lot longer than 8 months.

For me it started with it telling me my Windowblinds needed an update, well over a year ago probably.

Now it tells me all these need updates:

Start 11

Fences

Windowblinds 11

I have updated all 3, yet it still says they need updates.

The only thing Object Desktop Manager is getting right, is it telling me that my subscription runs out on 23rd Sept.

 

This problem has gone un-fixed for far too long.

Its a farce.

 

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Reply #19 September 12, 2023 7:08:54 AM
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Quoting Smegger213,
reply 18


Quoting drgonzoishere,
reply 16

8 months and there's still no fix? C'mon that's pretty shoddy..



 

Its a lot longer than 8 months.

For me it started with it telling me my Windowblinds needed an update, well over a year ago probably.

Now it tells me all these need updates:

Start 11

Fences

Windowblinds 11

I have updated all 3, yet it still says they need updates.

The only thing Object Desktop Manager is getting right, is it telling me that my subscription runs out on 23rd Sept.

 

This problem has gone un-fixed for far too long.

Its a farce.

 

In the meantime just uncheck the notify option or uninstall the app until it's fixed. Just check your version against what's listed as available in your account.

That's the currently available workaround.

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Reply #20 September 12, 2023 7:21:52 AM
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This is indeed a problem and I will go yell at the right people about this.

The issue is due to how ODM handles version number detection and it is being confused by some of the newer releases.

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Reply #21 September 12, 2023 7:32:34 AM
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Quoting Smegger213,
reply 18

Now it tells me all these need updates:

Start 11

Fences

Windowblinds 11
There is currently no need or reason to have Object Desktop Manager running for those apps, because they check for updates on a regular basis and notifies you when an update is available. If you still want to make sure you are running the latest version, you can simply click your user icon in the upper right and and go to Downloads on you account to check.

If Object Desktop Manager had been a vital part for Stardock apps to function and get updates, a fix would have certainly been in place.

Quoting DrJBHL,
reply 19

That's the currently available workaround.

Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 20

This is indeed a problem and I will go yell at the right people about this.

The issue is due to how ODM handles version number detection and it is being confused by some of the newer releases.

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Reply #22 September 12, 2023 8:32:20 AM
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Quoting JanOscar,
reply 21


Quoting Smegger213,
reply 18

Now it tells me all these need updates:

Start 11

Fences

Windowblinds 11

There is currently no need or reason to have Object Desktop Manager running for those apps, because they check for updates on a regular basis and notifies you when an update is available. If you still want to make sure you are running the latest version, you can simply click your user icon in the upper right and and go to Downloads on you account to check.



If Object Desktop Manager had been a vital part for Stardock apps to function and get updates, a fix would have certainly been in place.

Quoting DrJBHL,
reply 19

That's the currently available workaround.




Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 20

This is indeed a problem and I will go yell at the right people about this.

The issue is due to how ODM handles version number detection and it is being confused by some of the newer releases.


 

Why should I have to go to my account on the Stardock web site, just to see if I have the latest software version?

This is purely what the Object Manager program is supposed to be for.

 

Oh and going to Downloads on my account just shows Object Desktop Ultimate and a product key.

It does not tell me the version numbers of all the different programs.

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Reply #23 September 12, 2023 9:02:21 AM
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Quoting Smegger213,
reply 22

Why should I have to go to my account on the Stardock web site, just to see if I have the latest software version?
You don't. I just gave you an alternative option IF you would like to double-check.

Quoting Smegger213,
reply 22

Oh and going to Downloads on my account just shows Object Desktop Ultimate and a product key.

It does not tell me the version numbers of all the different programs.
To my knowledge, it was never called Object Desktop Ultimate. What you should see is something similar to this and you can click on Viev individual download to see links to all the installers and their version numbers.

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Reply #24 September 12, 2023 9:06:37 AM
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Quoting Smegger213,
reply 22

Why should I have to go to my account on the Stardock web site, just to see if I have the latest software version?

Because that's the only way to do it atm.

Quoting Smegger213,
reply 22

Oh and going to Downloads on my account just shows Object Desktop Ultimate and a product key.

It does not tell me the version numbers of all the different programs.

Click on the Downloads dropdown > then on the Object Desktop Manager tab click on View Individual Downloads. Then you'll see the list of software and version available.

Apart from that, Fences, Windowblinds and Start11 will inform you independently that there's an update in a window on your desktop.

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Reply #25 September 12, 2023 9:45:45 AM
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Quoting JanOscar,
reply 23


Quoting Smegger213,
reply 22

Why should I have to go to my account on the Stardock web site, just to see if I have the latest software version?

You don't. I just gave you an alternative option IF you would like to double-check.


Quoting Smegger213,
reply 22

Oh and going to Downloads on my account just shows Object Desktop Ultimate and a product key.

It does not tell me the version numbers of all the different programs.

To my knowledge, it was never called Object Desktop Ultimate. What you should see is something similar to this and you can click on Viev individual download to see links to all the installers and their version numbers.


You are wrong mate. There was an Ultimate. This is what mine looks like:

Oh, thanks DrJBHL, I can now see where the individual version numbers are.

But isn't it time that the Object Desktop Manager was sorted out?

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