Start11 1.30 Release Issue Report Thread

Start11 1.30 Release Changelog

• Versioned to 1.3
• Fixed an issue with the WinKey fix for insider releases not working right if you wanted it to open the OS menu not S11 always
• Fixed the issue with not pinning to the start menu when using Pin to Start on desktop shortcuts

Prior Beta Changelogs (post 1.25 release)

Start11 1.28 Beta

1. Winkey to open the start menu is restored on Insider builds
2. Toggling hide caption on an icon no longer jumps back to the first page
3. Right-clicking to the left of the start button when using the enhanced taskbar in center mode will now show the right-click menu correctly on the primary monitor
4. Config UI detects insider build with new taskbar and indicates which features do not work with that
5. Config UI detects Win11 22H2+ and indicates top align taskbars do not work with autohide enabled
6. Small timing tweak for center taskbar on Win11 with enhanced taskbar turned on for Insider builds
7. Fix for the right-click start button menu not painting right
8. Fix for the background of the taskbar having a color when the WB skin didn't define one
9. Fix for the position of the mini search popup and virtual desktops screen
10. Fix for the position of the native Win11 start menu all when having center taskbar with the enhanced taskbar enabled.

Start11 1.27 Beta

• Version 1.26 was updated to fix a pinning issue, version was updated as a result.

Start11 1.26 Beta

1. NEW (experimental): Users can now center the Start11 button when using the Start11 Enhanced Taskbar. This supports custom start buttons too. 
2. New - You can now rename shortcuts on the Win10/11 style start menus via the right-click menu
3. Fixed issue with restart computer when other users are logged in not working correctly after the warning message.
4. Fixed alignment of the new centered start button option to take into account the extra width of the bar
5. Fixed issue with taskbar being sluggish when file copies were taking place when enhanced taskbar was enabled.
6. Added new localization strings for 1.26 for new UI changes
7. Resolved flicker issue when opening the start menu on Win11 insider builds when animations are disabled
8. A code change to potentially resolve an issue with universal app icons loading as solid black in edge cases
9. Change to initialization of taskbar code to possibly help with wrong icons loading from the icon cache for pinned items
10. Fixed issue with only 1 sysicon causing a scrolling arrow to show sometimes
11. Changed Start11 to open the menu on the primary monitor when opened via the Winkey rather than the monitor the mouse is on. If anyone wishes to use the old behavior you can do so by defining "OldWinKeyLogic" as a string value here HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\Start8 and giving it a value of "1"
12. Fixed issue with keyboard not opening groups on the menu correctly when enter is pressed. Pressing space now also toggles them.
13. Fixed issue with rapid clicking on taskbar button with no other open windows not always minimizing the window consistently.
14. Resolved problem with some custom scaling factors causing the start menu to not show or show on the wrong screen.
15. Resolved issue where all programs button overlaps shutdown button when in compact mode Win7/modern style with quick launch hidden and search disabled.
16. Resolved issue with right-click on date when taskbar is at the top on Windows 11 providing a menu that did not work correctly when clicked.
17. Internal redesign of some taskbar logic to prevent the possibility of a hang
18. Now supports MS edge website shortcuts on the Win10/11 style start menus (Requires Windows 11)
19. Resolved issue with erroneous rapid clicking on the start button resulting in the menu not being visible but then animating out next time you click.
20. Fixed an issue on Windows 11 native start icon where it would not consistently register clicks, they would appear pent up and flash a bunch in a row.
21. Resolved flicker issue when opening the start menu on Win11 insider builds when animations are disabled
22. A code change to potentially resolve an issue with universal app icons loading as solid black in edge cases
23. Change to init of taskbar code to possibly help with wrong icons loading from the icon cache for pinned items
24. Updated user submitted Japanese translation (credit to user htakado)
25. Netflix when fullscreen (and other universal apps) no longer vanishes from the enhanced taskbar
26. Issues with multi-line system tray icons painting under the clock or leaving too much space etc resolved
27. Search for Windows settings items enhanced slightly
28. Search results for apps now show two lines of text vs one as some apps have quite long names which make it less usable
29. Taskbar shifting down 12 or so pixels (at 100% scaling) hopefully resolved
30. Taskbar shifting along the screen for some users on occasion hopefully resolved
31. Fixed issue with not showing Search/Task view / Widgets / Chat sometimes when toggled on from an off state
32. Fixed issue with Win7 mode where clicking to open the jumplist via keyboard (space key) didn't set the focus correctly to an expanded list
33. Worked around an issue with universal app icons when running caused by using Actual Window Guard
34. Worked around an issue with the menu closing incorrectly sometimes when you want to open it when using Actual Window Guard
35. Resolved issue with an explorer crash in rare circumstances with enhanced taskbar enabled
36. Search results for settings now wrap the text when required in Start11 search mode
37. Fixed issue with Brave browser profiles overlay image appearing bottom right (normal for Win10) rather than top right on the icon on Windows 11
38. Stopped very tall window switcher lists jumping to the top of the screen in error with enhanced taskbar enabled.
39. Resolved an issue with seconds on the clock in US region causing shifting of icons sometimes depending on the date

Known issues

While we appreciate all feedback, please remember that we offer no official support for beta \ preview \ developer channel versions of Windows. If you report issues while in any of those early release channels, you should not expect them to be addressed unless it still exists in a retail version of Windows.

• Initially hovering over the taskbar search may have the preview thumbnail render offset.  Subsequent hovers will render it in the correct location:
  
  
  
• For some PCs on both Win10 and 11, the native Windows start menu will show 'sleep' where the Start11 one might not (again, not the case with all installs).  This will be addressed in a future update. 

***Reserved***

https://forums.stardock.com/514539/get;3865308

Still broken in v1.3

Two issues remain

1. Right click on the left side of the start button fails on secondary monitors

2. Peek preview positions to the far left on secondary monitors

In the email I got regarding the 1.3 release the very first feature states: "Replace your Start menu icon when centered", I installed it from my Object Desktop installer and went to the Start  Button section in the Start11 options only to be greeted to a disabled custom start button image selector with a message in red stating "Only supported when start button is on the left of the taskbar in Windows 11." So were you lying in the email?

If I had not got it through my Object Desktop subscription and had paid for it based on that feature I could legally claim you misadvertised it.

This should be working, here it is functioning on my work Win 11 machine:

Please let us know your full Windows version (winver.exe) and I want to make sure you did reboot after updating

Paul Scroggins
Associate Technical Support Analyst

Hmm, it's not working on mine and I rebooted.

Running Windows 11 Home, 10.0.22621 Build 22621

This was pretty edge case so not considered for 1.3.

Tanjo3000 & davidmichaelangelosilva

Do you have the enhanced taskbar turned on?

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Original 922 x 523

Paul Scroggins
Associate Technical Support Analyst

Quoting davidmichaelangelosilva, reply 8

Hmm, it's not working on mine and I rebooted.

Running Windows 11 Home, 10.0.22621 Build 22621

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Original 471 x 91

End of davidmichaelangelosilva's quote

Have you enabled the enhanced taskbar options in start11?

That is only an option if you have let Start11 control the taskbar.

I'd been waiting for v1.3 because I saw that the shifting taskbar icons when displaying seconds in the clock had been addressed in the betas.  But after updating, I don't see that the problem has changed at all.  Did the fix not make it into the release version?

Windows 11 Pro 22H2 Version 22621.608

Uninstall, reboot, reinstall 1.3 as it sounds like everything did not get updated fully.

Hi,

When I allow Start11 to control the taskbar, and I centre the customized start button, the previews of the open apps appear as though Windows "thinks" the taskbar is aligned left (see screen shot). Obviously, this is not functionally useful.

Cheers, 

Mark

Nope, still doing it after uninstalling, rebooting and a reinstall.

I'm also still having this problem.  I've verified that my Start11 is version 1.3, and I rebooted.

All, 

Thanks for the feedback thus far but we want to remind everyone that we cannot support issues found with beta \ insider builds of Windows.  The extremely fluid nature of such builds makes reacting to them neither wise nor prudent use of time and resources.

Thanks.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Just to be clear, mine is the release version, no beta, no insider.

My windows 11 is also not beta or insider build.  I'm running Windows 11 Home, version 21H2.  I know Start11 is in beta, I thought we were providing feedback about functions not working as described for this beta?

Quoting Neil, reply 11

Quoting davidmichaelangelosilva,

reply 8

Hmm, it's not working on mine and I rebooted.

Running Windows 11 Home, 10.0.22621 Build 22621

 

Original 471 x 91

Have you enabled the enhanced taskbar options in start11?

That is only an option if you have let Start11 control the taskbar.

End of Neil's quote

Turns out the application hadn't been updated . . . Even though I began the installation process, but it must have failed?

Anyway, it's working now that it has actually been updated.

Can you fix the search menu from opening at the bottom when the taskbar is positioned at the top?

Also the widgets icon should be positioned at the left of the taskbar which is the default behavior, but when selecting the option to enhance the taskbar it moves it to the middle?

Quoting cottontails2, reply 21

Can you fix the search menu from opening at the bottom when the taskbar is positioned at the top?

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Original 1920 x 800

 

Also the widgets icon should be positioned at the left of the taskbar which is the default behavior, but when selecting the option to enhance the taskbar it moves it to the middle?

Reduced 43%

Original 1920 x 800

End of cottontails2's quote

The widgets position is normal due to how things work.

Please add support to pin shortcuts for Windows 10 OneNote pages, as windows does it.

Now it's possible only manually with 5 steps instead of 1. 

1) copy link to notebook section,

2) past it in text editor,

3) copy part that starts with "onenote:",

4) past it in new shortcut,

5) pin that shortcut to Start11.

Wrong! It is literally supposed to be on the left side with the expanded view where it says "clear" as part of the weather, before even using Start11 i used the registry tweak to have the taskbar at the top and Windows 11 by default has the widget on the left when using centered icons! It is only when you enable "enhance the taskbar" in Start11 that the widgets icon goes to the center!

No you misunderstand me.

As I said due to how things work.  As in how start11 has to work to provide the enhanced taskbar options.

The widget will be on the left with start11 when you do not enable the enhanced taskbar.