Are there any kind of programs up there in Oregon for reduced health/med costs (still probably not cheap but at least not retail)? Do you fall in the cracks between not having enough money for a regular health plan or at least not all the meds but not poor enough to get assistance for health care and discounts on meds?

Don't know what programs may be available in Oregon but have you checked with some public mental health programs/services just in case there is something? (Not saying ADD is the same as being nuts, although it can result in additional frustration and stress, just that perhaps these places might have info on what programs might be available, if anything, for affordable meds.)

Anyway, I thought you had mentioned ADD earlier so I try to keep that in mind. A friend of mine has a kid with ADD and he's a great kid, but he does need his meds. That also might explain why you seem to so often ask what people think of you, how you're "coming across" to people. That used to baffle me, then irritate me. So again I try to put it in context, FWIW.

Anyway, if you haven't already looked into whatever health assistance/discounts might be available in Oregon that would be worth a look. If you already have looked into it and there's nothing, then that stinks.

Pressing the button more than once will not cause the elevator to arrive any sooner. I propose that such wanton button pushing be outlawed and the offender's "push" priveleges be suspended. They must either wait for a qualified "rider" to arrive who fully understands the button and what it does, or be accompanied by a qualified rider who may push the button(s) for them. At no time may they push any buttons related to the operation of an elevator, even under the direct supervision of an allowed "pusher" for a period of up to one year for first offenses.
During that one year period, the restricted rider must complete a five hour training course on elevator usage, the alternative health benefit of using stairs and pass a 100 question test about buttons in general,
ie:Elevator, vending machine, web page submit, etc.

Yes Kona you are correct ,this thread would have been better recieved from almost anyone else.May not be fair,your just the burr under the saddle sometimes.The rock in the shoe of wincustomize.

mmm...

Kona, hows things going outside of this thread or site?

I can never understand all the antagonism you guys throw at Kona, personally I have never had a problem with any of his posts. Maybe it's just me? I sincerely believe he is trying hard to fit in here, and he's not doing a bad job as far as I can see. So, as a moderator on this site, I am asking you all to cut him some slack. There are, and have been in the past, much more annoying people on this board. And I have read many more inane threads than this one.

So having said that, there ought to be a law force people to give others a second chance.

sig101 -

Up here in Oregon, we have the Oregon Health Plan. Although I owe them $36 bucks (Although I could pay them off anytime) I do not quilfy because I make to much at work. I will look into the mental health thing, thanks. I hear they are free. I might even join a ADD support group.

Shmoopy-
your threads are not stupid but on the contrary, they cheer me up. I love you as a friend. You have always been helpful to me and you are a very happy, radiant person. Thank you. Sorry If I offended you!

Iplural-
Not alot going on off site. Same old stuff, different day. I still have my job at best western, thank God. I think I have set a record for having a job this long.
My ebay sells are still going strong. And my bicycle is almost complete.
My wife and I have been argueing alot lately. I complain that the house is never clean, she complains that I spend to much time online and don't help her clean the house. Why should I? I clean close to 20 peoples messes a day so why come home to clean my mess when she has had 5 hours to herself in witch to do it?
My mood swings are getting worse. I wake up angry alot. And then everyone, including you people here, suffer.
On a good note my bills are all up to date and paid.
Thanks for asking.

BoXXI - I am in your debt. Thank you.

#55 by Moderator BoXXi - 10/7/2003 10:06:17 PM I can never understand all the antagonism you guys throw at Kona, personally I have never had a problem with any of his posts.

FWIW that goes for me too - so he (? ) is a bit fiesty at times but so what?

Thx Chris.

Kona, I was joking about the "pouting" factor... I was actually in agreement with you about my th read...and my self-imposed "Queendom of all things non-topic." hehe

Most of my threads are pretty silly and nothing to do with skinning... I like the community here for the artistic/skinning but when it comes to the forum it's just to touch base with folks I care about and get to know new folks too.

Just a small tid-bit of advice from my own lesson-learning...

Sometimes it's good to just not even participate for a bit (like a week or so)...let things rest and THEN make an innocuous thread. That way if folks are a bit sore with you it's water under the bridge by then and people are more receptive.

thx shmoopy. maybe I will try that disappearing for a week thing.

keep your head up girl!

I think Shmoopy was just teasin ya Kona.

As for "stupid" threads, I thought this general discussion board was the place for them. That's why I hang out here.

edited to add that Shmoopy is much faster on the draw than I am as she replied while I was still typing.
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All things in moderation.....[I'm full of 'em....or....full of 'it'...]....

wow! I have more friends here than I thought? thank you all!

HEY!!!!! Didn't you read my law? 7 hour brake till I wake up >

Yes, I have chronic ADD. Hard to control without meds and since I have no health plan, I have not had my prozac for over a year

If you are an adult with ADD, you probably don't need medication like prozac (which is really more of a psychiatric drug). Sure you may have mood swings; feel depressed. Thing is you want to treat the cause and not the symptom. The last thing you need is some psychiatrist making drug stew in your brain. Something like prozac may seem to help in that they keep you on a level course, keep the symptoms contained. The goal, no matter your age, should be more than that.

Medications specific to ADD would be better for you. You would notice marked improvement in concentration which leads to more success... on the job and in your personal life. That is what will improve your mood-swing problem. A little success in your life. Also, it improves your working memory so that you can build your life one event, one class, one learning experience upon another. Not to mention that it minimizes compulsivity.

Recently some of the medications *magnesium pemoline, for one* have come out from patented status and generics are available. You just have to find a doctor knowledgeable enough to believe in Adult ADD. Also, third and fourth generation medications are coming on the market that are really quiet remarkable.

It may seem like a lot to afford, but consider this... It can quite literally turn your life around and give you a real future.There are clinics in most cites that will offer free medical treatment.

I agree with #55 from BoXXi...Just read this whole thread, and been on this board for the last couple of weeks again, and Kona hasn't been an annoyance to me in any thread that I have read. Some do have bad starts on the board, I had too, as I am sure many had that experience. There also is a tendency to keep picking on people once they have a certain "status". That doesn't help really. New law: Stop making fun of people. Sub 1 A: Sanction is a month ban from all message boards. Sub 1 A1: Submitting one skin that gets a 7 or higher will lift the ban.

diet can also play a huge part in keeping things on an even line, and sleep

Prozac is a farce, it's a wonder drug do all swiss army knife of pharm residual profits.

Kind of like Paxil was for the longest time which was another bust on the do anything for real margin.

Speed works in reverse and Ritilan is nothing but speed renamed with a couple of things changed in the chemistry of it, speed all the same....

Driven to Distraction is a good book to read because it has different tools you can make use of and breaks things down in a manner which is easy to follow and it also explains what you can expect to some extent and what to do when you run into it.

Your wife might consider reading a few books on what *she* can do to help and what she should expect *you* to do for yourself, while also lending osme ideas on how to train yourself to follow through and up on things.

It is good to hear you've stuck with that specific job
Though don't forget it isn't you goal but one of many present and future rides to the final destination (even though that might change many times before you actually get there)

Kona, a lot of the time, I have to give myself a number of moments before hitting submit so I can read and re-read a post and even then I have to stop and look at it side ways to make sure I am not being a cause of trouble with or for others

anyway... be safe and breath... smile to it helps !

I can never understand all the antagonism you guys throw at Kona, personally I have never had a problem with any of his posts. Maybe it's just me? I sincerely believe he is trying hard to fit in here, and he's not doing a bad job as far as I can see. So, as a moderator on this site, I am asking you all to cut him some slack. There are, and have been in the past, much more annoying people on this board. And I have read many more inane threads than this one.So having said that, there ought to be a law force people to give others a second chance.

Karmagirl: read and understand what Boxxi said. This is in reply to what you posted in the Marathon thread.

Again, Thank you BoXXi.

#69 by Kona0197 - 10/8/2003 8:02:21 PM

ouch

Kona....BoXXi isn't on this board as often as some....hence his not 'having a problem'....however those who are here often are witness to numerous rash statements followed by retractions and many conflicting views which change with the season....from OS preference to just about any subject imaginable.

Hint....adopt an opinion and stick to it.....research uncertainties so input can be cogent...don't try so hard to 'fit in'...and ideally avoid crossing swords with those responsible for the smooth running of the site....and all will be well...

don't try so hard to 'fit in'

I think that is my biggest problem.

BTW I have put my sword away.

Thanks.

#69 by Kona0197 - 10/8/2003 8:02:21 PM Karmagirl: read and understand what Boxxi said. This is in reply to what you posted in the Marathon thread.

What BoXXi said is his opinion.  I don't have to agree with it.  If you saying that the moderators would reject a submission from you simply because it was from you doesn't bother him, or that you tell people to "get a life" and "grow up" isn't something he objects to, then that is his opinion - but I don't agree.  There are many *many* things that you have said that should not be tolerated, but they are and you repeatedly say "sorry" for them but you never change the behavior.

You need to also keep some things in perspective here: 1) Not all the admins pay attention to the boards as much as Jafo, Paxx and I do.  2) I work for Stardock.  Why does that matter?  Because I have a bit more at stake than the other moderators.  I have worked at Stardock for a very long time, I am part of the management team, and I would hate to think that new customers or site contributors do not post to this site because of some of the unnecessary and objectionable posts that are made here.  If you don't like my opinion, maybe you should take another perspective.  How would you like it if you worked at a company since it was a start-up, spent countless hours on your own time working on a site to help it grow, only to have a non-contributing member cause conflicts and *never* listen to any advice that you provide?  Just think about it Kona.  It would be appreciated if you would stop and think prior to pushing the "submit" button.  I don't think that is an unreasonable request.

It's kinda funny to see "Stardock" get so worked up about someone. Humm, I wonder if I sent them a "warning" would it have any effect?




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Jafo, A.D.D. causes the complete oppsite in most instances, once you do make the choice you have to grasp onto it with dear life or it slips away for a bit...

anyway...

Reading and working Driven to Distraction can help....