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Start11 Beta .55 Update Issue Report Thread

Start11 Beta .55 Update Issue Report Thread

With the Start11 .55 beta update release today, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining the update:

Object Desktop members can get the beta from within Object Desktop Manager with 'show beta downloads' enabled:

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page:

https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

Reporting an issue:

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)
  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen
  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive services (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube) and link included in your post.  Images can be directly added.
  • If there are specific apps that Groupy does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 a better product.

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Reply #26 Top
Quoting Neil, reply 25

Does the same happen if you do not have Start11 installed?

I ask as the taskbar is blurred without Start11 too and I suspect this is an OS level problem rather than something specific to Start11.

A low end graphics card is a possible reason if it struggles with the blur.

End of Neil's quote

 

It doesn't seem to happen once I uninstall Start 11, I'm also using an RTX 2070 Super so I don't think it's caused by a weak GPU at least in my case.

I should have also noted that the only thing that slows is the mouse input, anything else running at the time continues running in the background without issue.

 
Reply #27 Top

I don't recall seeing this in Beta 0.5, but it's in 0.55.
A minor typo. 👇

Reply #28 Top

Quoting ProtocolX, reply 27

I don't recall seeing this in Beta 0.5, but it's in 0.55.
A minor typo. 👇


End of ProtocolX's quote

Is this when right clicking on the start menu or in explorer?

Reply #29 Top

Less of a bug report, more of a wishlist.

The ability to ungroup the icons would be awesome.  In Win10 we were able to set the taskbar to ungroup icons until the taskbar was full.  Can Start11 enable that in Win11 since the overlords at MS have taken it away from us?

Reply #30 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 28


Quoting ProtocolX,

I don't recall seeing this in Beta 0.5, but it's in 0.55.
A minor typo. 👇



Is this when right clicking on the start menu or in explorer?

End of Neil's quote

It's when right clicking on any app from the right hand shortcuts pop out menus of Start11, such as Recent Items, Universal Applications, Windows Tools or I think any other menu enabled (Display as a menu) in the Start Menu > Configure > Places List.

Please let me know if you need any more information.

Reply #31 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 23

The second issue should not be the case.  Is this a primary or secondary monitor?
End of Neil's quote

This is on my primary monitor. As stated this might actually be windows fault. As I used a regkey hack to get the Taskbar to the Top.
Window preview do not work on mouseover as they are shown above the Taskbar even when the Taskbar is at the top. This might also be the case for the Start11 menu.

 
Reply #32 Top
September 5, 2021 5:42:47 PM 
 

Windows Start Menu 11  v 0.55

Hi 

Is the ability to change the start button icon ( not its position ) , a change on the cards for this version  , as in properties of  Start 10 ?

The default Microsoft blue icon is a bit bland !

 

Hi 

Am I missing a reply  ??

Reply #33 Top

Quoting seschwarz, reply 32

Bug on Start11, beta .55, Windows 11:

Start11 menu isn't shown on secondary monitor
End of seschwarz's quote

hmmm, I was able to reproduce that... Bugged it internally.. Ty for the rerport.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

Reply #35 Top

Quoting Compexpert, reply 35

Is this a duff question  or what ???
End of Compexpert's quote

Sorry for the late reply, but, I just checked, I believe your question was answered while in Beta 0.5 before. Refer to the link below.

https://forums.stardock.com/506221/get;3815378

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Reply #37 Top

Win 10 21H1 Build 10.0.19043.1202

I'm seeing an issue where mousing over the items in the right-hand side places list (when configured to 'Display as Menu') only about first 80% of the menu items are accessible. This is regardless of the length of the menu - eg a menu with12 items the mouse reaches 10 of them.

The mouse highlight cursor stops highlighting at the item that's ~80% - they are also not selectable by the mouse (scrolling with arrow keys works). 

Pls refer video in this link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lqVJw8j7IRIlHujLDqEDOJGtrAMhDLQq/view?usp=sharing

Reply #38 Top

On the Beta all new apps are highlighted and I can't find a setting to turn it off like I could in Start10.

Reply #39 Top

Quoting Chris, reply 38

Win 10 21H1 Build 10.0.19043.1202

I'm seeing an issue where mousing over the items in the right-hand side places list (when configured to 'Display as Menu') only about first 80% of the menu items are accessible. This is regardless of the length of the menu - eg a menu with12 items the mouse reaches 10 of them.

The mouse highlight cursor stops highlighting at the item that's ~80% - they are also not selectable by the mouse (scrolling with arrow keys works). 

Pls refer video in this link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lqVJw8j7IRIlHujLDqEDOJGtrAMhDLQq/view?usp=sharing
End of Chris's quote

I cant seem to reproduce what you are seeing:

https://cdn.stardock.us/support/uploads/2021-09-14_09-44-09.mp4

I wonder if a purge and reinstall is in order:

https://forums.stardock.com/486022/start10-support-faq#reinstalling

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

Reply #40 Top

Quoting sdRohan, reply 40


Quoting Chris TH,

Win 10 21H1 Build 10.0.19043.1202

I'm seeing an issue where mousing over the items in the right-hand side places list (when configured to 'Display as Menu') only about first 80% of the menu items are accessible. This is regardless of the length of the menu - eg a menu with12 items the mouse reaches 10 of them.

The mouse highlight cursor stops highlighting at the item that's ~80% - they are also not selectable by the mouse (scrolling with arrow keys works). 

Pls refer video in this link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lqVJw8j7IRIlHujLDqEDOJGtrAMhDLQq/view?usp=sharing



I cant seem to reproduce what you are seeing:

https://cdn.stardock.us/support/uploads/2021-09-14_09-44-09.mp4

I wonder if a purge and reinstall is in order:

https://forums.stardock.com/486022/start10-support-faq#reinstalling

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

End of sdRohan's quote

Hi Sean,

OK it appears to be intermittent or caused by some other setting/app because since shutting down the PC last night and starting it again this morning the issue has disappeared.

I'll try and take note of what may initiate the problem if it occurs again.

Cheers,
Chris.

Reply #41 Top

Why Start11 works only on Win 11 ? I install trial on Win 10 19044.1202 and its dosent work.

Reply #42 Top

Quoting Robert84MK, reply 42

Why Start11 works only on Win 11 ? I install trial on Win 10 19044.1202 and its dosent work.
End of Robert84MK's quote

What error or issue you got when running Start11 on Windows 10? BTW, is that an insider build for Windows 10?

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Reply #43 Top

Quoting basj, reply 43


Quoting Robert84MK,

Why Start11 works only on Win 11 ? I install trial on Win 10 19044.1202 and its dosent work.



What error or issue you got when running Start11 on Windows 10? BTW, is that an insider build for Windows 10?

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

End of basj's quote

 

No error, but Start11 its not changing anything.

Reply #44 Top

Quoting Chris, reply 41


Quoting sdRohan,






Quoting Chris TH,



Win 10 21H1 Build 10.0.19043.1202

I'm seeing an issue where mousing over the items in the right-hand side places list (when configured to 'Display as Menu') only about first 80% of the menu items are accessible. This is regardless of the length of the menu - eg a menu with12 items the mouse reaches 10 of them.

The mouse highlight cursor stops highlighting at the item that's ~80% - they are also not selectable by the mouse (scrolling with arrow keys works). 

Pls refer video in this link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lqVJw8j7IRIlHujLDqEDOJGtrAMhDLQq/view?usp=sharing



I cant seem to reproduce what you are seeing:

https://cdn.stardock.us/support/uploads/2021-09-14_09-44-09.mp4

I wonder if a purge and reinstall is in order:

https://forums.stardock.com/486022/start10-support-faq#reinstalling

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager



Hi Sean,

OK it appears to be intermittent or caused by some other setting/app because since shutting down the PC last night and starting it again this morning the issue has disappeared.

I'll try and take note of what may initiate the problem if it occurs again.

Cheers,
Chris.

End of Chris's quote

I think I've found the cause of the issue - it seems to occur on the *first* login to our corporate network (whether remotely via VPN or direct connection in the office). Logging into corporate applies some group policies etc but I don't have access to those so can't examine what's in them. It also means various corporate remote management utilities become active: Matrix42 & Dameware Mini Remote Control being the main ones.

When first reported I was working from home and had made (then disconnected) a VPN session. Today I'm in the office and on first startup the issue was there, but Groupy wanted an update and after rebooting Start11 is fine (though I'm still on the corporate net).

Probably an extreme corner-case but hope it helps...

Reply #45 Top

Quoting Robert84MK, reply 42

Why Start11 works only on Win 11 ? I install trial on Win 10 19044.1202 and its dosent work.
End of Robert84MK's quote

There is no current trial of Start11.

Reply #46 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 46


Quoting Robert84MK,

Why Start11 works only on Win 11 ? I install trial on Win 10 19044.1202 and its dosent work.



There is no current trial of Start11.

End of Neil's quote

 

Then why i use trial ? I download beta Start11 and active trial on Windows 10 and Windows 11.

Reply #47 Top

I'm using the beta 0.55 for Win11 (22000.194) but I can't change the language. I need it in spanish if possible. Any chance? :|  

Reply #48 Top

Quoting eljoku, reply 48

I'm using the beta 0.55 for Win11 (22000.194) but I can't change the language. I need it in spanish if possible. Any chance? :|  
End of eljoku's quote

Translated versions should be available with version 1.0

Translating the betas isn't cost effective as UI design changes too much which means more things to translate.

Reply #50 Top

I have the same issue, and did on version .5. There is no way in Settings to replace the Start11 icon. I have a good Windows XP start button I like to use, among others, and can't.