New icons being placed behind fences

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For ages I have been having issue with new icons being placed behind fences. Finally pushed myself to post about this. Here's an example https://i.imgur.com/Qk5v5bC.png

I used to have 2 and then 3 and now 5 display setup. As far as I can remember it has been happening in all cases. Current Fences version (latest) is 3.0.9.11 used on Windows 10 Pro v1903, build 18362.295.

Any idea how to fix this? 

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Reply #1 from Stardock Forums Top

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. The easiest way to do it is to create a Temporary/Bucket Fence and set Fences Rule for that fence. Set it so that all new icons/program to go that Fence.

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

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Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top

Ok. That's a workaround. But why is this happening? Fences app is aware of icons and fences locations, why not just place icon in open space on main screen?

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Reply #3 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting voldemarz, reply 2

Ok. That's a workaround. But why is this happening? Fences app is aware of icons and fences locations, why not just place icon in open space on main screen?
End of voldemarz's quote

Hello,
I have forwarded your questions/problems to the Stardock Support team for their assistance. Please keep an eye on this thread for any updates. We appreciate you feedback and patience.

Thank You,
Basj
Stardock Community Assistant.

Reply #4 from Stardock Forums Top

Concerning this issue; i am not able to configure the "set Fences Rule for a fence." as i am not able to choose a fence (as "as new icons as the first icon  in the targeted fence" is greyed)

How to solve?

Reply #6 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting koenswiggers, reply 4

Concerning this issue; i am not able to configure the "set Fences Rule for a fence." as i am not able to choose a fence (as "as new icons as the first icon in the targeted fence" is greyed)

How to solve?
End of koenswiggers's quote

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. But not really sure on "(as "as new icons as the first icon in the targeted fence" is greyed)". Please post a screenshot on it.

Thanks

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

Reply #7 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting voldemarz, reply 2

Ok. That's a workaround. But why is this happening?
End of voldemarz's quote
If you have the fence in the upper left corner, that is where Windows puts icons by default.  So this is normal, IF that is the case.  Basj's workaround is the way to go.

Reply #8 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting RedneckDude, reply 7


Quoting voldemarz,
reply 2

Ok. That's a workaround. But why is this happening?

If you have the fence in the upper left corner, that is where Windows puts icons by default.  So this is normal, IF that is the case.  Basj's workaround is the way to go.

End of RedneckDude's quote

I do have fence in upper left corner. But why is this not being fixed? Fences knows about location of fences and and icons. Why not adjust location of those new icons so that they are not behind fences? 

Reply #9 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting voldemarz, reply 8

Why not adjust location of those new icons so that they are not behind fences? 
End of voldemarz's quote
It's a Microsoft thing.  I dunno, maybe Stardock can't change that. Some stuff is hard coded by MS.

Reply #10 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting basj, reply 3


Quoting voldemarz,
reply 2

Ok. That's a workaround. But why is this happening? Fences app is aware of icons and fences locations, why not just place icon in open space on main screen?



Hello,
I have forwarded your questions/problems to the Stardock Support team for their assistance. Please keep an eye on this thread for any updates. We appreciate you feedback and patience.

Thank You,
Basj
Stardock Community Assistant.

End of basj's quote

Any response on that?

Reply #11 from Stardock Forums Top

Icons showing up behind a Fence only happens with a roll up Fence:

https://cdn.stardock.us/support/uploads/2019-09-20_16-41-30.mp4

And it not unexpected behavior.

Non-roll-up, it should work as such:

https://cdn.stardock.us/support/uploads/2019-09-20_16-44-27.mp4

If you are seeing it for non-rollup frences, please try a purge and reinstall:

https://forums.stardock.com/486084/fences-support-faq#reinstalling

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

Reply #12 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting sdRohan, reply 11

Non-roll-up, it should work as such:

https://cdn.stardock.us/support/uploads/2019-09-20_16-44-27.mp4

If you are seeing it for non-rollup frences, please try a purge and reinstall:

https://forums.stardock.com/486084/fences-support-faq#reinstalling

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager
End of sdRohan's quote

 

I have non-rollup fences. I don't think I have seen this issue with files created via "New" context menu. I think it's always been with newly installed program shortcuts. 

To test with newly crated files I wanted to disable previously configured rules that all new icons go to predefined fences. I disabled it, but they still ended up in that fence. Tried disabling/enabling Fences, still the same. The removed that fences and was able to test with files from "New" context menu. Didn't see the issue, files were places where I had opened the menu.

So, it appears there's also an issue with applying the "new icons" rule change to fences.

I now tried to install Opera Browser to see where icon gets placed. It ended up at intersection of 4 displays. Here's screenshot https://i.imgur.com/Tqcp1ZM.jpg

Not behind fences, but in seemingly random location.

Reply #13 from Stardock Forums Top

I've been using Fences for at least a decade. Up until recently (I think it was when I finally went to Windows 10 20H2, I skipped 2004 and maybe 1909) desktop icons ALWAYS wrapped around a fence. New or existing. As soon as a program installed, the icon popped up to the right of the upper left fence and scooted everything else over, never under a fence and invisible which is definitely the case now.

Any time you dragged a fence to a different location, the icons on the desktop always moved out from under them, but that doesn't work anymore either. I know MSFT created the problem, but it would be awesome to see it working again if possible.

Reply #14 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting admiralshaw, reply 13

I've been using Fences for at least a decade. Up until recently (I think it was when I finally went to Windows 10 20H2, I skipped 2004 and maybe 1909) desktop icons ALWAYS wrapped around a fence. New or existing. As soon as a program installed, the icon popped up to the right of the upper left fence and scooted everything else over, never under a fence and invisible which is definitely the case now.

Any time you dragged a fence to a different location, the icons on the desktop always moved out from under them, but that doesn't work anymore either. I know MSFT created the problem, but it would be awesome to see it working again if possible.
End of admiralshaw's quote

What version of Windows ( full numbered version ) use winver.exe for that info

What version of Fences ?

Report back please .

Reply #15 from Stardock Forums Top

Wondering if there's any update to this issue.  After decades of a cluttered desktop, I finally installed Fences (still on trial), and having icons not move around fences is definitely a frustrating behavior.

I certainly do not see the behavior from this video listed earlier on the thread years ago:

https://cdn.stardock.us/support/uploads/2019-09-20_16-41-30.mp4

Instead the icon is obscured by the fence when the fence is moved.

This is on 2 of my computers, running Windows 7 Pro (Version 6.1 Build 7601: Service Pack 1) and Windows 10 (Version 20H2, Build 19042.1348).

On the Win 7 computer, I have multiple monitors.  On the Win10 computer, it is a single monitor.  So I do not think a multiple monitors desktop is causing the issue.

Also, whenever a new file is downloaded and created on the desktop, it takes the spot in the 2nd row, 1st column, and shoves any icons that were there to the right.  Normal Windows behavior is to put the new icon in the first column, first open spot down.

Reply #16 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Fence-one, reply 15

Wondering if there's any update to this issue.  After decades of a cluttered desktop, I finally installed Fences (still on trial), and having icons not move around fences is definitely a frustrating behavior.

I certainly do not see the behavior from this video listed earlier on the thread years ago:

https://cdn.stardock.us/support/uploads/2019-09-20_16-41-30.mp4

Instead the icon is obscured by the fence when the fence is moved.

This is on 2 of my computers, running Windows 7 Pro (Version 6.1 Build 7601: Service Pack 1) and Windows 10 (Version 20H2, Build 19042.1348).

On the Win 7 computer, I have multiple monitors.  On the Win10 computer, it is a single monitor.  So I do not think a multiple monitors desktop is causing the issue.

Also, whenever a new file is downloaded and created on the desktop, it takes the spot in the 2nd row, 1st column, and shoves any icons that were there to the right.  Normal Windows behavior is to put the new icon in the first column, first open spot down.
End of Fence-one's quote

Please try:

https://forums.stardock.com/486084/fences-support-faq#cleanboot

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager