Please improve ship management

For some reason, you have to have to hold shift in order to select multiple ships. This happens when you try to select multiple ships in a fleet in open space, orbiting a planet, or managing fleets. I'm not sure how many players will think of using shift to select multiple ships, but I think it would be better if you didn't have to. I don't think you should have to learn a trick to do something that basic.

The game should allow you select multiple ships by just clicking the ships. You click on a ship a second time if you want to deselect it.

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"I'm not sure how many players will think of using shift to select multiple ships,"

I think using shift-click to select multiple units is probably the most natural choice. In order to select multiple files on a desktop for example, one uses shift click... additionally most RTS games I've played also utilize this behavior. Personally I would be very annoyed by having to manually deselect a ship every time I need to make a new ship command for a different fleet and I'm very rarely needing to control multiple fleets/ships in open space.

I'm not trying to say your idea of changing this doesn't have merit... but I do think that your title for this post is misleading. This particular aspect of the game isn't "broken" in needing of "fixing" it just doesn't function as you personally would prefer.

Your essentially asking for additional control customization. 

 

Reply #2 Top

Well, the game doesn't seem to use it right. Shift+click when used with files will not only select both files, but it will also select all files in between. Ctrl+click is what you use for selecting multiple individual files 1 at a time.

As for 'fixing' it, I figured that it would be easier to remove 'the feature' than to make it work right.

As for the title, what would you recommend? Sometimes I have trouble with naming threads.

Reply #3 Top

Some options:

Feature Request: multi ship selection

"Shift clicking" - could be better?

What the Shift? My issues with multi ship selection.

 

I'm sorry if I over reacted a little to your post title... It's not a big deal... The negativity on this forum waxes and wanes so I'm often looking to stamp down on hyperbole.

 

I do think there's a issue with selection of ships in orbit. Making shift click work to select everything "in between" would certainly help. 

 

Reply #4 Top

I don't see the problem. Shift and/or Control are used in many applications beside Windows Explorer for the purpose of multiselection, and not in all cases there's the option to 'select everything between'. This is common Windows UI behavior.

I would in fact be surprised by the notion that I would have to press shift to avoid multiselecting! When I click on several ships in a row because it's hard to spot the one I want, I'd hate to have to unselect them all again, manually.

I can understand that, depending on the way you play, you may find not needing to use Shift more comfortable. I don't. A setting to choose how to handle this would be acceptable. But it's definitely not 'broken' as it is right now.

Reply #5 Top

OK. I changed the title of the thread from please fix to please improve... That should annoy less people.

Reply #6 Top

I will see if we can implement a shift and ctrl clicking solution.

Reply #7 Top

OK. Thanks.

I was just playing some different games recently and had a different experience. I didn't need to hold shift or anything else to select multiple ships. I thought that GalCiv 3 would benefit from a simplier UI.

Could you also include ctlr+a for selecting all ships?