Overcoming Music CD Protection?

You'll probably find that the protection is done at a hardware level rather than through software. I could be wrong though.

One of mine worked in the DVD drive

http://www.thetartan.org/97/16/scienceandtechnology/2914.asp might be helpful. It use to be if you recorded a CD on your computer, you couldn't play it in the car, home stereo system, etc. and there was a work around (sorry, just can't remember what it was). Maybe if someone comes up with it you can do the reverse and get it to play. I have to say I agree with grayhaze that it's a hardware issue... I just can't imagine that they would lock out computer CD players, but as in everything else..who knows...........

http://news.com.com/2009-1023-273619.html

Just remember, guys...no links to methods of voiding copy protection.
No different to linking to warez...

Good point wise one

#5 by Jafo - 4/30/2003 4:17:26 PM
Just remember, guys...no links to methods of voiding copy protection.
No different to linking to warez...



What if I say something involving a marker? A simple search wouldn't hurt mooshoo .

oh yes... I think I've heard about these new markers you speak of now that you mention it
interesting article, too, thanks for the help

(leave it to jafo to ruin the fun )

I'm not trying to ruin the fun...it's just that issues of copy protection are understandably 'sensitive' here, when you consider the problems that both Stardock and other program makers encounter with warez, and each and every artist and skinner faces with 'ripping', etc...

If you need to discuss which marker pen is best, and how to use it, it'd be best done off-site.
BTW...that 'method' probably doesn't work with all CD protections, as various vers are used...

aww.. I was just kidding jafo, what would we be without you?

and yeah I don't think I'm going to risk anything that might end up damaging the product in the end.

Did the cd state on the outside of the jewl case that it couldn't be played in a pc cd-rom drive?

Sure, there're always ways to get around it. Read up on patching your Hardware. Read up on it though, and make sure you know what you're doing. If you break the drive in any way while patching it, the warrantly on it voids.

Oh, and if you're asking Jafo on "can I talk about it by side-stepping?" The answer is no. It should be written big, bold, and black on the site somewhere so people can see, but it's not, so...

Don't bring controversial topics here by yourself. You'll get the prep talk.

This may not be what you are looking for but if you have a CD player (not PC but stereo system) with audio outs, run them into your PC sound inputs with a patchcord.

Just Think about it, where would these music decision makers (you know the ones that put this protection on them) be if it wasn't for us people buying their cd's, they wouldn't be in bussiness. I have in the past bought upward of 30 music cd's a year, I'm very much into music of any kind and I feel that's a lot of money in their pocket. granted not enough to keep the industry afloat but a lot. Well this year I got my self a good sound card, a couple monster patch cords to tap into my stereo system and when I hear a song I like, I call the radio station make a request to hear it played (most times they love to play requests)and record it off the radio and at that point it's digital, any way my point is this if we the little people boycotted the music industry and not buy their CD's they would rethink their stratagy real fast.

Roger...the licence the radio station is granted to publicly broadcast a song does not include or extend to its subsequent recording. That is outside the scope of the station's licence and therefore any issue of copyright infraction is down to you, personally.

It's OK to be the 'little people', just don't encumber yourself with 'little minded' thinking...

Jafo,
You are 100% correct and I understand what you are saying, and as a moraly and legaly abiding human being I agree, I purchase software to be used by me on equipment I am the only user of and would not think of stealing anyones livelyhood, this goes for any industry and their offsprings including the music industry. I do belive that if I buy a music cd, that if I want to play it in my stereo system or play it on my computer solely for my enjoyment or use upto and including backups for archival use (old music disapears after awhile and you can't get them any more) so ripping to save as archival use in my opinion should be ok. I understand there are pirates out there but If the music industry wants to stop transmittle of ripped music over the internet get with some of the master programers out there and come up with a filter inbedded in the tracks that would transfer over to a ripped mp3 file to prevent it from being transfered over the internet. I hope you guys don't think I'm some kinda hack or putting anyone group or person down as I'm not trying to do that and am sorry if it sounds like that. As you know, locks and copy protection are only for honest people anyway. if theres a lock or block theres a hacker out there that will overcome it, and sadly we pay in the long run. Let me get off my soap box now and say see ya and thanks for listening to me ramble.
Roger

You realize that the price you pay on the cd, less than 20% of it goes to the artist, right? Who's stealing whose livelihood? Us or the IRAA?

Roger....it's a common occurrence...the recording of radio....and I think is generally ignored in itself. Any subsequent distribution or broadcast of the recording would not be, though, as that is the same as the Internet distribution of ripped MP3 files....

Elfie...that is a hopeless argument. One way or another, the artist 'agrees' with the amount he gets...via contract.
With MP3 'distribution' online the artist gets absolutely ZIP.

Copy protected CD's is going to hurt the radio business. I work for the largest chain of stations in Canada and at the HQ in Toronto we convert all CD's that come thru the door into ... you guessed it MP3 and MP2 formats... not only that but we re encode our broadcasting for the internet into MP3 once again so that it streams quickly with no need to Pre Cache. If we can't rip the CD's we get for on air play they will not make it on air.

Not only that but most copy protection formats used reduce the quality of the music which in turn has forced Sony and Phillips the owners of the Compact Disc patent to refuse music publishers to emblazen their discs with the CD logo.
Seeing that the music that can not be ripped will not make it on the air at our stations that also will hurt the artists.

The idea of including CDA and MP3 versions of the music on a CD is possibly the solution...where the relevant format is accessible by the appropriate hardware....

here here! thats using your noggin!

Sony's screwed themselves over with protection too... They released a Celine Dion CD that crashed conmputers and was unplayable even in some of their own drives...

CDA and MP3 on a CD is a bad idea for copy protection... it's just a rip-able as a regular CD, and would raise cost of production just a tad for the time spend getting the music into MP3 format (no label is dumb enough to record in it initially)

on a side, if you want to get you music fix even if you drive won't read it, you can get a nice little program to extract the CD image and mount it with a drive-image tool... It doesn't bypass the cd-protection because you're accessing the drive using normal means, just not reading it as an audio CD (most extractors do a byte-for-byte read) I like alcohol 120% and daemon tools

The only way to prevent ripping of the tracks, would be to make them unplayable on equipment that can rip (computers, some stereos, etc...) Tool's Lateralus won't even go from my stereo to my minidisc player because of a protection scheme (anti-optical output)

But...

preventing playback on certain equipment is a bad PR issue for labels, so it's a f___ed if you do, f___ed if you don't.

My opinion is that I own the CD, I get to listen to it my way... mp3, minidics, tape, etc... I supported the artist, now I could go for some support... btw, for peopel who need help getting support, feel free to contact me...

I'm not suprised Celine Dion is unplayable...