WB skinning question

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I'm sorry to disturb the board with my idiotic question but I'm going a little bit crazy with trying to find a way to do this...

Is there a way to make your top window frame image (the main one with the title text and buttons etc.) look consistent when you minimize the size manually with your cursor? I notice my skin gets cut-off looking towards the upper left when sized at its smallest window size and I'm disgusted with myself because I can't figure out how to fix this.

Thank you to anyone who can help. And if you can't thank you for reading this anyhow, I'll keep trying my best.

***Peace***
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Reply #1 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Do you mean when you rollup the window? If so under window borders, in the "miscellaneous options" section there is an attribute called "rollup window height" change this to the sum of the height of the top and bottom frames. ex. if the top of the window is 32 pix high and the bottom is 4, you want to set the rollup height to 36 and it should look right. Hope that helps
Reply #2 from WinCustomize Forums Top
No, but thank you. I mean...when you...ack...how do you say? Uh. Scootch the window closed horizontally to it's smallest size possible? And some skinners do a flawless job of incorporating the upper bar into itself at even the smallest window size.

This is hard for me to explain as you see
Star Control: Origins
Reply #4 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Hard for me to understand as well I would say you want to mess with the margins in skinstudio, probably the top and bottom ones
Reply #5 from WinCustomize Forums Top
If I'm still off maybe you could post a pic of what it's doing?
Reply #6 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I have but the margins only seem to effect how the actual image is stretched/tiled but I don't know if there is a way to control how the upper taskbar looks when at it's smallest size...like if you can control that? Or perhaps an image mask is needed or an alternat image for the upper left taskbar when sized down so that it still looks good and consistent rather than cut off like a piece of cardboard sizing into itself.

This is getting harder and harder to explain the harder I try.

Thank you so much for trying to help me, knatzz. Any and all input is always appreciated.
Reply #8 from WinCustomize Forums Top
try putting the left and right margins a bit higher maybe that will work? I'm just guessing here.
Reply #11 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Ok, here's my explaination, the bar stretches the image to wherever the margins are set, the right side I believe takes presidence ove the left, and when the window gets too small to include everything, it will just display what it can usually the right side with the buttons, I don't think there is a way around this, but post that screen and name some other skins as examples so I know if I am on the right track
Reply #12 from WinCustomize Forums Top
IF you want you can email me the pic, or look me up on MSN conatser@msu.edu and I'll see if I can be more help
Reply #13 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Yikes. I would if my skin wasn't crashing...the code checks out in skinstudio but now it can't load so something is amiss. AHHHHHHH. Believe me, you don't want this skin crashing your system.

Well, now I'm glad I make backup copies. Blech! I'm gonna have to find out what the prob is.
Reply #14 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I know why it's doing that, i've been through it, if you set your margins to overlap on the titlebar, then the skin will crash, I've seen this first hand
Reply #15 from WinCustomize Forums Top
THAT WAS IT...geez...you just saved me so many headaches! knatzz I owe you BIG TIME NOW!

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Man, whatta dumb mistake too. I didn't even see it!
Reply #17 from WinCustomize Forums Top
You may rise, my friend I'm glad I could help ya out of a bind cause I know what it's like to be there. good luck on the skin, I'll be waiting to see how it turns out and if I can answer anthing else for ya I'd be glad to. (us skinners have to stick together, ya know!)
Reply #18 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Thank you so much, knatz...REALLY and TRULY.

Yes, we must stick together...I'm not quite skinner status yet but I'm trying.


I'm so in awe of all the skinners here that I feel kinda lowly and pathetic but I'm making slow progress.
Reply #19 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Hey, I'm a noob, for the record. I said skinner for lack of a better term, not meaning it as a title like some folks have. I'd say us noobs have to stick together but we don't cause the great ones around here (they know who they are) always help when they can. Ya know, I think I've learned just as much from lurking on this site as I have from reading books on the subject. (knatzz stands up on a table in the middle of the room like a drunken fool and thanks the entire sight in a cheesey dramatic scene that embarasses everyone present)