Immersive Control Panel ?

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While patiently waiting for a couple of promised fixes to Start 10 - including the 1.01 Beta version that keeps telling me there's an update available - that is the same file I have installed - I noticed something very strange.

 

On the right side, my nice little display of things like 'Control Panel', 'Settings', etc. had suddenly changed to 'Control Panel', "Immersive Control Panel'.  I gotta' ask, what happened to 'Settings' as a title.  When I click on it it, it goes to 'Settings'.  Why rename it 'Immersive Control Panel' in the title?  Can I get the title back to 'Settings' myself?

 

Thanks,

Chuck

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Reply #1 from Stardock Forums Top

I would also like to know this! On one computer it is listed as "Instellingen" (Dutch for Settings) and on my other computer it is named "Immersive Control Panel". Both are running the same version of Start10. It seems kind of random to give different names. I would also like to be able to alter the name manually!

Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top

Did you delete a shortcut from the all programs list for the settings control panel?

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Reply #3 from Stardock Forums Top

Hey PerfectLight, I'm glad someone else wrote in.  Tech Support (Sean) doesn't really believe me that it happened.  They're sort of blaming me for it.

And, yes, I have the 'Settings' shortcut in 'All Programs'.

 

Chuck

Reply #4 from Stardock Forums Top

Just wanted to say I was curious about this as well. Mine says Immersive Control Panel as well. Started since it randomly changed when I was on 1.01. (It started off as Settings then logged in one day and it had changed to Immersive Control Panel, and has been that way ever since. And yes before you asked, ive re-installed Start 10 and that made no difference.

 

Settings has also changed to Immersive Control Panel in 'All Programs' for me as well.

Reply #5 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Mystical86, reply 4

Just wanted to say I was curious about this as well. Mine says Immersive Control Panel as well. Started since it randomly changed when I was on 1.01. (It started off as Settings then logged in one day and it had changed to Immersive Control Panel, and has been that way ever since. And yes before you asked, ive re-installed Start 10 and that made no difference.

 

Settings has also changed to Immersive Control Panel in 'All Programs' for me as well.
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That's the issue then.

The shortcut on the right hand side is a shortcut to that link and it will use the name of that.

The name of that is controlled by the OS, so it sounds like there may be an OS bug which is causing the shortcut to lose the translated name it uses sometimes (Immersive Control Panel.lnk is the actual name of the file on the drive)  This would be outside the control of Start10.

However we can put in some code which if it sees it is called that simply use "Settings" as the label.

Reply #6 from Stardock Forums Top

The problem with just renaming is that, if you change the name in All Programs, Start10 is not able to find the link "Immersive Controlpanel.Ink" anymore and it changes the name of the link on the right panel to "Desktop" in my case.

Reply #7 from Stardock Forums Top

I would like to repeat a couple of things I said previously:

1. My 'Settings' link in 'All Programs' in named properly and working properly.  So that isn;t the issue with me.


2. I, too, get a non-functioning link called 'Desktop' if I don't have a link called 'Immersive Control Panel' in the Program Files (x86) Start10 folder.

3. My functioning link on the right called 'Settings' also mystically changed one day when I logged in.  It changed to 'Immersive Control Panel' and I've been unable to get 'Settings' back, no matter how many times I install/uninstall and purge Start10 from the registry.


Again, I have a perfectly good, functioning link called 'Settings' in 'All Programs'.  Yet, I still have the 'Immersive Control Panel' link on the right of the menu.  I can turn it on and off by configuring Start10 to display or not display 'Settings'.


Thanks,

Chuck

Reply #8 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting chuck4, reply 7

I would like to repeat a couple of things I said previously:

1. My 'Settings' link in 'All Programs' in named properly and working properly.  So that isn;t the issue with me.


2. I, too, get a non-functioning link called 'Desktop' if I don't have a link called 'Immersive Control Panel' in the Program Files (x86) Start10 folder.

3. My functioning link on the right called 'Settings' also mystically changed one day when I logged in.  It changed to 'Immersive Control Panel' and I've been unable to get 'Settings' back, no matter how many times I install/uninstall and purge Start10 from the registry.




Again, I have a perfectly good, functioning link called 'Settings' in 'All Programs'.  Yet, I still have the 'Immersive Control Panel' link on the right of the menu.  I can turn it on and off by configuring Start10 to display or not display 'Settings'.




Thanks,

Chuck

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If you right click on the settings link in the all programs list and click properties, what is the path to that shortcut?

Reply #9 from Stardock Forums Top

If I understood your question, the path listed in the 'Settings' shortcut in 'All Programs' is:

%windir%\System32\Control.exe


Thanks

Chuck

Reply #10 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting chuck4, reply 9

If I understood your question, the path listed in the 'Settings' shortcut in 'All Programs' is:

%windir%\System32\Control.exe




Thanks

Chuck

End of chuck4's quote

No the shortcut file itself rather than the target of the shortcut.

Reply #11 from Stardock Forums Top

Sorry.

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

Chuck

 

Reply #13 from Stardock Forums Top

Pete,

All I can say is for you to maybe start a new post to get the moderator's attention.  Or, start a Support Ticket.  I have received no help from either approach.  I believe the Stardock folks think I'm nuts. :grin:

(And so do most of my friends.  :D )

Good luck.

Chuck

Reply #14 from Stardock Forums Top

Update:  I installed Start10 V 1.05 and my "Immersive Control Panel" title is gone; being replaced by the proper title of "Settings".

All is well.  Thanks.

Chuck

Reply #15 from Stardock Forums Top

This happens to me too!  I add 'Settings' to the right-shortcut area and it appears as 'Desktop' with an false error message relating to immersive control panel when clicked.

 

I hope this bug is fixed as I use the Win10 Settings menu regularly and I have to use a manual shortcut on the taskbar as a workaround to this obvious BUG.

 

This bug first happened after upgrading Windows 10 to the big 1511 update last month. So it is most likely a change in Win10 that has triggered this bug.

Reply #16 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting sarahaviasoft, reply 15

This happens to me too!  I add 'Settings' to the right-shortcut area and it appears as 'Desktop' with an false error message relating to immersive control panel when clicked.

 

I hope this bug is fixed as I use the Win10 Settings menu regularly and I have to use a manual shortcut on the taskbar as a workaround to this obvious BUG.

 

This bug first happened after upgrading Windows 10 to the big 1511 update last month. So it is most likely a change in Win10 that has triggered this bug.
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Which version of Start10 are you using?

Have you deleted the settings link in all programs?

Reply #17 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Neil, reply 16

Which version of Start10 are you using?
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v1.0.7 (latest point release)

Have you deleted the settings link in all programs?
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I cannot find a Settings shortcut link in All Programs.  Do you think the start10 Settings shortcut refers back to an original one in All Programs?

Reply #18 from Stardock Forums Top
Quoting sarahaviasoft, reply 17
Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 16

Which version of Start10 are you using?



v1.0.7 (latest point release)

Have you deleted the settings link in all programs?



I cannot find a Settings shortcut link in All Programs.  Do you think the start10 Settings shortcut refers back to an original one in All Programs?

End of sarahaviasoft's quote

There should be one in all programs yes and we do link back to that one.

Reply #19 from Stardock Forums Top
[quote who="Neil Banfield" reply="18" id="3607267"

There should be one in all programs yes and we do link back to that one.
[/quote]

Wow.  Really??  That is a quick fix way of doing things, don't you think?

A shortcut sitting on another shortcut makes an unstable platform.  If (as in my case) the shortcut the program is balancing on is deleted then the program itself fails (as it has in my case). The professional way to implement calling the system's Settings window would be a direct call to Windows itself. How much of the Start10 software is written in this amateur way? And should I be concerned about start menu stablilty?

 

As a software engineer myself I would never build in a feature in an application that sat on top of a shortcut link that was user-deletable from an area that users consider their own domain to change (i.e. the All Programs area of the start menu). 

If such a feature was necessary I would consider it purdent to add a further option to reconstruct those shortcut links that the software relied upon rather than just let it fall over in the way Start10 does when a user-configurable link is deleted.

 

Wow, really??

 

Reply #20 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting sarahaviasoft, reply 19

Wow.  Really??  That is a quick fix way of doing things, don't you think?

A shortcut sitting on another shortcut makes an unstable platform.  If (as in my case) the shortcut the program is balancing on is deleted then the program itself fails (as it has in my case). The professional way to implement calling the system's Settings window would be a direct call to Windows itself. How much of the Start10 software is written in this amateur way? And should I be concerned about start menu stablilty?

 

As a software engineer myself I would never build in a feature in an application that sat on top of a shortcut link that was user-deletable from an area that users consider their own domain to change (i.e. the All Programs area of the start menu). 

If such a feature was necessary I would consider it purdent to add a further option to reconstruct those shortcut links that the software relied upon rather than just let it fall over in the way Start10 does when a user-configurable link is deleted.

 

Wow, really??

 
End of sarahaviasoft's quote

Ahh sorry I think you have misunderstood as I may not have been clear.

Start10 uses the default OS shortcut if it exists.  This is so it obtains the local language translation automatically regardless of language and in case Microsoft were to change the Universal app ID for control panel (which is always a risk).

In the event it does not exist it falls back to another route, but it seems in 1.07 this other route may have become broken and it is launching it as a non Universal app vs as a Universal app (it was working in 1.06 certainly).

We shall investigate further and release an update if we can reproduce this.

Reply #21 from Stardock Forums Top

Thanks very much for the explanation.  Glad to hear that Start10 is not tottering on shortcut files. ;)