Let's do a list of all programs which are not compatible with windowsblind

Don't know what problems you are having with IE 11 or WordPad, but they both work fine here on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 with any skin I apply using the latest version of Windowblinds.

If you are having problems with IE11 then I would suggest something is wrong with your install as that's not normal or expected.

The only one known from your list is FireFox 35 and this is fixed internally.

Hi,

Gimp and scantailor are loading .toolbar.menubar as .menubar . Guess inkscape has the same bug.

On linux it loads .menubar right and not .headerbar.menubar or .primary-toolbar.

Perhaps there is a way to let gtk/qt programs use  ..menubar insteadiof the silly .toolbar.menubar on windows.

Hope stardock find the time to fix this.

regards bluedxca93

That's not a bug, that's the app asking for toolbar image for menubars as they are fake menubars.

problem with install? with a fresh install? running without any errors? seems quite odd don't you think? Especially when the problem with only the stardock programs and not the theme that you can install with windows for example.... And since it happened before on several of my comptuers, guess it's quite not the installation.

OWW and I forgot Minecraft in the list too. (not the launcher, the game)

by the way, I don't mean to be disrespectful but as a dev myself I can remember my own courses about algorithm for example or C++ or Java, the software engineering is the only area of expertise where you can't garantee that it will work 100% . So we can argue during hours but the fact remains there are still too many people who are having problems with different programs  under different circumstances with stardock and I can bet my life on it that the source code lack in number of if.

google chrome has had an issue with windowblinds for a while now, were the top boarders are invisible, like the minimize maximize and close buttons.....

So, as you were trying to discredit what I was saying, I will show you.

here a little album of some of the problems. I have also uploaded screen from wordpad and internet explorer to show that it seems that it was a problem of refresh. So by applying several themes and then verify on internet explorer and wordpad, it seems that the problems are not persistent.

http://imgur.com/a/plo8u#0

one of the soft that you can see is Psi+, originally Psi software which is a jabber communication software... After that try to justify that windowsblinds have enough if to avoid these kind of situations.

I am sorry but your album does not seem to be visible here.  I think your link is broken?

This should not be the case with WB 8.06 or higher I believe.

link updated.

by the way i can't testify about google chrome in 32bits since I'm using the nightly version so the 64 bits but for the app launcher of chrome, i can testify that nearly each apps from this source don't have any title bar whatsoever. try allcast for example. I will post a screen later.

It's probably pertinent to note that 'a fresh install of windows' does NOT guarantee the install is free of issues in itself.....whether any programs are subsequently installed or not.

Perfect example.  My current machine had, and still has boot-loading issues to the point you usually need to cold boot 3 or 4 times before it'll actually work.

It's a genuinely high-end machine typically within the top 20 specs in the world.  And no, there are no exclamation marks in device manager.

Windows [it's 7 Ultimate 64bit] is not infallible.

When it comes to possible issues with a subsequently installed application you MUST consider there may be issues with either [or both] the OS Install AND the program install.

The fact that not everyone is having the same issues with several in your list should tell you your issue is specific to your machine state.

Yes, Mozilla seems to enjoy releasing new vers that break things already fixed thus requiring catch-up, but I can recall several others over the years who were  similarly ego-centric or just didn't care.

Here's a laugh for you.  Install Microsoft's FSX in Win 7 [IE9] and watch it CTD with a 'simple' update to IE10 or IE11 .  Even the OS designer can't get it right with it's own products...;)

I know but not when I can see the bug on several computers with differents devices and different instalaltions. Since it is when stardock make a change and not with the inside theme manager, it is probably one of the worst case scenario which is not ... how do we say that in english... coded in the software.

Of course it could be a driver problem or a bad exception between the onboard graphic and the NVIDIA graphic card for example... It could be many things, but do I need to quote Stroustrup? We need as dev, to make a case for all worst scenarios possible ... example: skin the window if it belongs to one of the list of the certified software for example... For virtualbox I can easily reproduce the bug on every of my 4 PC, even as windows 8.1 or windows 7

So...

No really I regret but if there is the slightest doubt about a program it would react as precaution by not skinning it for example.  And sorry but it is not random bugs that we speak about here... It is always the same and for several people, we just need to find the common thing between everyone of us... It's always a transparency problem of title bar so clearly it's something to dig in the code of the stardocks programs about it.

And I would really be interested by your boot loading problem ... Or it is because you overclocked in an non usual way your PC which is not my case

I will give you a big big extreme example. Yes Windows have generally problems in stability  and breach etc... Simple proof: Many people around the world have kernel panic or BSOD when running VM, even simple ones. It shouldn't happen because the Host system should prevent this kind of things.

But sometimes it can't. And it's true for windows as it is for linux because I had the case on debian 7.7 for example. Reason is that: even if virtualbox is a great program and free and opensource, there are inside of its code examples of bad programming. And these bad programming code are responsible of the crash of the Supervisor.... And it clearly should NOT happen because it is the whole reason to be for a virtulization software - to not contaminate the host system.

So yes even if there are bugs in windows, the software can prevent bad things to happen to the host.

My issue is likely a DDR4 problem or that my OS is on a M.2 card not a 'drive' as such....but it can also be a 'false negative' re drivers.

The difficulty developers always have with debugging is insufficient information re the equipment/installation or/and its rarity/inability to be reproduced.

Ignoring Mozilla [I'd never use the proggy because they're apparently inept and only reliable at breaking their skinning-ie a non-standard windows format], but IE11, Wordpad and KIS 'shouldn't' be an issue as generally they are not and I can't say I've noticed anything with VBox either.

The only solution is to provide Neil with as much pertinent information as possible - he [obviously] knows more about idiosyncrasies re Windowblinds than anyone...;)

yeeaaahh drivers... so responsability of the dev of the drivers for your things and yeah these controllers are often not well supported by motherboard. A lot of problems come from I/O controllers like SATA controllers. I have atm 2 mb from asrock in RMA because of that and the bad interaction of these controllers with virtualbox because they have beennot weel enough build.

Anyway IE and wordpad were non persistent problems, so shit cnan happen I can give some lack to the devs for that.

but for virtualbox and for Psi+ or Psi and sometimes for pidgin I have 3 Pc in the same case and with different OSes sooo...

DirectX already reinstalled several times just in case. Every game works so.... guess it's not that.

Many diffferents graphic cards but all NVIDIA EVGA 580GTX, 670GTX zotac, 970 GTX FTW EVGA. geforce experience installed. last nvidia drivers whql. Don't know what to say else. If at least I would know which librairies, dlls etc windowsblinds would call in their source code I could say what's rellated as hardware or software etc but as we don't have any kind of information about that...

for kaspersky it's a new version and it is not with the main window and kaspersky have in itself a skinner I think but even in this case windowsblind programming shouldn't affect or destroy or anything whatever the skinner of Kaspersky or any other software.

by the way on all of my Pc's with win 7, at each time I'm using a theme with windowsblind I have a thread of explorer at 12% usage of my I7 and if I don't kill it it duplicate sometimes with same usage on the next thread. any idea? And of course it come from stardock because it doesn't happen without it.

I had a look at these issues this morning and found the following :

Chrome seems to be working just fine.  I was worried when the latest canary build of chrome shows the crashed page screen, but it also shows it without WindowBlinds, so I can only assume they broke something.  Note that we do not support anyone using alpha software for obvious reasons.

IE and Wordpad are as you say fine.

Minecraft was being auto ignored due to the use of OpenGL.  This usually means a fullscreen game so we abort in that case, but you can set WB to override this.  Unfortunately being a Java app it doesn't have its own exe name, so we have modified it so WB will not auto exclude for OpenGL if the app is Java.

VirtualBox was a case of the process not being able to find our dll, but a small tweak has been made to provide a full path.  I cannot say why it and only it would be picky especially as the dll in question is in the OS system32 directory and thus should be in the path at all times.

Kaspersky total security appears to block us either by design or a due to some side effect of how they have implemented things.  I imagine this is a sandboxing system.  On Windows 8 it will use OS titlebars, on Windows 7 you will have none.

PSI+ looks fine and skins just fine here.

Regarding your cpu usage, do you have DeskScapes installed?  I ask as I know we have a report of similar with DeskScapes and a change was made for the next update of that, but I have never heard similar with WB and tests here did not show anything wrong.

You can add ZABKAT Windows xplorer2 to the list of programs not working with the  release WindowBlinds 8.09 - 64 bit OS.

explorer2 fails to load with this release of WB.

I would give up WB before I gave up ZABKAT explorer2

Are you using the 8.09 from before Christmas as that had some issues with some apps not starting?  We released an updated version in January which should have resolved that.

Having just checked here I see no problem with it loading so I suspect you have the older WB build.  The date in the about box should be 19th December 2014 for wblind.dll with the newer version.

Just a note, you can get the latest version from your Stardock account: http://download.stardock.com

So you don't have problems to the apps that's installed with chrome? Or you just discussed about chrome as browser?

For the Java apps can't we just exclude it? Or is there some apps that are working with windowsblinds?

For virtual box it should be working with 8.09? Or will it be in the future?  Because for me,  it will be a big ➕. Because I'm using a lot VMs so guessing the place of the button is a bit...  Well annoying .

For kaspeesky as I said,  it was not for the main window.  Just the settings window but I will Re verify with other themes maybe. Yes,  Desks capes is installed, will it be fixed soon?

Another question: is it possible that certain themes are responsible for some bugs of the transparencies of the title bars?

Sorry I will modify my post later for the space but I'm on my phone atm

Fixed for you...;)