Close, maximize, minimize, the whole bar is clear

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Not sure how to describe this one. This happens only with Firefox. Check the external link for a picture of the problem. The bar that should contain the close, maximize...etc. Is clear.  I can't see the close, maximize, etc. It doesn't matter what skin I use, and if I unload windowblinds, the problem goes away.

 

It really bites.

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That same problem exists in Chrome browser as well , but I refuse to go back to Internet Explorer. I'm hoping that perhaps some day they may find a remedy for it.     -- Ace --

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Quoting AceMatrix, reply 1

That same problem exists in Chrome browser as well , but I refuse to go back to Internet Explorer. I'm hoping that perhaps some day they may find a remedy for it.     -- Ace --
End of AceMatrix's quote

From the sounds of it you are using an older WB build as that's not a problem with Chrome that I am aware of.  You may need to uninstall, reboot and reinstall WB.

Regarding firefox, we have an update for that hopefully having QA testing next week.

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Just for the record, Chrome is fine here.

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Quoting Neil, reply 2

From the sounds of it you are using an older WB build as that's not a problem with Chrome that I am aware of.  You may need to uninstall, reboot and reinstall WB.
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Neil. Actually it is a problem with Chrome. I don't think it's a problem with WindowBlinds or SKS. What I have found out is all about how you position the buttons. If you position the buttons at the very top they work using Chrome. However they may be to high in the Explorer window. What I try to do is place them as high as I can in the Explorer window, especially when it is maxed. at least that way the buttons are visible in Chrome but the lower part of the button may be cut off a bit. The larger the buttons the more the problem becomes. I have gone to making a larger top frame and that helps.

So I would sum it up this way. Using Chrome the top part where the tabs are on is smaller in height then the Explorer top. Not sure you could actually do anything about that as it's the smaller height of the chrome window top versus the larger height of the Explorer top. 

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Quoting RedneckDude, reply 3

Just for the record, Chrome is fine here.
End of RedneckDude's quote

 

Chrome is fine here too.

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Forget about what I said above. I changed to Chrome themes and it's fine. Tried five different ones and all good. Maybe I had some wrong theme on it. Who knows it's fine again.

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Quoting DaveBax, reply 6

Forget about what I said above. I changed to Chrome themes and it's fine. Tried five different ones and all good. Maybe I had some wrong theme on it. Who knows it's fine again.
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Chrome Themes ? Where do I find that ?

EDIT: o.k. , never mind I found it. Wow , I learned something new today. In all the time I have been using Chrome, I never knew about the Themes thing , Problem solved !!

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This happens only with Firefox.
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If you go into the customize firefox settings and click the titlebar button to show the titlebar it fixes this issue

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Thanks "WinMonster2"

Yea we are all good to go. 

Neil forget the button situation as we have it figured out now. Get working on some updates for win 10. :grin:

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Quoting WinMonster2, reply 8

If you go into the customize firefox settings and click the titlebar button to show the titlebar it fixes this issue
End of WinMonster2's quote

Someone get him an extra beer! :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

Thanks, mate.

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Your Welcome   

I try to help when I can

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Taking up browser real estate  by adding the title bar isn't a fix. It's a work around. This 'fix' was posted in the original thread reporting this issue with Fire Fox.

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Quoting HeavyHemi, reply 12

Taking up browser real estate by adding the title bar isn't a fix
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Not everyone is worried about that 1/4 inch of space the title bar uses.

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Quoting Neil, reply 2


Quoting AceMatrix,

That same problem exists in Chrome browser as well , but I refuse to go back to Internet Explorer. I'm hoping that perhaps some day they may find a remedy for it.     -- Ace --



From the sounds of it you are using an older WB build as that's not a problem with Chrome that I am aware of.  You may need to uninstall, reboot and reinstall WB.

Regarding firefox, we have an update for that hopefully having QA testing next week.

End of Neil's quote

 

The issue is WindowBlinds for Windows 8.1, not Chrome.  Even with applying a custom Chrome, it doesn't always fix the issue.  If one continues to experience problems with Chrome or Firefox, they need to add chrome.exe and/or firefox.exe to the exclusion list within WindowBlinds settings.

 

Customizing the position of the titlebar buttons will cause issues in Windows 8.1.  It may show fine in explorer.exe, but there will exist issues within other window's titlebar buttons.  Thre reason for this is a poor WB integration with Windows 8.1's ability to adjust the font size for the Titlebar, which needs to be set at 14, otherwise clipping will occur. (The same poor integration causes some custom WB skin colors to revert back to stock Windows colors upon waking from sleep or hibernate, as well as causing font sizes to increase with each reapply of the WB skin. For example, setting all 5 custom font options to size 8 and the titlebar to 14, upon a reapply of the same skin, all the fonts set to 8 in CP - Display will increase in size with every subsequent WB skin apply.  This results in having to manually set the font sizes back to where they should be after every apply/reapply.)

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So where is the update for the Firefox issue, I pointed this bug out months ago to your tech support and they couldn't be bothered dealing with it back then either

 

Excluding Firefox does nothing to help

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On my PC Chrome is never skinned, no matter which nWB I use.  I don't have it excluded in the "per application" tab.    Should the WB frame and buttons be visible with Chrome?  I'm running the latest WB and Chrome versions on Win 7 64 bit.

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Chrome based browsers has its own skin design,so is Firefox,WB is hardly to skin/paint them. Yet,Firefox has one workarounds in here,if you haven't check it. 

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Chrome frames should skin.  They will not skin if you have the DWM disabled as Chrome then paints its own look rather than let the OS do it.  Scrollbars etc do not skin in Chrome as they have their own look.

Regarding the Firefox update, I believe this was in QA on Tuesday so I am hopeful it will be passed by them and released soon.  It had other changes other than the Firefox tweak, so it took a little longer than ideal.

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Quoting gevansmd, reply 16

On my PC Chrome is never skinned, no matter which nWB I use.  I don't have it excluded in the "per application" tab.    Should the WB frame and buttons be visible with Chrome?  I'm running the latest WB and Chrome versions on Win 7 64 bit.
End of gevansmd's quote

 

As Neil mentioned, the only part of Chrome that is skinnable is the title bar and window frame.  However, there is a bug in WB 8 that causes titlebar buttons to disappear on some chrome versions.  Titlebar buttons appear to work occasionally on Chrome Stable and on Chrome Beta; however, majority of the time, WB 8 will cause titlebar buttons on Chrome Canary and Chrome Dev to disappear.  

Now, the title bar buttons haven't  actually "disappeared", but WB 8's bug causes them to be placed hundreds of pixels above where they should be.  If you were to change the font size in Control Panel - Display to 8. you'd be able to see a small sliver of the bottom of the title bar buttons.  This does not occur on any other windows application (with exception to other issues with FireFox).  My guess is because Chrome and Firefox are based on a different programming language compared to other Windows applications and Stardock simply sees no need to correct a bug that affects two specific applications that (I could be wrong here) were developed for Linux and made compatible with Windows.

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What's odd is if I get a chrome popup window it is skinned properly.  Otherwise it gets the standard chrome frame and buttons regardless of what blind I have installed.

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Quoting gevansmd, reply 20

What's odd is if I get a chrome popup window it is skinned properly.  Otherwise it gets the standard chrome frame and buttons regardless of what blind I have installed.
End of gevansmd's quote

The only thing I can think of is perhaps Windows 7 has something to do with it.  I'm running 8.1 Pro, however if I get time, I'll try installing WB 8 in trial form on a Win 7 VM and see if I can replicate the issue.  

What version of Chrome are you running (Stable, Beta, Dev, or Canary) and what version number?

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Chrome 39.0.2171.71 m

 

Quoting jmonroe0914, reply 21


Quoting gevansmd,

What's odd is if I get a chrome popup window it is skinned properly.  Otherwise it gets the standard chrome frame and buttons regardless of what blind I have installed.



The only thing I can think of is perhaps Windows 7 has something to do with it.  I'm running 8.1 Pro, however if I get time, I'll try installing WB 8 in trial form on a Win 7 VM and see if I can replicate the issue.  

What version of Chrome are you running (Stable, Beta, Dev, or Canary) and what version number?

End of jmonroe0914's quote

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"Version 39.0.2171.95 m 
 
Google Chrome is up to date."
 
I'd suggest forcing an update.
 
 
As for Firefox? Mozilla won't skin. I suggest excepting it via "Per application".