Dealing with multiple cities unrest penalty on a huge map

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If you're reading this, then like me, you probably had the same headache dealing with multiple cities unrest penalty on a huge map.

I enjoy this game, and I'm a little obsessed with expanding my territory. So this is how I deal with unrest penalty in my games.  It's been working out great so far. I now capture every city I see, build new cities when I find good lands, and I don't have to worry about unrest penalty too much.

This is how it works.

Henchmen:

    If you play the Altairan race, or customize your own with the Altarian blood, then your Kingdom/Empire will gain the ability to acquire henchmen somewhere down the line in the Magic Technology Tree. These are like weaker version of champion heores, except **You** can decide what class you get. To me, I spend all my fames on training Commander classed henchmen instead of waiting around for random hero to spawn. 

Here're some tips get some quick freebie levels for your newly trained units:

1) Fortress gives all trained unit +1 Level

2) Don't use the default henchmen, design your own!  Make sure you click the Henchman tab in the creation interface so you are creating a henchman unit instead of a regular unit. Then go to the Trait section at the last page and pick the +1 Unit Level Option.

3) This is optional, but still useful. If you play our own created race, you can pick the "Warrior Caste" trait that will give all your trained unit +1 Level.

If you have at least two of the above, then as soon as your henchman is completed he can immediately pick Administrator I and II from the Commander Tree!  That's -10% from Administrator I, -15% from Administrator II, and the Commander class itself also gives a default -15% unrest to stationed city for a total of -40% unrest... per Henchman!

 

Naturally, you're going to need a lot of fame since each henchman will cost you 20 fame to train. Other than completing Quests, your major source of fame will be from building Almhouses (Level 3 or 4 city, I can't remember off the top of my head).

 

Have fun! And enjoy taking over the world!

 

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Reply #1 from Elemental Forums Top

I would invest in getting them to level 8 and getting -5 unrest for the entire empire if it is reasonably achievable.

That is what I do.  I get money traits with the other extra levels which lets the unit pay for itself and some others as well.

Reply #2 from Elemental Forums Top

There are lots of methods for human player. Train Henchmen, give Commander traits to heroes, be Noble and don't take unrest penalties from start and in game, improve Fortresses, lower rates, raze poor cities.

The main problem, is that AI doesn't pay any attention to these methods and can't handle unrest at all. That's why you always see poorly developed AI cities, producing something for 50+ turns. But this problem is moddable and AI lives fine on huge maps with lots of cities if you try Patchwork mod https://forums.elementalgame.com/450250/page/1/ The mod is already updated for compatibility with v.1.5. Garrisoned units reduce unrest and this helps AI greatly. AI has other additional bonuses to fight with unrest. What's the interest to play with dull AI?

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Reply #3 from Elemental Forums Top

Obviously there are many solutions, but here's my favorite..

I play a custom Undead faction with Rebels and Death Worship, preferably with Abundant shards on huge maps.  It's slow to get going, but Corruption first kickstarts and then supercharges Morrigan's Call.  With no real need for Towns and no wages for your army, you can spam Conclaves if you want a slow research driven strategy, or Fortresses to flood the world with cheap armies.  Since growth is magically driven, you won't have to rely on the diminishing returns of food surpluses to grow, and enjoy an ever growing rate as you collect shards.  By staying ahead of population limits by working towards necropoli ahead of time, you can quickly get Obsidian Thrones, which dramatically reduce Unrest.