[.80] Bug Collar that controls a twisted unit dissapears

What is a twisted unit?

from Elemental Forums

I just did a quest that gave me a collar that can control a twisted unit. I do not know what a twisted unit is, so i tried the collar on a random unit. It said that it did now work on this type of unit, but the collar disappeared anyway.

And what is a twisted unit, i think the description of the item should say that. 

16,065 views 11 replies
Reply #1 from Elemental Forums Top

Each unit belongs to a category. You can see it when you open the information window on a unit. There is no list of such creatures, but there is a logic to it. A twisted unit will be one of those monsters that are non standard humans and beasts. 

Reply #2 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting joasoze, reply 1
There is no list of such creatures,
End of joasoze's quote

What about the Monster Manual? Sure, it is only for FE, so the LH-only monsters won't be in it, but it should be a start.

Galactic Civilizations IV
Reply #3 from Elemental Forums Top

I also had this happen to me. The collar disappeared after trying it on "a wrong type". I reloaded because it was Ongr and I don't know why I couldn't charm him.

Reply #4 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting joasoze, reply 1

Each unit belongs to a category. You can see it when you open the information window on a unit. There is no list of such creatures, but there is a logic to it. A twisted unit will be one of those monsters that are non standard humans and beasts. 
End of joasoze's quote

 

Yep, this is all correct, but what I think the OP is trying to say is that if you try to use this collar on for example a beast, then the collar shouldn't disappear + that the unit trying to use the collar loses his turn. Instead it should simply not work to use the collar at all if the target isn't of a twisted race. This is a bug I presume, and not working as intended.

Reply #5 from Elemental Forums Top

This also happened to me although I'm pretty sure I just clicked to select it and then right clicked to cancel and it disappeared.

Reply #6 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting N1ghthavvk, reply 3

I also had this happen to me. The collar disappeared after trying it on "a wrong type". I reloaded because it was Ongr and I don't know why I couldn't charm him.
End of N1ghthavvk's quote

You can't use the "Ascian" collar on Ongr, but you can use the standard, brown, random drop collars on him.

Reply #7 from Elemental Forums Top
Quoting schattenjaeger, reply 6


 You can't use the "Ascian" collar on Ongr, but you can use the standard, brown, random drop collars on him.

End of schattenjaeger's quote

 

If that's true then clearly it's not working as intended. The standard collars should only allow to tame Beasts and Ongr is a Twisted creature.

Reply #8 from Elemental Forums Top

Ongr is actually an Ogre I think. I do not believe he is a Twisted in his description.

And whenever I went on to control him it always worked with the Ascian Collar.

I actually just checked: Ongr is a Trog.

Reply #9 from Elemental Forums Top

Well looking at his data, he's actually both:

 

<DisplayName>Ongr the Unbound</DisplayName>                                                                                                      <CreatureType>Twisted</CreatureType>                                                                                                                 <RaceType>Race_Type_Trogs</RaceType>

 

End of quote

 

In other words, he's a Twisted disguised as a Trog, which explains why you can tame him with the Amethyst Collar.

There's probably something that needs to be corrected one way or the other. :)

Reply #10 from Elemental Forums Top

Has anyone used the collar to take control of a dark wizard? Having the despair spell whenever you want it is basically a "win" button. 

Reply #11 from Elemental Forums Top

Ongr used to be listed as twisted (ha, rhyme).