[.983][Balance] Ocean's Mantle

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Alrighty, this is a lvl 2 life, lvl 2 ocean spell which grants 40% reduction in tactical spell cost.

As far as I can tell looking through the spell book ,there doesn't seem to be a related/oposite version for the death magic tree.

My suggestion would be to make the death magic version buff spell damage (rather than reduce spell cost).  This way the two schools keep their identies.  Probably should use earth or fire as the second spell type for it though.  ie lvl 2 death lvl 2 earth.

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Reply #1 from Elemental Forums Top

In not so many words.  No.  I'm quite positive there's combo spells with death magic. 

You want to pick on water.  Try Arcane Veil.  Resist every spell ?!?  Is that even fair ?

 

Reply #2 from Elemental Forums Top

focus is the equivalent tactical

 

also since there is a balance tag, mantle of ocean should be heavily nerfed

i use 10% and its even too much, mana discount stack too good like other things

 

 

as for another buff it cant be death, death is supposed to provide negative effects

if we want a spell dmg buff should be like water air or water fire maybe

 

death could have a spell reduction curse maybe

something to fight those evil dark wizards

 

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Reply #3 from Elemental Forums Top

Death's version of Mantle of Oceans is Horrific Wail, which does 3 damage per caster level to every enemy in tactical battle.  It's a very nice spell, and fits well with Death's theme of painfully killing you in every way they can think of.

Reply #4 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting ddd888, reply 2

also since there is a balance tag, mantle of ocean should be heavily nerfed

i use 10% and its even too much, mana discount stack too good like other things
End of ddd888's quote

I think the spell should reduce the mana cost by 25 % and should have a maintenance cost of 1.

 

Quoting Emperorjarin, reply 3
Death's version of Mantle of Oceans is Horrific Wail, which does 3 damage per caster level to every enemy in tactical battle.  It's a very nice spell, and fits well with Death's theme of painfully killing you in every way they can think of.
End of Emperorjarin's quote

Horrific Wail is overpowered, because as a level 10 caster you inflict 30 points of BASE damage. If you have the Warlock profession, the Path of the Mage trait and the Evoker III trait you inflict 83 points of damage.

Reply #5 from Elemental Forums Top

even though its 2 turn cast time

 

cast time is so hard to balance because basically whoever can interrupt make those spells useless

against whoever cannot interrupt  its so op

 

anyway fireball with 2 fire shards does nearly the same dmg in 1 turn less

dunno i m not sure wail is so broken

Reply #6 from Elemental Forums Top

I think ocean's mantle is just fine. Life and Water are two of the least offensive spelltraits in the game. It is perfect for a mostly-buffer type character.

The same spell would be crazy OP if you did a fire/death character, for example.

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Reply #8 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting Heavenfall, reply 7
I think ocean's mantle is just fine. Life and Water are two of the least offensive spelltraits in the game. It is perfect for a mostly-buffer type character.
End of Heavenfall's quote

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Reply #9 from Elemental Forums Top

something that makes your casting free cannot be fine

spell costs should be from 100% start of the game to something around 30 40% but obtained with MUCH effort

not something you get free with a champion or starting sovereign