I agree for now.

Hell, you need to ban them offline too. They're so absurdly overpowered against the AI that it's hillarious.

U r all blind. U cant see real problem whith is VL. Comparte to them VR are easy.

All u can do is bann. this is beta , we need to explore , explot races to  maximum so devs get info need for proper balance.

I have no idea whith idiot had the idea of banning VR  but idea is retarded

they suppouse to be nerfed and no point banning them

But whats most hippocrytic is, u bann vr but leave vl whith are much more oped then vr.

total lack of logic and sheep run. 1 screamed bann VR they r oped rest folowed.

I see u have a serious lack of arguments. I understand u will stay by your opinion even when u have nothing to defend it so  EOT.

Like i sad many times  u cant win argument with idiot. he will drag u down to his level and beat with expirience

I wish the VL were buffed.  The Rebels are way easier to play atm, imo hands down.

Well at least I finally understand this scene from Star Wars...

Vorastra needs love, Kultorask needs unlove, and VL are pretty OP when they go half-mobile.  Leave a few worlds with Orkies, factories, and Kosturas on them but wipe out the rest and max out your fleet supply and capitals via phase gates.

i believe the moblie orky is the biggest issue with VR atm

banning them is the best way to say, "We know we screwed up so badly we don't even want you to use them until we fix them".

Quoting Greg30007,

reply 20

I was playing Vasari Loyalist against vicious AIs and had planet eating tech in just under 14 minutes. 

After sending egg to the center of galaxy to yet uncontested worlds I was able to build 14 caps + titan in just under 45 minutes mark with manually purchasing caps lvls to lvl 4. After that I am unstoppable no fleet that AI can field can contest  my fleet.

Never tried this strategy on multi player but having 14 lvl4 caps + titan in 45 minutes ...... Devs might want to look into that as well.


PS if I had 2 Capital ship factories I might shave 10 minutes out of final time when I had max cap ships and titan.

 

LOL. VL can be OP. However in 5s, most likely you will be on the flank. You can't really build 5 civ lab and teching that early. You will need deal with Corvettes rush and stuff on the flank. But if you in the mid, VL can definitely be very nasty. Eat all the planet that are not on the trading route, setting up your trade extremely fast and then mass fleet.  On the other hand tho, I guess then it is a good thing that Vasari Loyalist titan is weak. Kinda balance things out a bit.

I'm pretty sure this means it's the end of the universe again but I completely agree with Qu4r here.

Mmm..marshmallows.