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Vaccine To Autism Was A Fraud

Vaccine To Autism Was A Fraud

Surprised?

I remember debating this subject some time back and getting into quite a heated debate about it with a running club member.  One of the members of my club posted a public comment on our forum urging parents NOT to vaccinate their children.  Of course I had to step in and give my two cents worth at the time.  Now with this latest news I do feel vindicated.  Of course, now I've moved and am not a member of that club anymore. 

Some people were insisting back then that vaccines could cause autism when, in fact, it wasn't that clear cut.  Their "research" was very sketchy.  Some of the people behind the debate, pushing the contention, were not even legitimate physicans or medical researchers.  I remember one of the most vocal guys behind this, his name escapes me now, even had his medical license suspended for an unrelated reason. 

 Just goes to show that the truth will eventually come out even if it takes a while to do so.   Here's the latest: 

The first study to link a childhood vaccine to autism was based on doctored information about the children involved, according to a new report on the widely discredited research.

The conclusions of the 1998 paper by Andrew Wakefield and colleagues was renounced by 10 of its 13 authors and later retracted by the medical journal Lancet, where it was published. Still, the suggestion the MMR shot was connected to autism spooked parents worldwide and immunization rates for measles, mumps and rubella have never fully recovered.

A new examination found, by comparing the reported diagnoses in the paper to hospital records, that Wakefield and colleagues altered facts about patients in their study.

The analysis, by British journalist Brian Deer, found that despite the claim in Wakefield's paper that the 12 children studied were normal until they had the MMR shot, five had previously documented developmental problems. Deer also found that all the cases were somehow misrepresented when he compared data from medical records and the children's parents.

Wakefield could not be reached for comment despite repeated calls and requests to the publisher of his recent book, which claims there is a connection between vaccines and autism that has been ignored by the medical establishment. Wakefield now lives in the U.S. where he enjoys a vocal following including celebrity supporters like Jenny McCarthy.

Deer's article was paid for by the Sunday Times of London and Britain's Channel 4 television network. It was published online Thursday in the medical journal, BMJ.

In an accompanying editorial, BMJ editor Fiona Godlee and colleagues called Wakefield's study "an elaborate fraud." They said Wakefield's work in other journals should be examined to see if it should be retracted.

Last May, Wakefield was stripped of his right to practice medicine in Britain. Many other published studies have shown no connection between the MMR vaccination and autism.

But measles has surged since Wakefield's paper was published and there are sporadic outbreaks in Europe and the U.S. In 2008, measles was deemed endemic in England and Wales.

 

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Reply #26 Top

If the vaccine increased the rate of autism how is the rate the same between the kids that got it and those that didn't?
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I don't know.  I'm just taking what Dr. Deisher said at face value....everyone of the change points at which autism spiked is associated with an aborted fetal event.  

 

Reply #27 Top

lula -

I recommend you research Venn diagrams.

Reply #28 Top

I recommend you research Venn diagrams.
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Ha, math is not my strongpoint and statistics was never my bag.

Listen, your points are well made and well taken. It's just that we see this from opposite pov.

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One of the members of my club posted a public comment on our forum urging parents NOT to vaccinate their children.
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 KFC,

And maybe she/he had good reason.

Are you OK with vaccines developed from the fetal tissue of aborted babies?

Are you OK with the government mass vaccination policy that treats all individuals like a herd of sheep with their one size fits all philosophy of the US Public Health Service?

Don't you understand that for some children a vaccine may be more dangerous than catching the disease?

How many parents are told beforehand of the vaccine's pros and cons before blindly letting their children be injected with these?

 

 

Reply #29 Top

Don't you understand that for some children a vaccine may be more dangerous than catching the disease?
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Then I challenge you to identify them in advance.

Everything in life is a matter of odds and risk.  Anything and everything we do involves making judgements about relative risks.  The facts/data are clear - a child is at greater risk without immunization than with immunization.  Hands down, no contest.

Reply #30 Top

Amen Daiwa.  I concur.  And that is now manifesting itself via the surge of diseases that are making a very strong comeback as a result of parents NOT immunizing their children. 

 

 

Reply #31 Top

Don't you understand that for some children a vaccine may be more dangerous than catching the disease?
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Then I challenge you to identify them in advance.
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No problem.

Vaccines carry risks and catching the disease or becoming seriously ill as a result happens.  There are those parents whose children have gotten sick after being inoculated. I remember back when millions of Americans were given the Sabin oral polio vaccine and a percentage of those people contracted the disease from the vaccine. As a result the Food and Drug Administration urged doctors to give the injected Salk polio vaccine becasue it did not contain live viruses and didn't carry the risk of the person's contracting polio.  

I've read about kids suffering seizures after receiving a DPT shot and whole cell pertuissis vaccines caused a higher rate of adverse reactions.

Ever heard of the rotavirus (infant diarrhea ) vaccine? Even though in pre-licensure trials for the rotavirus vaccine, some babies suffered obstructed bowels and some required surgery to remove a portion of the intestine, a painful condition called intussusception.  It was approved in 1998 and licenced by the FDA and CDC recommended. Within months after government approval, 1.5 million vaccine doses were given to infants. The most common side effects listed were moderate fever, increased irritability and decreased appetitie.

In 1999 it was suddenly withdrawn from the market and the public was led to believe there was new info about harmful side effects. It took a hearing conducted by Rep. Dan Burton (R) for the factors and truth to come out. Turns out most of the work done by the CDC advisory committee was behind closed doors without public scrutiny. Yea, 6 out of 10 of the working groups  had financial ties to pharmaceuticals that made the rotavirus vaccine and those on the voting committee had financila ties to manufacturers and owned stock in vaccine patents or in pharmaceuticals.

Anyway, the data was concealed, and the public didn't learn of the problem until more than 100 cases of intussusception were reported, including one death.

 

Reply #32 Top

No problem.
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Then why didn't you?

There is no zero-risk path.  There are only two paths - lower risk and higher risk.

Choosing to withhold immunizations from your children is choosing the higher risk path.  People are free to take that gamble (at least in my book) but it's a bad bet.

Reply #33 Top

Everything in life is a matter of odds and risk.
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I know.  But at the same time we can't put our heads in the sand and pretend there is no problem with vaccines.

Anything and everything we do involves making judgements about relative risks.
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Risks are not something that government in a free society should ordinarily force people to accept.   Yet, who mandates these vaccines and forces medical care on healthy people? Who decides what drugs are forced on children? Is the process that produces these mandates scientifically, bureaucratically, legislatively, politically honest and open to public scrutiny and peer review?

Parents have a moral obligation to secure the health of their children and for some families that involves withholding selected or all vaccines.

I believe parents should be told of the risks and be given the option of refusing to have their children immunized with no prejudice attached.

As it stands right now, all children must be injected with up to 33 immunizations before they can be admitted to schools or daycare and some of these injections are given to infants withing the first hours of birth and the first weeks of life. These vaccinations are under the federal government's mass vaccination policy..the current one size fits all....that treats individuals like a herd ignoring individual size, age, race, genetics, etc. You and KFC may be fine with that....I'm not. And I'll never be OK with vaccines developed from the fetal tissue of aborted babies. I think it's evil that the health of our children can be insured through the death of other children.

I'll sum it up by saying the whole premise of government one size fits all vaccine mandates is disturbing to those who value freedom.

 

  

 

Reply #34 Top

I understand your libertarian bent, something I certainly appreciate, but none of us live in isolation.  If you want your child to attend school with my children, I have a legitimate basis for insisting your child be vaccinated.  If my child chooses to go to college & live in a dorm, the risk of meningococcal meningitis, a potentially fatal disease, warrants immunization against it.

Reply #35 Top

Don't you understand that for some children a vaccine may be more dangerous than catching the disease?
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Then why didn't you?
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I did...read the following.

Vaccines carry risks and catching the disease or becoming seriously ill as a result happens. There are those parents whose children have gotten sick after being inoculated. I remember back when millions of Americans were given the Sabin oral polio vaccine and a percentage of those people contracted the disease from the vaccine. As a result the Food and Drug Administration urged doctors to give the injected Salk polio vaccine becasue it did not contain live viruses and didn't carry the risk of the person's contracting polio.

I've read about kids suffering seizures after receiving a DPT shot and whole cell pertuissis vaccines caused a higher rate of adverse reactions.

Ever heard of the rotavirus (infant diarrhea ) vaccine? Even though in pre-licensure trials for the rotavirus vaccine, some babies suffered obstructed bowels and some required surgery to remove a portion of the intestine, a painful condition called intussusception. It was approved in 1998 and licenced by the FDA and CDC recommended. Within months after government approval, 1.5 million vaccine doses were given to infants. The most common side effects listed were moderate fever, increased irritability and decreased appetitie.

In 1999 it was suddenly withdrawn from the market and the public was led to believe there was new info about harmful side effects. It took a hearing conducted by Rep. Dan Burton (R) for the factors and truth to come out. Turns out most of the work done by the CDC advisory committee was behind closed doors without public scrutiny. Yea, 6 out of 10 of the working groups had financial ties to pharmaceuticals that made the rotavirus vaccine and those on the voting committee had financila ties to manufacturers and owned stock in vaccine patents or in pharmaceuticals.

Anyway, the data was concealed, and the public didn't learn of the problem until more than 100 cases of intussusception were reported, including one death.

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With this, as far as this discussion, I've said all I plan to. I've made my point and I get yours...which is to deplore any criticism of vaccines implying that the objections must be based on ignorance, be unscientific or non-sense.

Reply #36 Top

No, you didn't identify any child or group of children who should not receive a vaccine.  Because you can't know in advance.  The notion that no child should be vaccinated because some may have an adverse reaction ignores the clearly demonstrated benefits of vaccination for the overwhelming majority of children.

I get yours...which is to deplore any criticism of vaccines implying that the objections must be based on ignorance, be unscientific or non-sense
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Those are your words, not mine.  I've only said, essentially, that the overwhelming body of data support the net benefit, safety and efficacy of vaccines and that there is no sufficiently convincing contrary data to persuade me otherwise.  Certainly not the speculation you quoted from Dr. Deisher.

Reply #37 Top

The notion that no child should be vaccinated because some may have an adverse reaction ignores the clearly demonstrated benefits of vaccination for the overwhelming majority of children.
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On the radio yesterday I was listening to an interesting story by the President of Compassion.  His name is Wes Stafford.  Anyhow he was telling this story about growing up in Africa as part, I'm assuming, of a missionary family.   He said  when he was very young, there was a big measel outbreak in his village and children were dying all over.  He said one out of four that contracted this disease died.  He saw many of his young friends die. 

So he went to his dad asking when he was going to die.  His dad showed him the scratches on his arm and asked if he remembered getting his immunization.  He said because he had those scratches on his arm he would not die of this disease.   He was safe. 

Wes said then he has been overjoyed at seeing hundreds of thousands of children who now have those scratches on their arms.  Those scratches saved millions of lives. 

 

Reply #38 Top

Those scratches saved millions of lives.
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Most vaccines do just that.  But like all things in life, nothing is perfect, so some do suffer.  It is like Daiwa says - you are playing the odds when you get vaccinated.

But the fervor of vaccinations has gone too far.  Now they are vaccinating against things you cannot get by normal social interaction.  But not giving you the option - mandating it!  I agree with vaccinating children (had all of mine vaccinated), but not for things where the mortality rate is less than that of taking the vaccine!

Reply #40 Top

Quoting Basmas, reply 39
Such as?
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HPV for young girls.

Reply #42 Top

That's funny.  And sad.  And infuriating.  Sometimes it's hard not to despair for our future.  This is one of those times.

Reply #43 Top

oh boy...here we go again.  It's the water!  I knew it!  :) 

Reply #44 Top

Quoting Daiwa, reply 42
That's funny.  And sad.  And infuriating.  Sometimes it's hard not to despair for our future.  This is one of those times.
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I was hoping you would stop by and comment.  I find it distressing for 2 reasons - the ignorance of the statement - and the fact that liberals can say such stupid things and get away with it.

Reply #45 Top

Quoting KFC, reply 43
oh boy...here we go again.  It's the water!  I knew it!   
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Well - I have it on the best of authority that you can get pregnant (or make your wife so) by drinking from the same fountain as a pregnant woman - after all, how do you explain the baby booms at some companies? ;)

Reply #46 Top

EPA Administrator Claims Regulating Drinking Water Supply Prevents Kids from Getting Autism
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If it keeps up, the EPA is going to be America's downfall.

 

 

Reply #47 Top

If it keeps up, the EPA is going to be America's downfall.
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ya, they're well on their way..

how do you explain the baby booms at some companies?
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and here I was thinking all this time it had to do with playing footsies under the table.  And now you're telling me it's in the water??

 

Reply #48 Top

The following article is WRITTEN by Chuck Norris entitled:

THE VENOM IN THE FEDS VACCINATIONS

 

 

Monday, November 07, 2011 1:10 PM

While most mainstream news covers presidential campaigns or economic conditions, the feds are going under the radar and your skin – literally – with something that could be detrimental to your children's and your health. And news just broke about the cover-up, but few, if any, agencies passed along the wire.

According to the Centers for Disease Control, or CDC, one in 110 children have autism spectrum disorders, or ASDs, which is strikingly higher than ratios just two decades ago. (ASDs are a group of developmental disabilities that can cause communication, behavioral and social challenges.) The National Autism Association, or NAA, calls the 644 percent increase of ASDs among all U.S. children since the early 1990s "a tragic epidemic of autism."

Many attribute the increase in numbers of ASDs to children being exposed to significant quantities of thimerosal, a mercury-based compound that has been used since the 1930s as a preservative in certain vaccines and pharmaceutical products to prevent bacterial and fungal contamination.

According to its own website, however, the CDC stands by its conclusions that, "To date, the studies continue to show that vaccines are not associated with ASDs" (emphasis on "CDC's" conclusions). CDC added, "The most recent and rigorous scientific research does not support the argument that thimerosal–containing vaccines are harmful. … Is thimerosal in vaccines safe? Yes."

But last week a PRNewswire release reported that the Coalition for Mercury-free Drugs, or CoMeD, exposed a federal cover-up between the CDC and vaccine researchers. Despite that the CDC possessed a 2002 communication that revealed a causal relationship between the removal of thimerosal from vaccines and a decline in autism rates, the CDC published a 2003 cornerstone article in Pediatrics that ignored the Danish data and misled the medical community and public by insinuating that thimerosal in vaccines does not increase the risks of autism.

Almost inconceivable, the Pediatrics article actually purported that autism rates increased after thimerosal was removed. And to add insult to injury, the PRNewswire report noted, "One coauthor, from Aarhus University, Denmark, was aware of the omission and alerted CDC officials in a 2002 email, stating, 'Attached I send you the short and long manuscript about Thimerosal and autism in Denmark … I need to tell you that the figures do not include the latest data from 2001 … but the incidence and prevalence are still decreasing in 2001.'"

The deliberate avoidance and falsification of scientific medical data to support CDC bias is heinous enough, but the fact that such information is manipulated to practice medicine on our nation's children is monstrous malpractice and even premeditated malevolence. I agree wholeheartedly with Lisa Sykes, president of CoMeD, on her summary of the CDC cover-up: "This type of malfeasance should not be tolerated by those who are entrusted with our children's health and well-being."

The Alliance for Natural Health commented that this is not the first shady behavior to be exposed in the CDC. ANH explained, "This is not the first scandal to hit the CDC in recent years. Earlier this year, Dr. Poul Thorsen, one of the co-authors of the Pediatrics article and "scientist-in-residence" at the CDC from 2000 to 2002, was indicted in Atlanta for fraud and money laundering in relation to his $11 million grant from the CDC. And just last week, Dr. Kimberly Quinlan Lindsey, a top CDC official, was arrested and charged with two counts of child molestation and one count of bestiality."

And just when you think vaccination news couldn't get any worse, last week the San Francisco Chronicle reported that the National Biodefense Science Board, which advises the federal government on bioterrorism issues, voted 12-1 to recommend that the Health and Human Services Department endorse and sponsor a study to test the anthrax vaccine in children! (Do these advisory panels not think 36 federally recommended vaccinations for children by age two are enough to add anthrax to them?)

To regress, the latest correlation revelation between vaccines and autism will fly in the face (or at least may cause some confusion) because of a 2011 August report from the Institute of Medicine, the nation's bastion of authoritative health and medicine advice, just cleared children vaccines as autism culprits.

But the truth is, as the NAA reports, "There are over 1,500 studies and papers documenting the hypoallergenicity and toxicity of thimerosal (ethylmercury) have existed for decades," with most recent research revealing commonness of speech delays and tics. The NAA added, "Recent studies have confirmed the association between the use of thimerosal and autism has moved from 'biologically plausible' [in 2001] to a 'biological certainty.'"

Hence, justification for thimerosal's inclusion in any product is unwarranted at best and dangerous at worst. Or, as the NAA categorically states in its series of warnings about thimerosal, "Mercury is hazardous to humans. The use of a toxic poison as a preservative is undesirable, unnecessary and should be eliminated entirely."

That is why the United Nations Environmental Programme is proposing a global treaty ban on mercury in vaccines, something SafeMinds.org, the parental advocacy group, applauds based upon its longevity in trumpeting the dangers and links of thimerosal.

But the facts are, according to a recent PRNewswire report, despite that thimerosal is not used in vaccines for measles, mumps, oral polio, yellow fever or tuberculosis, it is still found in in many diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, hepatitis B, and influenza (or flu) vaccines, especially in Third-World countries.

Since 2001 in the U.S., no new vaccine licensed by the Food and Drug Administration, or FDA, for use in children has contained thimerosal (except influenza). Nevertheless, the CDC continues to recommend some routine vaccines for children younger than 6 years of age with "trace amounts of thimerosal."

The FDA has approved many seasonal flu vaccines, which come in both multi-dose vials and single-dose units. Those that are produced in large quantities and are in multi-dose vials contain thimerosal, while the single-dose units (including nasal spray) do not contain thimerosal because they are opened immediately and used only once. (So if you or yours insist on seasonal influenza shots, ensure it is a single dose.)

But do we really want to swap the flu bug for thimerosal? And isn't "Centers for Disease Control and Prevention" a total misnomer when it allows "trace amounts of thimerosal" in our children's soup of medicines? Are we really going to allow our children to be mercury-laced vaccinated guinea pigs? At the very least, shouldn't we avoid all thimerosal-containing products solely because of precautionary measures?

Dr. Jose Dorea, professor of nutritional sciences from the Universidad de Brasilia, hit the health nail right on the head when he recently said, "The evidence continues to mount that mercury in vaccines is not safe, that negative effects happen even with vaccine levels of exposure. We must end the use of thimerosal as soon as possible. No pregnant mother or child should have to trade getting mercury injected into them for the prevention of an infectious disease."

So buyer, beware! Or should I say, booster, beware! Don't check your brain in at the door of your family's health, nutrition or medical care. And don't ever be afraid to ask the hard questions of your health practitioners, like, "What are the exact ingredients in that syringe?"

It is your health, and they are your children, entrusted to you by God, so be bold in ensuring their safety and welfare. You still have the constitutional right to refuse any health care you deem unnecessary.

 

Reply #49 Top

this is what Bobby, my son, had to say about what you just sent when I sent it to him:

 

"This gets old after a while. Some people will always believe that there are aliens at area 51. Others think vaccines cause autism. Too bad the scientific literature doesn't seem to support the idea, unless you believe in conspiracy theories like this."

Reply #50 Top

Quoting lulapilgrim, reply 48
So buyer, beware! Or should I say, booster, beware! Don't check your brain in at the door of your family's health, nutrition or medical care. And don't ever be afraid to ask the hard questions of your health practitioners, like, "What are the exact ingredients in that syringe?"

It is your health, and they are your children, entrusted to you by God, so be bold in ensuring their safety and welfare. You still have the constitutional right to refuse any health care you deem unnecessary.

 
End of lulapilgrim's quote

Your son may think as he likes. I think it's wise to be concerned about these things and not cast them off as "conspiracy theories". The fellow who cuts our lawn has a son who is suffering from autism.  He said his son was as normal as could be up until he got multiple vaccination shots. He rues that day. 

36 recommended vaccines by age 2 is something for parents to seriously think about. 

Medical science and technology has come a long way. What we didn't know then, we know now and are in the process of learning more. 

Now, through medical science we know that birth control pills cause breast cancer in some women. It's not good or helpful to imagine it's a conspiracy theory.  

So, ya, when it comes to vaccines and babies, you bet...buyer beware.