Crap I suck

As a noob player myself, who hasn't joined an online game yet, I'd have to agree that the community honestly makes me cringe in the sense that for a game that wants more subs from players as a whole to make a better environment for all, you'd think as a whole, a glance at your win/loss ratio, or games played period might pull some sort of "Lemme teach you the ropes" kind of thing, but maybe it doesn't...  I know that it's not all encompassing, not everyone is a leetist asshole, but you'd think that the community as a whole would be more helpful, (especially since they can check out how many matches you've played and see), rather than kick your ass the entire game about what kind of nubtastic shit you do out of habit from playing the normal/hardmodes against the AI.

My suggestion is to read all the strat literature too, so your're prepared to run away rather than expect miracles to happen.

Take the forums with a grain of salt, there is definately a learning curve when you play online.  Even if you played on Nightmare, I doubt you'd even be remotely ready for what an actual thinking player can come up with.   I think the best advice I've seen so far is don't feed your enemy, in other words, "I'm a noob" at the start, then run ALOT.

I've been playing hard AI for a couple days now, (was playing normal off an on just for kicks), and just telling myself that my AI teammates, and the AI opponents will never generate the kinds of circumstances and environment I need to work well starting off against seasons players. 

My conclusion is just to bite the bullet and join online games, hoping to god I don't experience what you did.    I really don't want the community to turn me away from such a great game, I'm hoping they realize players with less than 20 or so games need a hand in the advice department.

Over all, my advice is what I'll be doing, ignore most of their BS and learn by playing.  About 50 - 100 games in, you'll start getting the hang of it, is what I'm thinking.

Being that as it may, look me up or lemme know when your playing, we can start a "noob" match and make sure we're at least closely matched before we play.   At the very least we can get a few seasoned players that are awesome, (many on these boards from what it sounds like, that's what gives me hope, I'm just intimidated) that might be willing to use that game to teach us some ropes.

From what it sounds like though, alot of what counts is just knowing how to run away and not get too greedy.

don't play against premade. Maybe after 50 games but yeahhhh :-/

Anyway, there are plenty of not evil people here. A good idea would be to hang out on lagwar's servers, and also look for my games.

Watch replays! That made me much better

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=upcoming&show=index&tab_new=upcoming

Hang out on the boards that was where most of the best personalities are anyways. In game many players are pricks who care much about their broken stats mor than they care about having fun.

While I agree you must know that not every noob is like you. The absolute majority is usually even unable to read let alone follow orders/ask questions. This has turned many of us "pros" off helping noobs.

The problem isn't that newbs are stupid (they're still people, as the "pros"). The problem is the people are stupid. I mean, how can you join a game with "no newbs" in the title when you have had the game in 1 week? Either they are just being annoying or their self-perception is none existing...

Well for the record every game I have played thus far has had noob or nothing in the title.  If the game has a skill requirement above noob then I won't join at least not till I'm good enough.

As an update though I played another game last night as Tb and did really well.  Maybe Da is fun and awesome to play in single player against dumb AI but against players he's pretty weak if not played correctly at least thats the feeling Im getting.

TB4L

Only until QoT enters the game and rapes him.

Wow, seriously? Don't get hung up on one word, "1 week" is simply an example of a time when most of the people are newbs. Obviously many are newbs long there after.

If you hadn't been able to play the game but still are an owner of it you are also an newb of course. Probably also after the first week.

Good. Probably most of the people do like you do. I was talking about the people who didn't.

Hey!! I was kidding, besides I think I am the only person that ever happen to.

so.. looked through your game list.. and neither your first win nor ur first 5-6 games were against premades.. plz splain which game was against a premade?

the good news is you came to the forums where lots of good info can be found..  I'll give u some tips to start.. was gonna link you a good guide for the demigod you picked to start w/ .. but .. you don't have one lol

1.) Pick 1 demigod and get good with it.  You keep jumping around to different ones when you don't even have a grasp on ONE.  If you can master a good spec (easily found on forums for each char) and know what all your abilities are and how to use them, then that's just one less thing you have to worry about as you learn the rest of the game.  Once you have learned one demigod, learn multiplayer WITH that demigod.. then branch out once you have a grasp on multiplayer.  I played reg until I was a powerhouse w/ him.. then switched to beast and it was a much faster transition from my first demigod once I learned how to play.

2.) Demigod is not a special game.  What I mean by this is, the same assholes who play in all the other online games out there... they play demigod, too.  You won't fix this by playing another game.

3.) Read forum strats and watch replays.  The good news is these forums are relatively small.. at least you don't have to sift through millions of posts on WoW forums to find what you need.

I don't mind playing with noobs if they explain they are very good at listening to experienced players. We hate noobs because they don't know how to communicate and refuse to listen to our advice. If you don't fall in this category, try to explain it.

RAWR is completely right. Pick one demigod, read a guide, and get good with him. This game is actually relatively simple. Also, be sure to health stack and buy teleport scrolls, capture locks, and sigils of vitality. That's the entire game in a nutshell.

i think most of the more experienced players are like that:

there are noobs we dont have a problem with and there are noobs who dont speak english or dont react at all and some who "know it better".

just make clear youre a beginner and you are willing to learn then the reactions will most certainly not be unfriendly.

Good I got a bit worried to be honest. It is hard to detect irony when writing.

Wait why was you worried

i will send anyone to you who doesnt speak a word english, doesnt react when you ask him by his name, says that monks should not be shared, snipe is for stealing kills blah, blah, i could go on like this forever. you really dont mind playing with that kind of players? be grateful for your calmness!

You don't know me very well do you?

Here's my advice for a noob:

1. Read the forum guides. That's what I did, and I had no trouble joining the MP part.

2. For your first character, go as sedna/Erebus/Oak. Basically, be a general. Then focus on not dieing. Not dieing is your absolute top priority (bar a few exceptions, but they don't matter at this point). Second is holding a lane. Third is taking down towers/getting kills.

3. Stack hp. You should almost always have 3-4 armors (that increase hp). Basic starting armor is banded, and for the 1500-1750 range you want: Nimoth, Hauberk of Life, Unbreakable boots. (As Oak I normally end my item buying with Vlemish, Plenor, Nimoth, Hauberk of Life, and Unbreakable boots, and maybe Bishops if I'm lucky--more likely just monks).

4. Get Vlemish before Plenor unless it is on Leviathan, in which case get Plenor first.

5. Monks are awesome, get them as your first item as a general.

6. Lastly, and absolutely most importantly, TALK with your teammates. Communication is key.

Hope that helps.

Well when i type that sort of stuff it takes too long and we both die, but if you get on vent ill talk till your ear falls off...

Host or join a game with a name like "Noobs only," "50 games max" or "for new ppl." Just kick anyone who has over 50 games so you can play with ppl on your level.

No Ub, generals require a bit more money than a assassin. Plus UB is like the easiest demigod to pla; so I have been told.