Fences on high DPI settings

Fences doesn't display correctly on high DPI settings. It looks like the window size is hard-coded, and doesn't actually expand to fit the text. For example:

 

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Reply #1 Top

i run at 1280 x 1024 and it is fine.  i think you mean in low res enviroments maybe.  however, when i forced my screen down to 800x600 the config and help screens were still ok.

could you give some more details on the resolution your screen is at and the OS you are using?

 

Reply #2 Top

I think referring to Font DPI, not screen resolution.  What DPI settings are you using?  Also, what version of Fences are you using  (found at the top of the 'About' section)

Reply #3 Top

Hello, sorry for the late reply--I was expecting to be notified by email or something when I get replies, so this kind of fell off my radar :)

My Fences version is: 1.00.2787 Release Candidate.

I was indeed referring to high DPI settings, which (under XP) can be accessed from Control Panel->Display, under the "General" tab. My DPI is set to 120D PI. My resolution is quite high, by the way: 1680x1050.

The same problem occurs in WindowsBlinds (version 6.4, build 73 x86).

Reply #4 Top

Hi ... I have the same situation in Vista and it is the system font DPI setting. 

My version of Fences is 1.0.0.0 and was installed only two days ago -- October 30th.  If I set the font DPI to the standard 96 DPI then I can read all the stuff in the windows the person above uploaded.  If I set the DPI using the "larger scale" button in Personalization which is 120 DPI or even if I use a custom setting -- currently 106 DPI -- then I can't read the windows, the writing is off the edge just like the images above.

But MUCH WORSE is the fact that if I make the system font DPI larger -- which I have to so I can read the text on the notebook's small HD screen! -- then the bigger font in the file names under the icons on the desktop overlap each other on both sides and can't be read.  Since the folders within the fences snap to the grid, it makes an unreadable mess of each fenced area on the desktop. 

I can't find a way to turn off the snap to grid function, which would solve the problem -- I could separate the icons and their larger names.

I love Fences.  I would love to buy the Pro version.  But PLEASE either give us the option to turn off the snap to grid function and/or fix the grid width so it is scalable with the system font DPI size.

THANK YOU.

 

Reply #5 Top

Work is being done to make future versions of Fences more High DPI friendly.

Reply #6 Top

EXCELLENT!  Thank you.

One other thought ... is there anyway to make it so you can lock the fences where they are on the desktop?  I tend to do shortcuts to everything and sort them later but when moving them off wherever they landed, many times the fence moves instead.

Just a thought.  Don't mean to complain about such a terrific program!  This is going to be one program I'm gonna be happy to buy.  *smiles*

 

 

Reply #7 Top

Right click on a fence/the desktop, View > Lock Fences.  I believe this lock all of them at the same time though.

Reply #8 Top

My problem is simlar to those posting prior to me.

It occurs mostly when using Remote Desktop. The resolution and physical screen sizes at the remote host computer aremuch different than the local-client. Local: 15" monitor & 1280 x 1024; Remote (with the fences): 21" and 1600 x 1400 when at the PC but it scales down to my RD settings 1280 x 1024. If I make changes in the local's display of the Remote Desktop, it messes everything up when I'm sitting back physically at the host (and no longer in an RD session).

I often end up with icons that look like they're inside of a fence, but in fact, they really aren't---they'r eon the desktop outside of a fence or behind a fence (in the latter case, get multle icons stacked on top of each other---1 from the fenced object--one from the no-fenced one).

The auto-positioning of icons is cute, but user's need to be able to shut it off because at times, the auto-positioning overrules where I want the icon and at times moves icons to a completely software-assigned space on the desktop.

Would also like to add different colors to each fenced area to help keep them distinguished.

Finally, would like the option to completely hide all icons within a fence and show only the title bar of the fenced objects showing (kind of like a docked positon on the desktop). That would save a lot more desktop space.

Reply #9 Top

Hi again,

Thanks for the tip on how to lock the fences!

On the problem of the folder names over-lapping each other when the DPI is higher than the standard 96 -- I found a fix for Vista. 

Open Control Panel, then Window Color and Appearance, at the bottom click Open Classic Appearance Properties.  Click the Advanced Button, lower right.

On the left of the menu lower down you will find:  Item:

Use the drop down box next to Item: to find:  Icon Spacing, Horizontal and Icon Spacing, Vertical.  Adjust accordingly.  I'm using 110 DPI and adjusted the Icon Spacing Horizontal to 75 and Vertical to 50 -- both were originally 54.  They still Click To Grid to the left but at least there is enough space around them now to read them!

On another subject ... has anyone had trouble doing icon tweaks after installing Fences?  Example: I use the GREAT program Rainbows Folders -- which might help LarryAaron to define his collections of folders as it colors the folder icons so you can easily group them and tell right off which Fence holds what! -- but Rainbow Folders only works sometimes since Fences was installed.  Since I use Rainbow Folders always to color code my computer and all its contents, this is a real problem.  I have no idea what to try but I'll keep working on it.  :-)

Thanks for your help! 

 

Reply #10 Top

I often end up with icons that look like they're inside of a fence, but in fact, they really aren't---they'r eon the desktop outside of a fence or behind a fence (in the latter case, get multle icons stacked on top of each other---1 from the fenced object--one from the no-fenced one).

The auto-positioning of icons is cute, but user's need to be able to shut it off because at times, the auto-positioning overrules where I want the icon and at times moves icons to a completely software-assigned space on the desktop.

Would also like to add different colors to each fenced area to help keep them distinguished.
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There were alot of fixes since the betas to prevent icons from "falling out of" a fence.  Make sure you have the 1.0 release and not one of the betas still.

FenceFan: Great idea with the icon spacing!  The only thing I'd worry about is if this will become a problem when we make the changes for higher DPI.

Reply #11 Top

Well, once you make the higher DPI fixes, then I can undo the icon spacing -- and so can anyone else who has done it for now.  Your way will be much easier for people who aren't visual tweakers like I am and who don't go layers deep into the available changes to see what they can force Windows to do.  Stuff just makes me nuts until I can make it look like I want.  ROFLMAO.

Thanks again for a great program!  How do I get on a list to buy the Pro version when it's done?  Or are you gonna be screaming it from the roof tops?

Reply #12 Top

Quoting FenceFan, reply 11
Or are you gonna be screaming it from the roof tops?
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Definitely screaming.  I still need to figure out where the roof access is in this place, though.  They told me on my first day there's an Olympic sized swimming pool up there, but I haven't checked it out yet.