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erebus's dmg output

erebus's dmg output

ok  his bite does arround 770 at max  for dmg

swarm does 450 ish 

the mist  does 125 maxed

minions dont really add that much dmg

so how the hell can a erebus  beat a qot shield whore  with 1450 dmg absorb and a 7 sec cooldown not counting -cooldown items

come on  erebus is so weak againist qot  how the hell can u win  when she out lasts u

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Reply #27 Top

sheild has 1450 aborb at lvl 10   most people have one on before the battle starts and  have it ready to go so that is around 3 shields a  battle

 

3350 absorb i think   and bite does 770 dmg  so 2 off them and 2 swarms  thats arround  2300 dmg  so ull have to do 1050 auto dmg plus her hp

sound so easy doesn't it  u try doing it let me know how it turns out 

ere is made to survive  he has shit dmg  all round  but he can kill other demis  except qot because her shield  is op to ere

 

and his bite at the begining is  rediculous 250 dmg  and 250 hp hmm not much  a 500 difference  and qot has shield up so that difference is back to 250 and compared to her shield absorbing 700 at lvl one it seems so sure who is going to win

Reply #28 Top

sound so easy doesn't it u try doing it let me know how it turns out
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Her shield can be easily broken with auto attack. I've done it many times.
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Reply #29 Top

Additionally, you're obsessing over this too much.  Sure she has great survivability spamming shield on herself, but can she kill you?  No, she's doing crap damage back (QoT autoattack is pretty weak)

So you're basically healing her damage back with bite and she's absorbing your damage with shield.

Not seeing an issue here.

Reply #30 Top

I'm not sure that I would really want to increase the damage output of the DG that can pretty much teleport in/out of a meelee fight and just go into mist form when he feels like there's a nuke or snipe on the way to kill him.

Really though, if a minion build QoT couldn't stand her ground against an "assassin-build" erebus, why the heck would anyone want to be minion build QoT. You may not be able to kill her, but she should never be able to kill you either since you can just leave the fight at your convenience wiith bat swarm.

Reply #31 Top

si1foo, 

 

1000 damage plus her health (about 2500-3000 at level 10) is NOT hard to make up with just auto-attacks and minion hits. don't forget that you're getting bonus damage for 3 seconds after each bite. also don't forget that you can have more than just the Nightwalkers as minions. the Idols work too. 

 

honestly, there's nothing deficient about Erebus damage output. if you think the only damage he's capable of dealing is with Bite and Bat Swarm you're obviously doing a really shitty job playing Erebus. 

Reply #32 Top

Quoting InfiniteVengeance, reply 4
Additionally, you're obsessing over this too much.  Sure she has great survivability spamming shield on herself, but can she kill you?  No, she's doing crap damage back (QoT autoattack is pretty weak)

So you're basically healing her damage back with bite and she's absorbing your damage with shield.

Not seeing an issue here.
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hmm ur forgeting her creeps  she may do shit dmg but her and her creeps  wear ere done and 250 heal  doesn't help much when she can doo arround 140 dmg per hit  and her creeps keep hiting u slowing ur regen

Reply #33 Top

Quoting transitive, reply 6
si1foo, 

 

1000 damage plus her health (about 2500-3000 at level 10) is NOT hard to make up with just auto-attacks and minion hits. don't forget that you're getting bonus damage for 3 seconds after each bite. also don't forget that you can have more than just the Nightwalkers as minions. the Idols work too. 

 

honestly, there's nothing deficient about Erebus damage output. if you think the only damage he's capable of dealing is with Bite and Bat Swarm you're obviously doing a really shitty job playing Erebus. 
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 ur not very smart  at lvl ten here shield  out lasts ur skills  so  u would have to do some major melee dmg to make it work and  if she was low on hp she would just  eat a shambler  and then fuck u over

i dare you too fight a qot that is using a minion based build with shield

you wouldn't win the fight once u would be forced to retreat and retreat till she has taken out ur base and is fucking your citadel over

Reply #34 Top

Wow.

You know people whine when they complain that the most UP demigod is OP. :rolleyes:

Reply #35 Top

most op  how do u figure that  he survives but have u ever seen one kill u in 4  attacks  nah  and u can get away from one

when u can get away from a oak  with pent and  alot off dmg  let me know

 

oak is the best demi  if played  in certain ways but  not many people can

the easiest demis to use are reg and  ub  because they have high attack speed and  high attack skills so pretty easy

 

oak has 2 attack skills  pents max is 800  and surge is 500 i think 

ere is pretty weak when a range  ability  does more dmg  same affects  just doesn't heal u

which would u rather have  pent or bite

i know which is better

Reply #36 Top

By this logic, QoT needs a buff because there is no way that she can kill Erebus in 1v1. 

Reply #37 Top

lol@you.

 

you've got a whole thread full of people saying you're wrong and calling you a whiner. and you say i'm not smart? at least i can type a complete sentence. 

 

i at least tried to present a coherent argument without calling you names. but if thats how you wanna roll, screw you. you're a retard. learn english. 

Reply #38 Top

hmm  i think your actually  wrong about retard 

retard is when your slow a delay in development and progress

so  seems that your more off a retard

and  one thing i think is funny is that everyone is cring and bitching that ub is unstopable and op  when  they did the same about ere  and ub could kill ere 

and so what if i dont use puncuation  im dsylexic  you iddiot

Reply #39 Top

i personally think erebus dmg output is pretty awesome. i know NOTHING about him but what i know is that he beats me (oak) down pretty fast, and i usually stack health if possible.

Reply #40 Top

foo, since I was in that game with you I'm going to comment a bit on this.

 

First off, this game is not about 1v1. While Erebus may have a tough time killing a QoT minion build, there are other demigods that can, and she will almost certainly die if caught in a 2v1 situation regardless of the demigod combination. Sure she can hold a lane against Erebus, but that is when we should have switched off or teamed up against her (however, our UB was an AI after the first 3 mintues I believe).

 

Second, saving for and buying some cleave items and the consumable anti-minion item would have helped (I can't think of its name right now).

 

Third, she was built for survivability. She was doing shit for damage the entire match, but could easily take a large amount of damage. By late game she was using shield and HoL, and as such was nigh unkillable in a 1v1 situation.

 

IMO, Erebus is fine. His damage output is still great and his self-healing potential is still awesome. Mana control with him is a tad trickier since the rebalance, but still very managable (it used to be possible to go on huge killing sprees without having to visit the crystal for mana or use mana pots). Not every demigod should have a counter for every other demigod, otherwise why do we need teams in the first place?

Reply #41 Top

but on cata there are 2 routes of minions and witchever i went too and seeing as if we are both together tha ai would have been farmed  serverly

so 2v1 was never a option  plus   then the other 2 would have pushed  the other side 

but eres dmg is weak  compared to  oak or ub as the other dudes mentioned and i have also seen a  ub and oak with huge regen  high then ere

Reply #42 Top

The AI was our problem, and thus I think it is hard to pull much of a conclusion from that match. A real UB could have handled the queen easily. And you are correct, oak and ub have higher autoattack damage capability, but they do not have the survivability of Erebus (unless you are counting Oak's shield + HoL combo option). The way that oak and ub regen is higher is usually due to life steal or HoL, and not latent regen. By lvl 5, Erebus can easily have 20 hp/s regen (first level poisoned blood, blood of the fallen, and +regen armor).

Reply #43 Top

QoT and Sedna are not meant to be soloed (without some sort of advantage like 3+ lvls or lots of potions etc). Make friends and stop losing.

Reply #44 Top

Err, I've never had a problem with Qot as a Erebus player. Basicly she shields up but she can't do a crap on me. I can't do much of a crap on her either but more then she can and the minions will simply heal me if I go low on hp or I can bite. Let's see here... if a Qot has about 2k hp around level 10 and a shield that protects her for 2k hp she has about 4k. I usually got something about 3k and I do far more damage on her so I'll win in the end.

Reply #45 Top

Compared to damage outputs Bramble Shield starts strong but gets weaker as time goes on.  At level 10 any Assassin-build DG can penetrate the shield; level 11 and up the damage ramps up radically and the Queen needs to spend more and more time casting AOEs against the grunts; bramble shield gets progressively less useful. That's why Goddess of Thorns exists.

 

 

Reply #46 Top

12 nightwalkers+2 minotaurs+2 archers+2 priests = 1 dead anything

Reply #47 Top

Quoting TheGuildfordStrangler, reply 21
12 nightwalkers+2 minotaurs+2 archers+2 priests = 1 dead anything
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hmm  anything u sure about that  a mine  winged reg would own ur minions and get u or force u to run

Reply #48 Top

Regulus' survivability at close range is so limited that it wouldn't matter. His mines can only hit so many nightwalkers at once. Erebus shouldn't have too much trouble taking down Regulus if he actually manages to get close(of course, getting close is the issue).

Reply #49 Top

Quoting TheGuildfordStrangler, reply 23
Regulus' survivability at close range is so limited that it wouldn't matter. His mines can only hit so many nightwalkers at once. Erebus shouldn't have too much trouble taking down Regulus if he actually manages to get close(of course, getting close is the issue).
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Bat swarm in, bite, sleep, here they come.

Cape-warp out if things get hairy.  :fuzzy:

Reply #50 Top

Eh... that combo's overexaggerated. It's freaking awesome when it does work, but the mana cost is insane, especially with the infamous Erebus nerf. Even with Vlemish, you're still go through a massive amount of mana incredibly quickly. You're pretty much giving up everything for that one assault. You won't be consolidating anything after something like that, and that's really important in Demigod, where the territory is just as important as the guy standing on it.