Has the game died already?

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I'm guessing multiplayer word-of-mouth issues have killed the game.  I bought it despite hearing all the horrible reviews and in many ways I regret it, but thought I'd try and get the most out of the purchase.


Sadly, I think between the craptastic online system, horrible AI, and nearly impossible to come-from-behind aspect of the game (we did have 1 come from behind win in almost 418 games I'm tracking), this is relegated to DOTA die-hards and bargain-basement games shoppers in about 2 weeks time.

I guess that is why there is already a 50% off coupon :/

Too bad but reversing this is impossible.   Or you can mention a game that has come back from the dead...  ;)

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Reply #1 from Demigod Forums Top

Note - Meant to say 118 games, not 418.  But the editing features of this forum are about as great as the online multiplayer ;P

Or at least half the time I try and edit a post, I get HTML markup and then can't save it (after entering reason) because it keeps saying it needs a message.   Say wut wut?

BTW, I used to bash BattlNet (Blizzard's online system) once in a while but in hindsight, that thing is GODly given the competition, and to think it's been out for about a decade and growing strong.  SC2 should cement it as the best ever past, present, and future.

Reply #2 from Demigod Forums Top

I'd hardly call a game dead when the list of custom games is never empty. Even when list might be low, you just Host and you get 8 players in less than 30s.

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Reply #3 from Demigod Forums Top

Brand new game with a ton of hype and 10 or so custom games at any point and time is great?   Yes, maybe not dead...but definitely not thriving.

Add to it I'm not a big fan of custom games but with the Pantheon severly lacking in any area you can point to (I won't rehash the threads about it), and I guess I don't blame you for pointing out custom games since there isn't much else to try and salvage.

BTW, since I bought this - I'm not rooting against it, but I'm struggling to find the silver lining as a fan of games like this.  Someone help me see it :)

Reply #4 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting GoldenBee, reply 3
Brand new game with a ton of hype and 10 or so custom games at any point and time is great?   Yes, maybe not dead...but definitely not thriving.

Add to it I'm not a big fan of custom games but with the Pantheon severly lacking in any area you can point to (I won't rehash the threads about it), and I guess I don't blame you for pointing out custom games since there isn't much else to try and salvage.
End of GoldenBee's quote

 

yesterday there was the opposite problem man

there were so many ppl that me and my friend HARDLY could join the same game, we had to pick a game 1/8 and click and often in that time the game was already full and we couldnt get all inside

Reply #5 from Demigod Forums Top

Well, maybe I'll look more at custom games, but what I love about BattleNet is that ranks are exremely visible and it tries, as best as possible, to match according to ranks.

Not perfect, but the data is extremely reliable and equally visible.  Here, you need to run your own version of an Oracle business intelligence data set-up to crunch your own numbers just to have anything accurate (yes, I know, they are working on it like all the other issues)

Reply #6 from Demigod Forums Top

actually there seems to be an increase, at least with customs and the forums. new faces all over the place

Reply #7 from Demigod Forums Top

it was dead from the start. demigod is just a filler till Q4 2009. more than a month and they r still fixing net code. guess how much time will it take to fix pathfinding , skill activation, balance - issues. i guess ~ 2-3 months. even die hard fans will say "fuck it" by that time.

Reply #8 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting wulagas-wulagaski, reply 7
it was dead from the start. demigod is just a filler till Q4 2009. more than a month and they r still fixing net code. guess how much time will it take to fix pathfinding , skill activation, balance - issues. i guess ~ 2-3 months. even die hard fans will say "fuck it" by that time.
End of wulagas-wulagaski's quote
Most games take a year + to balance and get rid of all the bugs. SC:BW is 10 years old and still getting bug fixes. 

Reply #9 from Demigod Forums Top

Well, I'm ok with balance issues since those are tough no matter how much you QA (although given the immense number of issues, one has to question how much QA happened).   And small, non-game breaking bugs are allowable as well - to a certain extent.

But the multiplayer issues in today's age of gaming is an embarrasement no matter how you try and justify it.

That said, they have been open about how bad it is and how much they wish it wasn't - and are trying to fix it.

But sadly, although I am an exception and still bought the game hoping for the best, I think many are heeding the word-of-mouth and reviews and are staying away.

 

Reply #10 from Demigod Forums Top

demigod is good times yo. :rofl:

Reply #11 from Demigod Forums Top

lmao at this post.

Have 2k people online at one time is not dead.

Lobby list means nothing - lots of people do Pantheon/Skirmish and so do not show up in the lobby and most players are already ingame. Since games take quite long (30 mins+) which is longer then most RTS, there will be less games showing.

This game will only grow in activity with the support Stardock are giving it.
This games balance is 100x better then any blizzards game was one month after release - fact. And if you ar expecting 100k people online at once, your not going to get it - end of story. No matter how good the game was it didnt have an army of fanboys following it from previous sequels or anything.

Reply #12 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting DalzK, reply 11
lmao at this post.

This games balance is 100x better then any blizzards game was one month after release - fact.
End of DalzK's quote

I think your first line summed up your post :)   Lie much?  And I'm guessing by your post you've never played a Blizzard game.  Even if I wanted to hate Blizzard, there is a reason haters and fanbois always proclaim them the best gaming company...evah.

Although I don't really give much credence to fan or haters.  You just need to listen to what other gaming COMPANIES say about Blizzard.  They literally fall over in awe and so would I.  They are the model every single gaming company that isn't closing down their doors tries to emulate.

After all, what is this game based on?   Ooops, I didn't mean to go there.

P.S.  Fact.

Reply #13 from Demigod Forums Top

Wait, you have played 118 games and seen only one comeback?!? I've seen lots and I have played max half that number of games online. Certainly a number on par with other RTS-style online games.

Reply #15 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Lemminkaeinen, reply 13
Wait, you have played 118 games and seen only one comeback?!? I've seen lots and I have played max half that number of games online. Certainly a number on par with other RTS-style online games.
End of Lemminkaeinen's quote

 

Well, if you consider that the vast number of Pantheon games at least almost always has at least one person drop before the end (either rage-quit, has bad teammate and quits, or simply quits when they can tell there is no comback since it is nearly impossible in Demigod), then the other player is stuck with AI.

That in and of itself = loss usually or they simply quit at that point too (and I don't blame them).

So yeah, although comebacks are theoretically possible, they are an extreme rarity.  Maybe in arranged custom games they happen much more, but I should clarify I'm speaking of Pantheon games which is all I play.

Reply #16 from Demigod Forums Top

I'm guessing multiplayer word-of-mouth issues have killed the game.  I bought it despite hearing all the horrible reviews and in many ways I regret it, but thought I'd try and get the most out of the purchase.


Sadly, I think between the craptastic online system, horrible AI, and nearly impossible to come-from-behind aspect of the game (we did have 1 come from behind win in almost 418 games I'm tracking), this is relegated to DOTA die-hards and bargain-basement games shoppers in about 2 weeks time.

I guess that is why there is already a 50% off coupon :/

Too bad but reversing this is impossible.   Or you can mention a game that has come back from the dead... 
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Died ???

Almost everyday i m seeing more players online.

Reply #17 from Demigod Forums Top

http://www.xfire.com/games/demigod/Demigod/

 

Facts speak for themeselves, game is seeing a very nice resurgence now a lot of the bugs have been squashed and the 50% off code is helping nicely

Reply #18 from Demigod Forums Top

I think your first line summed up your post :)    Lie much?  And I'm guessing by your post you've never played a Blizzard game.  Even if I wanted to hate Blizzard, there is a reason haters and fanbois always proclaim them the best gaming company...evah.

Although I don't really give much credence to fan or haters.  You just need to listen to what other gaming COMPANIES say about Blizzard.  They literally fall over in awe and so would I.  They are the model every single gaming company that isn't closing down their doors tries to emulate.

After all, what is this game based on?   Ooops, I didn't mean to go there.

P.S.  Fact.

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Wow...Did you buy Starcraft on the day of release? You know it took about 1.5 years or so before it was actually balanced? Where the hell is the "Lie" in that? I have no idea why your talking about random blizzard shit, I honeslty couldnt care less. The point is that on release, Starcraft's balance was not as good as Demigods. And tbh Starcraft isnt even that balanced on some of the official maps.

After all, what is this game based on? Its based on a MOD that has nothing to do with Blizzard except its engine - which has actually been the only thing holding DotA back, hence why they are making LoL. Thanks for your pr0 post.

Not once did I say anything bad about Blizzard, I am just saying its true that on release Starcrafts balance wasnt as good as Demigods :) You said that one of the issues with Demigod is balance....thats the complete bs. The best thing about Demigod atm is the balance.

Reply #19 from Demigod Forums Top

reason for the numbers, it was only released in the rest of the world on 22 of may, well that is soonest that I could get my hands on a copy, yeah there is more than just america out there :)

Reply #20 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Talsworthy, reply 17
http://www.xfire.com/games/demigod/Demigod/

 

Facts speak for themeselves, game is seeing a very nice resurgence now a lot of the bugs have been squashed and the 50% off code is helping nicely
End of Talsworthy's quote

 

THe game was just released in Europe. Thats why there are so many new players. Wait one month and you will see the numbers decreasing.

Reply #21 from Demigod Forums Top

 

Yep the OP is right, the game is dead as a maggot.

 

Open Games Current Games Players Online
13 60 334

Demigod open games

Game name Current Players Version Host
(DE) 3on3 16k gerhost 2 MAIN.1.00.0114 L4ST
(US) East USA, 3v3 big map 3 MAIN.1.00.0114 DaAngelr
(US) 3 v 3/4v4 US Breakfast Special 6 MAIN.1.00.0114 sevensided
(US) 5v5 east US, The Monkey House 2 MAIN.1.00.0114 theubersmurf
(SE) EU 100Mbit host, low ping only 8 MAIN.1.00.0114 MrJJ86
(DE) LANweilig 2 MAIN.1.00.0114 lw_kakarott
(UK) 3v3 new players 7 MAIN.1.00.0114 Sorrow234
Pantheon, Rokur Match 4 1.00.52 Kroaton
(UK) 3v3 EU 6 MAIN.1.00.0114 Megatorn
(IT) 3v3-2v2-EU 2 MAIN.1.00.0114 mojitozzolo
Pantheon, Rokur Match 4 1.00.52 rrgz420
(UK) Euro Host - Low (<200) Ping Please :) 2 MAIN.1.00.0114 Davinaldo
Pantheon, Rokur Match 4 1.00.52 Poma34rus

 

Demigod games in progress

Game name Current Players Version Host Start Time
(US) 3v3 Hosting from SPACE! 6 MAIN.1.00.0114 HahaOhWow 5/25/2009 8:26:20 AM
Pantheon, Rokur Match 3 1.00.52 ChronosTheStoned 5/25/2009 8:29:17 AM
(DK) Only n00bs 4 MAIN.1.00.0114 mrc2505 5/25/2009 8:30:25 AM
(UK) 2v2 EU 3 MAIN.1.00.0114 Jay1987 5/25/2009 8:32:59 AM
Pantheon, Rokur Match 4 1.00.52 terehusha 5/25/2009 8:33:25 AM
Instant Action Match 4 1.00.52 Dirtynailz 5/25/2009 8:35:05 AM
(UA) 3v3\EU\super pro only xDD 6 MAIN.1.00.0114 ZloyKtulhy 5/25/2009 8:36:41 AM
(US) 2v2 be good 4 MAIN.1.00.0114 RapierX 5/25/2009 8:37:23 AM
(RU) Russkue 2x2 2 MAIN.1.00.0114 DEMAN91 5/25/2009 8:37:38 AM
(AU) AUS/NZ 3v3+ 8 MAIN.1.00.0114 UhelligGudn 5/25/2009 8:38:46 AM
Pantheon, Rokur Match 4 1.00.52 JustinH76 5/25/2009 8:38:55 AM
(US) 2v2 US Fast Host 4 MAIN.1.00.0114 Haest 5/25/2009 8:41:45 AM
Pantheon, Rokur Match 4 1.00.52 VildebrasGreybeard 5/25/2009 8:43:33 AM
Pantheon, Rokur Match 4 1.00.52 leveich 5/25/2009 8:44:08 AM
(UK) UK 2v2 Begin/Int 4 MAIN.1.00.0114 M00min 5/25/2009 8:45:45 AM
(AU) DaBing's priv server 5 MAIN.1.00.0114 DaBing 5/25/2009 8:48:54 AM
Pantheon, Rokur Match 4 1.00.52 pjpb14 5/25/2009 8:49:00 AM
(UK) custom 4 MAIN.1.00.0114 xsimonater 5/25/2009 8:51:01 AM
(DE) 3on3 EU Host 4 MAIN.1.00.0114 albundy2k4 5/25/2009 8:52:05 AM
Instant Action Match 8 1.00.52 MysterD 5/25/2009 8:52:33 AM
(UK) Murlocs 6 MAIN.1.00.0114 Treguard1981 5/25/2009 8:53:09 AM
(FI) EU 3vs3 PEWPEW 6 MAIN.1.00.0114 Iraiso 5/25/2009 8:53:48 AM
Pantheon, Rokur Match 4 1.00.52 MikusR 5/25/2009 8:54:26 AM
(DE) 1v1 noobs 2 MAIN.1.00.0114 Black-Sun 5/25/2009 8:54:40 AM
Pantheon, Rokur Match 4 1.00.52 Lupe101 5/25/2009 8:55:17 AM
(DE) i love analex 4 MAIN.1.00.0114 jekorame 5/25/2009 8:56:06 AM
digs 6 MAIN.1.00.0114 Provocator 5/25/2009 8:56:10 AM
Pantheon, Rokur Match 4 1.00.52 Feindbild 5/25/2009 8:56:13 AM
(UK) bitva bogov RUS 4 MAIN.1.00.0114 Vehveh 5/25/2009 8:57:56 AM
Instant Action Match 4 1.00.52 anthweiss 5/25/2009 8:58:24 AM
(IT) 2v2 eu 4 MAIN.1.00.0114 DaRioT 5/25/2009 8:58:41 AM
(US) The Court of the Grand Wazoo 2 MAIN.1.00.0114 Mistralok 5/25/2009 8:58:57 AM
(US) 3v3/4v4 US west.. no noobs 6 MAIN.1.00.0114 AceJack 5/25/2009 9:00:14 AM
(RU) 2-2 2 MAIN.1.00.0114 PVOC 5/25/2009 9:00:29 AM
(DE) EU 3v3 no quitters 6 MAIN.1.00.0114 Codas 5/25/2009 9:00:59 AM
Pantheon, Rokur Match 4 1.00.52 wagghh 5/25/2009 9:01:56 AM
(CH) 2vs2 eu, experienced players 4 MAIN.1.00.0114 Aetam 5/25/2009 9:02:21 AM
Pantheon, Rokur Match 4 1.00.52 Kohryu 5/25/2009 9:03:40 AM
(DE) only Newbies, EU, 4vs4 8 MAIN.1.00.0114 Gabriell12 5/25/2009 9:03:45 AM
(US) 3x3 Central US 6 MAIN.1.00.0114 caspervw 5/25/2009 9:04:41 AM
Pantheon, Rokur Match 4 1.00.52 trybak 5/25/2009 9:05:21 AM
(US) mine 10 MAIN.1.00.0114 cyberscout 5/25/2009 9:06:35 AM
Pantheon, Rokur Match 4 1.00.52 joew7 5/25/2009 9:06:43 AM
Pantheon, Rokur Match 4 1.00.52 Nathan E 5/25/2009 9:06:51 AM
(UK) 3v3 EU 5 MAIN.1.00.0114 deathofrats44 5/25/2009 9:07:40 AM
(US) Matt 6 MAIN.1.00.0114 Cocalus 5/25/2009 9:08:56 AM
(UK) YEA BOI! 6 MAIN.1.00.0114 millward7799 5/25/2009 9:09:35 AM
(US) 2v2 Canada/US 4 MAIN.1.00.0114 14Phoenix 5/25/2009 9:10:05 AM
(AU) Cel's Aussie Demigod - Spongey 2 MAIN.1.00.0114 loginos 5/25/2009 9:10:47 AM
(FI) 3v3 Europe 6 MAIN.1.00.0114 Kurbutti 5/25/2009 9:10:48 AM
Pantheon, Rokur Match 4 1.00.52 Sargonas 5/25/2009 9:11:38 AM
(US) kush 10 MAIN.1.00.0114 churlbeck 5/25/2009 9:11:40 AM
(US) 4 vs 4 US 8 MAIN.1.00.0114 nappin713 5/25/2009 9:11:47 AM
(RU) Russia Only 4 MAIN.1.00.0114 Black-Jack 5/25/2009 9:12:32 AM
Pantheon, Rokur Match 4 1.00.52 madMike2dCod 5/25/2009 9:13:09 AM
(UK) [6-6-6] 2 MAIN.1.00.0114 -6-6-6-Genuine 5/25/2009 9:13:53 AM
(DE) German/EU 4vs 4 or 3 vs 3 10 MAIN.1.00.0114 Soceres 5/25/2009 9:14:07 AM
(UK) 3v3 EU Noobs 6 MAIN.1.00.0114 Zac_Dai 5/25/2009 9:14:58 AM
(DE) RB test game 2 MAIN.1.00.0114 _doom 5/25/2009 9:16:18 AM
(CH) 1234 2 MAIN.1.00.0114 Paddyhiar 5/25/2009 9:16:28 AM

 

 

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Reply #22 from Demigod Forums Top

Why do people compare this game to Starcraft? It's like comparing apples to oranges. I for one love Demigod but Starcraft is meh for me. I will play Starcraft 2 once, just for the story and that's it. MP wise they are not the same, not even remotely.

If you need one game to be afraid of, that game is League of Legends, or Dota 2, as many call it.