I dont know what the game is about, but a Sedna with 5 All-Fathers Ring says hello to both of you

Poisoned Daggers > Swift Anklets.  Poisoned arrows cancels Inner Beast.

Remember, the Rook doesn't need to be faster than you.  He just needs you to be slow enough to be Boulder Smashed.

Swift anklet make all other favor items obsolete. There are good favor items, sure. But it doesn't matter. If you don't take it, the ones who did will be faster than you, and you can never run from them when they are killing you and you will never catch them when they run away. It's that simple. It needs to go. There should not be any favor item that bosts speed. Because if there is, it will be obligatory.

Boots of speed need to go too. Speed items should be really expensive, so you really have to sacrifice something else to be faster. Maybe make some artifacts with with various stats, and some +speed. The speed should be costly on the item budget.

Keep short duration +speed items. The ones you have to activate to flee or catch up to someone. The ones where you have to think about when to use them. Do I catch this guy and leave myself open to being chased down with no escape option?

Lastly, increase the speed of all demigods a little bit. By now everyone has gotten used to having all these speed items, and it feels really sluggish to have them move at default speed.

Giants said hello to your citadel about 2 hours ago.

Um, hacks? You do realize that's not possible, right?

Then you still have the 4 seconds of the -10% from my diseased claws.  With base speeds of 5.4 for the rook and 6.3 for the UB I still think the UB would be faster.  But really by the time we get far enough into the game for poisoned arrows, my UB wouldn't be the one running away

EDIT: Actually most likely the game would be over by the time we ever reached that point.

Speed is not that big of a deal, must demigods have stuns and speed reduction. although i never encounter much of a problem since i play mostly sedna.

I buy boots in maybe half the games i play and the anklet in none of them. Speed helps, but I think in most cases it's not necessary.

My first few games of Demigod I thought the same thing. "The fastest demigods win?! They can chase you down and run away, unstoppable!"

This would almost be true if the only objective was to kill Demigods. Mostly it's to destroy the Citidel/Fortress/Hold Flags. If your opponent is faster than you...don't chase him. Just hang out with your creeps and work on the towers. If your opponent is faster than you and tries to chase you, hang out with your own towers. Spend your money on health/armor/damage. That way you don't have to run, you can just kill him.

I think in the beginning when we are worrying about getting kills speed seems so important for the chase/run dance. But when you look at the bigger picture, your strategies get better, and you know when to retreat sooner, it's definitely not a +speed arms race.

I myself do not like the current situtation of speed items in the game, in particular how they are almost absolutely neccessary. I get the boots of speed literally every game no matter which demigod I'm playing, and I also get the wand of speed about 75% of the time.

They certainly need to be reworked.

I agree with the people who said that all speed boost items should see a significant cost increase. Also, the swift anklet should be removed, when 95% of people get the same favor item, that says something. Fortunately it seems the majority of the players, myself included, play with favor disabled.

The game also could use some items that have more depth, I think someone suggested an item that increases speed for an amount of time, and then afterwards decreases it. That would be good, this game needs more items that involve actual strategy to use.

to show how stupid this conversation is , every1 else seemed to get it , maybe you didnt think that through huh !

run speed + heart of live = god mode Beta version.

I'm fairly content with the way speed works right now, but wouldn't mind it changing.

I don't think it would be a bad idea if speed items didn't stack. Then you'd just have the bonus from the highest +speed you have from items plus any DG speed abilities.

What would be wrong with that?

This is a basic strategy. Assuming your enemy has stacked speed, they've forsaked three inventory spots which could provide valuable attributes else where - HP and Mana plus regen, Armour, DPS - and are at a disadvantage. The counter is to strack what they didn't - you only get one or two hits before they're off like the wind, so you need to make them count.

I'd like to see slowing effects altered rather than speed effects - instead of slowing your enemy by a certain amount, lower your enemies speed to a certain amount, temporarily negating the benefits of their Speed boosts.

The problem with run speed is that, unlike how some have said, it doesn't function like armour. Armor is progressively useful the more you have. The enemy getting more armour doesn't devalue your own armour - it still functions exactly like you want.

Now the difference with run speed is you buy it in order to chase down your enemy and not be chased down yourself. As long as you are just a little bit faster you gain that benefit. Anything further and you don't gain more of that use from it. Similarly, if you are a little bit slower than your enemy, you might as well not have any speed items.

So you end up with a situation where the faster demigod gains all the chasing advantage and the slower demigod's investment into speed is wasted.

Winner takes all.

Imagine if your armour stopped working if your enemy's was higher. That's run speed on items. Because the advantage of being able to chase or run is so large, we see the majority of people engage in the arms race.

Just get wyrmskinns and kill him with your superior hp/mana/damage

For that much amount of +speed, you could have like +1000 armor, 500 Hps and 15 HPs regen.

I don't need to flee if you are doing pathetic damage.

Then he brings a friend, or he plays a demigod that is better at 1v1 combat. What do you do now? You're not fast enough to flee from them. If they are faster than you, you will die every time you face more than one opponent.

you will die every time you face more than one opponent.

You just answered your own question.

Since he's faster than you he can KITE YOU.  Especially if he's a ranged hero.  Your extra 1000 armor 500 Hp and 15 HP regen is meaningless if you can't even hit them.

You won't die if YOU ARE FASTER THAN THEM AND CAN RUN AWAY! +1000 health/armor/whatever won't save you, but +speed will. Can't belive I had to explain that.

Do you die every time you come across 2 enemy demigods? I pity your teammates.

The point of my post was that +speed is -far- to cheap on the item budget for what it does. Or possibly just broken as a game mechanic.  As long as there are people buying speed items, you will have to too if you want to stay competetive.

You will die, because the SNIPE will get you

I'm pretty happy with the current options...  I tend to think of speed as very much worth while, but I play as erebus, and tend to overextend myself so running away happens frequently.  If I played more cautiously and got +HP and +Minion items I probably wouldn't need the speed as much.

rhymfaxe, it is possible to retreat without having greater move speed.  
There are several tactics that make it possible, including leaving the fight earlier, having an aly cover your retreat, teleporting out via an ability or consumable.

You're also right that it is possible to make retreat quite difficult and some times outright impossible through the use of teamwork and clever play, we get that point.

You should consider our point, that in the vast majority of cases in game a slower speed demigod will be able to retreat successfully.

I dont usually get speed items and do not get the swift anklet. I seem to do just fine.