Am i the only one ? Good online yey cant beat Hard Tournament?

I am good at online games id say iv won 70% or so iv been involved in and have always been stuck in the fight doing well.

Yet I play the Hard AI tournament and my AI team just doesnt do good enough i find wherever i am its doin great making progress and on the otherside of the arena my AI teammates are struggiling .

Am i the only one ?

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Reply #1 Top

I think you'll find that most players online would even struggle against easy ai.  New game and some people don't pick it up quicker then others. That and trying to be the best may not appeal to everyone.

Reply #2 Top

agree, my teamates regularly ask me how i teleport around the map -_-

 

another stupid question was from the opposing team, HEY MAN, HOW COME I CANNOT CAP THIS FLAG?!?!

 

uhh because you see.. the capture lock....forget it.. report the bug :D

 

is it so hard to play the single player to figure out the game before you play online????!

Reply #3 Top

easy formula for tournament - on all modes but slaughter, don't forget to:

1) buy citadel upgrades

2) destroy towers

3) win

 

most people seem to not care about cit upgrades but those are what make a win or loss

Reply #4 Top

most people seem to not care about cit upgrades but those are what make a win or loss

 

Ugh wish the noobs would understand and see this.

 

Reply #5 Top

I have played single player for 20+ hrs and I have played mp games some.

But I dont know anything about this capture lock on flags what is it and where in the UI can you select it? Now I have only played 3 demigods so far, is it a rook only or something feature?

Sorry if its a stupid question, but seriously I consider myself a fast learner and never even heard of this.

Reply #6 Top

Well, the Team AI is quite...oh what's the word, oh, yeah, retarded, I play with Regulus and I get like about 10 or so kills in a row, and a team player gets 5 or so deaths in a row, and they never follow you, I once had to take on 3 DGs and miraculously, I killed 'em :). And yeah, citadel upgrades are reaaall important, only when I realised you can buy items at a Citadel was I able to beat Hard.

Reply #7 Top

I have trouble with Tournament games on Hard difficulty. Mostly seems to be caused by the friendly AIs ignoring the game objectives and doing nothing but feed the other team. I can't imagine what it's going to be like playing the Tournament on Nightmare...

Reply #8 Top

Rhah, for Capture Lock, it's a consumable you can buy and use on a flag to prevent it from being capturable for 45 seconds.  Really useful when you manage to grab an enemy's portal flag :)

Reply #9 Top

Buy it in the items. It is called the Capture Lock. Very handy, especially against enemy portal flags :) .

I find single player Tournament to be completely different from multiplayer. On hard, your team sucks completely and the enemy is a lot better. Citadel upgrades are pretty much the game winners. On multiplayer, it is the opposite. You can expect your team to keep up, except for one or two n00bies here or there on a 3v3 to 5v5. Citadel upgrades are pretty useless when you can get better gear, unless it is the gold, experience, cata, or giant upgrades.

Reply #10 Top

Quoting Rhah, reply 5
I have played single player for 20+ hrs and I have played mp games some.

But I dont know anything about this capture lock on flags what is it and where in the UI can you select it? Now I have only played 3 demigods so far, is it a rook only or something feature?

Sorry if its a stupid question, but seriously I consider myself a fast learner and never even heard of this.

It's an item you can purchase.

Reply #12 Top

Ive never lost a match in a hard single player tournament. Yes my AI sometimes struggle so its important to use teleport scrolls or be extra mobile and shore up areas where defense is weak. The AI is thankfully very easy to kill so its never too hard to make up for the failings of your own AI teammates.

Reply #13 Top

Just rewrite the whole AI. Seriously.
In harder modes they shouldn't be cheating, they should be smarter.
"Harder" shouldn't mean that your AI team suddenly becomes dumb and sometimes just stands there doing nothing, it should mean that the opponent becomes better.

Also, the AI should "play the game".
If it's a flag holding game, it should play to hold the flags. If it's a killing game, it should play to kill. Instead the AI ALWAYS tries to go for the citadel. During fortress destroying games, given the choice, the AI chooses to go to the citadel instead of destroying a fortress that's RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF IT.

That is not the way to write an AI.

Yeah, "it's not that easy", some of you will say. They manage to do it in other games, don't they?

Reply #14 Top

Well, My team is usually consisted of screw-ups, i.e when I get Sedna, she dies very easily, but when the enemy AI plays with her, I can't kill her!! I try, I try, she silences me, then she heals herself, in average I kill her only 1, maybe 2 times

Reply #15 Top

Quoting Axnor, reply 11
why would you need capture lock? I've never used that

 

its so useful, geez use your imagination..

Reply #16 Top

Yeah, and they shouldn't be just standing in front of the flag. Maybe they should try capturing it from time to time?

Reply #17 Top

Sweet I guess i need to go over the items more ;).

Yes and I agree the AI needs better scripts, they are basically retards with extra resources. Most games with AI, the AI actually does some work toward the greater good of the task. And AI should work together even if they are AI on your team.

<edit> Had to add another AI rant :)

Single player would be a much more enjoyable if AI actually had some decent scripts. As it is now single player after 1 day or so even thats stretching it is so boring that i feel like beating my head against the kb.

Reply #18 Top

Quoting Rhah, reply 5
I have played single player for 20+ hrs and I have played mp games some.

But I dont know anything about this capture lock on flags what is it and where in the UI can you select it? Now I have only played 3 demigods so far, is it a rook only or something feature?

Sorry if its a stupid question, but seriously I consider myself a fast learner and never even heard of this.

 

Capture lock is an item you can buy from the store.  From Demiwiki :

Capture Lock (250 gold)

Mana Cost: 0
Range: 15 Yards
Casting Time: 1.0 Seconds
Cooldown: 45 Seconds
Use: Selected ally flag cannot be captured by the enemy for 45 seconds.


EDIT: Wow 13 replies by the time it took me to write my reply :(
Reply #20 Top

awesome 45 seconds plus (im guessing here) about 30 seconds for enemy to recapture. Thats is very sweet.

Reply #22 Top

Quoting Axnor, reply 11
why would you need capture lock? I've never used that

 

um capture a flag thats near their portal slam that lock on it and bam run away they can do crap till 45 secs to recap it

Reply #23 Top

yeah AI is so terrible in this game its unbelievable.  I beat Nightmare with TB tho lol.  Unclean beast is so broken when hes on the other team.  So unfair!  I always get regulus and hes TERRIBLE when hes on my team.  He doesn't even snipe low characters.  And QoT runs into a pack of DG's with mass creeps and dies almost instantly.  But when shes on the other team shes a freakin tank. XO

Reply #24 Top

Same scenario for me. Getting the hang of playing online now (when it works) but hard tournaments are well, hard. Going to go for total focus on the citadel upgrades now, see if that helps.