Singleplayer/Multiplayer Game 'Sluggish'

Reply #1 April 17, 2009 11:21 AM from

Stardock Forums Top

Hmmm, the first thing that jumped out to me (other than making sure your drivers are upto date) is the fact you have an AMD processor. I know its a long shot, but have you got the AMD dual core optimizer installed? It can help with game performance in some cases.

Here is the link for the optimizer if you havn't got it already.

http://support.amd.com/us/Processor_TechDownloads/DCO_1.1.4.zip

Reply #2 April 17, 2009 11:29 AM from

Demigod Forums Top

The AMD Dual Core Optimizer won't run on Vista 64-bit. I hadn't considered that though. At least the last time I checked anyway. I'll do some research and see if it is out yet.

I am running the latest video drives (182.50). I'll check on sound (I have some Realtek AC888(?) on board card), though with the /nosound switch that shouldn't make a difference (yet).

Thanks!

[edit] I misspoke, apparently you don't need the Optimizer in Vista (and it won't install in most cases).

Reply #3 April 17, 2009 12:23 PM from

Demigod Forums Top

Bumping the thread - this is a legit issue that's happening to far more people than just me.

Reply #4 April 17, 2009 3:25 PM from

Demigod Forums Top

I actually have very similar issues.

AMD 64 X2 2.2 Dual Core
ATI Radeon 4850 512mb
4gb ram
Vista Ultimate

There's no reason why I couldn't run this game free of hiccups on native 1080 resolution with medium settings. What gives?

Reply #5 April 17, 2009 3:50 PM from

Demigod Forums Top

I'll add my two cents here, in the hope that even though I've mentioned it before, that eventually Gas Powered will read it. Game works fine for a while then eventually dips to really bad FPS. But after 20 secs or so it'll be fine for a while, then get bad again. I had the beta and this did not happen. I updated my sound drivers (it's the Realtek high definition audio codec driver). I have not yet tried /nosound, but considering the game works fine for a while with sound, it seems that isn't (or at least shouldn't) be the issue.

-HM

Reply #6 April 17, 2009 4:06 PM from

Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Hollow, reply 5

I'll add my two cents here, in the hope that even though I've mentioned it before, that eventually Gas Powered will read it. Game works fine for a while then eventually dips to really bad FPS. But after 20 secs or so it'll be fine for a while, then get bad again. I had the beta and this did not happen. I updated my sound drivers (it's the Realtek high definition audio codec driver). I have not yet tried /nosound, but considering the game works fine for a while with sound, it seems that isn't (or at least shouldn't) be the issue.

-HM

End of Hollow's quote

Boo. I have the exact same AUdio drivers, and I believe those are up to date (again, running with /nosound, so). Just kinda rambling here in an effort to keep this topic noticed!

I was able to get a tiny boost by enabling nVidia's mutli-cpu core option in the nViai Control panel. I'll find the exact setting when I get home and post it with my dxdiag.

Reply #7 April 17, 2009 4:10 PM from

Demigod Forums Top

ptalbot, did you try /nosound? If so, did it make the framerate drops go away? I have not tried yet.

It's maddening because for me most of the time it's fine. It's just near endgame that it starts to go bad and erratic. And again, never happened in beta. I have an e6600 dual core with NVIDIA GF8800 GTS. WinXP SP3 w/2GB RAM.

-HM

Reply #8 April 17, 2009 4:16 PM from

Demigod Forums Top

Per my original post - I am currently only playing the game with /nosound. It DID help - a little. My game settings are in the original post as well s my computer stats. So, while the /nosound made a difference... eh. I still would like to play at something better than basically Low settings.

Reply #9 April 17, 2009 4:20 PM from

Demigod Forums Top

I've got a 3ghz C2D, 9800GTX+, 4 gigs ram, Vista Prem., and this thing runs like a dog SP or MP. I know I don't have an extreme setup or anything, but it runs Crysis way more smoothly than this on Very High, 2X AA. I know it's pretty and it's got alot of number crunching to do with all the little units, but cmon, it isn't THAT impressive. A computer with mid range specs should be running this smooth as butter with the settings cranked (all but AA, anyway.) As it is every game feels really sluggish and there's a hiccup whenever any major event happens.

I agree that the multiplayer is the most glaring problem atm, but this is a close second. If the game sucked otherwise it wouldn't be an issue, but it's clear there is a damn fine game underneath all these technical problems -- hope they get it sorted out soon.

Reply #10 April 17, 2009 4:22 PM from

Demigod Forums Top

Trust me, in beta this game ran great on my rig at 1680x1050 with 8x AA. No reason for the crawling slowdowns now that it's in official release. For me, it's as if some other process kicks off which taxes the game so the framerate drops. Then it goes away, then it comes back. Peculiar as hell.

-HM

Reply #11 April 17, 2009 4:45 PM from

Demigod Forums Top

I just tried /nosound -- performance becomes totally smooth with everything maxed out (except AA). The only problem is there's... /nosound

Reply #12 April 17, 2009 8:01 PM from

Demigod Forums Top

Finally home, here's my DXdiag:

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System Information

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Time of this report: 4/17/2009, 19:57:41

Machine name: EVILTWINTEPE-PC

Operating System: Windows Vista™ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.090302-1506)

Language: English (Regional Setting: English)

System Manufacturer: MSI

System Model: MS-7374

BIOS: Default System BIOS

Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 FX-62 Dual Core Processor (2 CPUs), ~2.8GHz

Memory: 4094MB RAM

Page File: 1266MB used, 7098MB available

Windows Dir: C:\Windows

DirectX Version: DirectX 10

DX Setup Parameters: Not found

DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes

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Display Tab 1: No problems found.

Sound Tab 1: No problems found.

Sound Tab 2: No problems found.

Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels

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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)

DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)

DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)

DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)

DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)

DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)

DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices

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Manufacturer: NVIDIA

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Display Memory: 2536 MB

Dedicated Memory: 745 MB

Shared Memory: 1791 MB

Current Mode: 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)

Monitor: Dell 2407WFP (Digital)

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D3D Status: Enabled

AGP Status: Enabled

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Sound Devices

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Description: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)

Default Sound Playback: Yes

Default Voice Playback: Yes

Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0888&SUBSYS_14627374&REV_1000

Manufacturer ID: 1

Product ID: 100

Type: WDM

Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys

Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5657 (English)

Driver Attributes: Final Retail

WHQL Logo'd: Yes

Date and Size: 7/3/2008 17:03:48, 1477272 bytes

Other Files:

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HW Accel Level: Basic

Cap Flags: 0xF1F

Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000

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HW Memory: 0

Voice Management: No

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I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No

Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

Description: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)

Default Sound Playback: No

Default Voice Playback: No

Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0888&SUBSYS_14627374&REV_1000

Manufacturer ID: 1

Product ID: 100

Type: WDM

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Date and Size: 7/3/2008 17:03:48, 1477272 bytes

Other Files:

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Cap Flags: 0xF1F

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Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices

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Description: Microphone (3- Logitech Microphone (Fusion))

Default Sound Capture: Yes

Default Voice Capture: Yes

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Driver Version: 6.00.6001.18000 (English)

Driver Attributes: Final Retail

Date and Size: 1/19/2008 02:33:58, 98816 bytes

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Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

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DirectInput Devices

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Attached: 1

Controller ID: n/a

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Device Name: Keyboard

Attached: 1

Controller ID: n/a

Vendor/Product ID: n/a

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Controller ID: 0x0

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Attached: 1

Controller ID: 0x0

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Device Name: Logitech BT Mini-Receiver

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Device Name: Logitech BT Mini-Receiver

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USB Devices

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| Vendor/Product ID: 0x10DE, 0x077B

| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub

| Service: usbhub

| Driver: usbhub.sys, 1/19/2008 02:34:13, 270336 bytes

| Driver: usbd.sys, 1/19/2008 02:33:53, 7680 bytes

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| | Matching Device ID: usb\class_09

| | Service: usbhub

| | Driver: usbhub.sys, 1/19/2008 02:34:13, 270336 bytes

| |

| +-+ USB Human Interface Device

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| | | Location: Port_#0003.Hub_#0005

| | | Matching Device ID: generic_hid_device

| | | Service: HidUsb

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| | | Driver: hidclass.sys, 1/19/2008 02:33:52, 48640 bytes

| | | Driver: hidparse.sys, 1/19/2008 02:33:52, 31616 bytes

| | |

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