1.03 BUG THREAD:

New political parties do not show up their shaded colors in the domestic screen. (I'm playing industrialists- white, and only BLACK shows up).

~SDC~
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Alt-Tabbing no longer friendly.

Espionage and Destabilization have been FLIPPED? So spending on Esp goes to Dest and visa versa!?!? I'll check this one again, but this looks bad.

~SDC~
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Ok the esp/dest thing looks like just a wierd graphics glitch from alt-tabbing and such... but the game IS now unstable in alt-tabbing and when I close it it locks my system now. :( Has done this through three reboots.

~SDC~
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hi, I noticed that one of the anomolies is supposed to give +2 morale from a sound device, but it gives +2 defense on the stat page.
(I noticed this in the older version too)
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I've been alt tabbing for an hour now and it's working fine here. In fact, I'm switching right now between the game and typing this.

~SDC~
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Trading trade goods for money doesnt seem to be effective at all now..i can get like 80 credits once where i used to get 100x10 at least..

is this me or ?
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My issue as well is alt-tabbing. I was wrong in my other post, it has nothing to do with being online or using IE. I'm getting intermittent hangs when either alt-tabbing out or quitting the game. We're talkig total system lockup, reset button time.

I'm did a reinstall (from CD) and I'm now getting 1.03 (and only that) again. We'll see.
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"but everything works fine on my machine..."

if i had a nickel for every time i've heard a developer say that one... ;)

cheers

h
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I still see no sign that the Military or Social production bonuses you get from party/ability picks do anything at all, and I've experimented a fair bit with this. I AM aware that there is no bonus production given, just capacity. Maybe I completely misunderstand what is meant by "capacity". To me, that means that at any given point in the game if I have +50 Military production but no Social bonus I should be able to spend more per turn when the slider is set to 100% Military than when it's on 100% Social. I've seen no evidence of this working at all.

There are people on this forum who will swear up and down that this feature is working just fine...what am I missing?? Can somebody show me hard evidence that an empire Military/Social production bonus does anything?
I'm still convinced it's bugged, unless:

The bonus applies to the maximum production your planet can have without penalty. THAT would explain why I don't see a damn thing in the early game from this bonus. Anybody?
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I'm sorry, Brad, but there's a problem with 1.03 -- at least for me. I had no problems at all prior to 1.03.

I did a re-install and then got only the 1.03 patch. Same thing. I will intermittently hang when alt-tabbing out or quitting the game normally. Sometimes the error message mentions IExplorer, which is a tad bizarre.

I'm using no user mods. I installed DirectX 9 from the CD. System specs (yeah, I know): P3 866, 512 meg RAM, SB Live, GeForce 256 (DDR).

Going back to an earlier patch until you resolve this.
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What OS you running by chance?

I've put in a message to the team to double check this. I don't know anythign taht could change this.

I will say that I am *constantly* alt-tabbing when I play and I haven't had any problems. So I'm not sure what the deal is.
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I find the scroll button on my mouse ONLY moves the politcal parties up and down on the Economic Screen... Even when my mouse is hovering over the tax or spending sliders only the political parties on the right scroll...

Very annoying.. :sniff!:
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Hey guys, I wanted to add my early input from doing several quick games.

-I have the slider error too (that Baerd speaks of). There is no way to get the slider to do anything beyond moving the political party section of the screen, which is pretty much worthless.

-Every game I start exits to desktop with an error (GDI failure, I believe). Then, I can click on the task and get back in without a problem. It's a pain, and I hope it can be fixed soon, but I can still play!

-I still can't see the use of Military or Social bonuses. No matter what test I try, these two bonus types seem fruitless. Bug, Interface Issue, or Stupid Player Syndrome? Either way, I'll take input on the matter.

-The computer seems to be getting high PQ planets at incredible speed (playing on Intelligent). That isn't a bug or a problem really, I'm just floored at how tough things are this time around. I am undefeated before, and now I'm fighting for my life at every turn. This is kind of a good thing, honestly. Not that I'm missing that +15 PQ option. I would never use anything like that. (/steps out of BS pile)

I'm using Windows ME, DX9.0a, Athlon XP 2000, KT400 MB, Nvidia Ge4200.

Thanks for the work, Brad! This game is up there with SE4 and Moo2 for me, and that is a high compliment in my book. If you can make me an X-Com game, then I'll truly be in your debt, lol. :)
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I had a great game going when I installed the 1.3 patch. Now all of my colonies morale has dropped to 1-10%, before patch I was around 60-100 in all colonies. (:( I wish I did not find the darn patch now I was playing HUGH map almost finished I was winning too for once. ;p :d

~SDC~
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Desert Fox: Saw your post to the "1.03 Notice on saved games"

It's not unexpected for new versions to make old saves unplayable. Generally, if you have a game in progress, it's better to hold off patching until you finish.

~SDC~
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Yeah mouse scroll wheel has lost a lot of it's GOOD funtionality in the domestic screen. This is really bad as it's a chore in there now. It used to be really nice.

Alt-tabbing still bad for me: WinME. 512 MB.

Colony morale seems better balanced in this version though, still a bit easy, I think but playable.

~SDC~
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I'm having the weirdest problem: the economic screen is miscalculating my income. It claims I'm making hundreds of credits a turn, but my account only goes up a few credits. When I set it to make only a few credits, I go into huge debt.

jason

~SDC~
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Trade goods are still very valuable for trade. But the AI now does a lot more economic analysis about giving away cash.
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BTW, I will ask that they change the mouse wheel support in the domestic screen back to the old behavior tomorrow.

As for the Win9x alt-tab thing, I have no idea. That's totally out of my area. But they'll look at it tomorrow.

Odds are there will be a 1.03.whatever tomorrow to fix those things.
Reply #20 Top
I chose the Industrialists for my political party. When the map first loads and I select Soil Enrichment and Colony Ship. It takes 16 turns using the default economic settings.

If I use the Control N function to regenerate a new map, construction time becomes 25 which is the normal value assuming I did not have the Industrialist bonus.

Repeat this several times. Forced to go back to main menu in order to get party bonus for initial turn.
Reply #21 Top
"I still can't see the use of Military or Social bonuses. No matter what test I try, these two bonus types seem fruitless. Bug, Interface Issue, or Stupid Player Syndrome? Either way, I'll take input on the matter"

Something I wondering myself.
If they are working can somebdoy explain please how I can notice the influence of these picks.... For me they clearly don´t do what it is stated in the manual.
Stupid player syndrome? ;)
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Posted by Jason Benett

"I'm having the weirdest problem: the economic screen is miscalculating my income. It claims I'm making hundreds of credits a turn, but my account only goes up a few credits. When I set it to make only a few credits, I go into huge debt."

Same problem here. Game started on 1.03, Large galaxy, crippling w/ universalists.

In addition, sometimes my treasury wont be updated until I open one of the screens accessed from the toolbar on the bottom of the screen.

On the flipside, AI seems much better now. Great work on the patch, and it is released much earlier than I antcipitated, so I retract the 'cheap-o' accusation. Thanks Brad.
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Bought the game 5 days ago, download version worked most of the time, in 1.02 things got bad,after 1.03 we a non runner. Just read in the newsgroup that there's also little hope for an improved manual (you know the kind that doesn't require a permanent connection to a newsgroup) so I dumped the game. Another $45 rip off.
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Don't know if anyone else sees this..

Did the upgrade to 1.03 by StarDock lastnight (game has been installed and unpdated continously by StarDock).

Now it appears that a few of the ship images are missing.. They don't appear on the screen or in the planets orbit (though they can still be selected..

Anyone else seen this? Any suggestions?
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My question is, the alt tabbing problem is it showing up on Windows 2k pro? Kind of important for me or can it be run within a window?