Firefox 3.................

For those of you who feel brave........the first beta version of Firefox 3 is out now.

DOWNLOAD LINK WWW Link

Leo waits patiently for IE8   
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I heard 80% of the reported bugs will not be fixed in the release. That is what I call serious competition to Microsoft   
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been using firefox 3 beta for about 6 months now, codename minefield so far no problems even though most of the extensions and addons don't work with it.
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I hear one of the biggest complaints are memory leaks   
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I heard 80% of the reported bugs will not be fixed in the release.
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Reports of Firefox 3.0 bugs overblown, most significant bugs squashed

By Ryan Paul

...stated that approximately 80 percent of the bug reports currently characterized as blockers will not be closed before the Firefox 3 release. This statement has been broadly misinterpreted in the press, largely as the result of a New York Times article which conveyed the statistic without framing it in the proper context. The Times claimed that 80 percent of the bugs would not be fixed, when in reality, resolution of those bugs have simply been deferred so that they don't delay the release.
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Full story here

I heard that Elvis was still alive and we never went to the moon......
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The Times claimed that 80 percent of the bugs would not be fixed, when in reality, resolution of those bugs have simply been deferred so that they don't delay the release.
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Now that's one of the worst attempts at spinning something I have ever read

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Now that's one of the worst attempts at spinning something I have ever read
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Did you read the link? In case you didn't, here's a bit more spin:-

"In every release cycle, everyone wants every bug to block a release and therefore everyone is 'blocker-happy,' and later in the cycle, all are changed to non-blocker status except the most critical as perceived by developers, drivers, and testers," writes Accettura. "[E]very bug you fix, feature you add introduces new code, which potentially causes new bugs in other places. Even if you devote 100% effort to fixing bugs, you'll likely never get there... Every project involves deciding what bugs ship, and what holds a release. Every single one. If there's someone who doesn't, it means their QA is likely flawed or inadequate."
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In response to overblown concerns that a large number of Firefox's bugs will not be resolved, Firefox community coordinator Asa Dotzler has characterized such claims as "horses***." Dotzler points out that over 11,000 bugs reports and feature requests have already been closed and classified as fixed, a number that dwarfs the remaining 700 blockers.
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Mozilla technical strategist Mike Shaver has also responded. "'Bug' in our world—as with with every software shop I've ever worked, to be honest—includes desired feature improvements, optimizations, basically everything in the gap between 'how the software is' and 'how someone would like the software to be'," explains Shaver. "Because of history and some tool limitations, and because we now have a larger set of people triaging blocker nominations than we ever have before, the 'blocking' flag doesn't always strictly mean 'we would not ship Firefox 3 if this specific bug isn't fixed."
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Now it's obviously a beta that's out there, and many current extensions don't work with the new beta, but, as we know from so many discussions is this forum, that there are also at least 2 (50) sides to every argument, and that the original article about the 80% unfixed bugs came from a New York Times and was picked up and spread around without much thought. This is just a response to that. It's written on the 'ars technica' site, which is a respected technology site.
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that there are also at least 2 (50) sides to every argument,
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There are 3 sides to every argument. New York TImes's biased spin, ars technica's biased spin, and then there is the truth somewhere in between.
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There are 3 sides to every argument. New York TImes's biased spin, ars technica's biased spin, and then there is the truth somewhere in between
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The truth is out there......somewhere......we definitely agree on that

I am looking forward to the new release of FF...I hope it's a step forward, although I have no complaints about FF 2.
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And here's an interesting article on Zdnet WWW Link

This was one of the reasons why I got rid of Firefox 2 off my machine. Memory useage was poor and other browsers were quicker. Let's hope that 3 will solve these issues.
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A test was done comparing the two versions of Firefox yesterday with interesting results

LINKWWW Link
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Firefox 2.0.0.9 is so awesome, they can keep 3.0 until microsoft actually comes up with a browser that can challenge it. Which will obviously be forever. I mean IE7 and it is still not even close to being friendly or useful, let alone a security risk...

Firefox Rocks
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jschizas, I think Firefox has had it's fair share of security issues too........
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If anyone want to see how FireFox performs compared IE7, go to my homepage WWW Link using IE7 and FireFox. See which one loads it better. Now, try to scroll up and down.

I have posted more details about this test on that page.
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I am tryin FF 3 now and the only issue I have is that the Bookmark addons or any other thing doesn't work with WB 6..


I don't think its a WB or a FireFox issue.. I think its just that Firefox didn't think to make 3 work with WB 6.. or something like that


It works fine when I unload wb.... But I still have 2.9 to use for Firefox so even though 3 don't work with WB , it can still run..


I just wonder if it will work with WB in final release.. *thinks*


Anne
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I heard 80% of the reported bugs will not be fixed in the release. That is what I call serious competition to Microsoft   
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What competition??? Haven't used IE since firefox came out,and won't ever go back since I started using WindizUpdate to update windows....
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Menus arent working for me.
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it's fast...and I've found no problems so far....nice.....
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Been using gran paradiso for a while glad i saw this thread i was unaware it's been upgraded coz the update button sure did'nt tell me
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I use FF 2.0.0.9 and just today here at WC it was using
122,445K of mem usage and pegged the CPU to 95 to 97 %
which made it show going downloading Skins oh and had about 6 to 10 tabs open

as I type this mem usage is 77,358K... with 4 tabs open
CPU 0 to 5%

but like it better them IE
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The new version 2.0.0.10 seems to be working a little better. Maybe they fixed some memory leak and graphics issues.
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Beta 3 runs fine for me not that'd i'd know what to look for when testing for bugs anyway,so far however it seems to run pretty much the same as ff2,as for memory leakage i can't report any real major changes i've been gradualy getting worse year after year, don't laugh your not far behind ;p
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Version 2.0.0.11 is out today.
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FireFox 2.0.0.11 keeps crashing on my work computer.