PowerArchiver Skinning Contest Winners Announced

There were a lot of great submissions. Good job everyone!

Congrats! Personally I like the pixel pirate's skin!

And my little question is: The FrostBite by Marc A. Foumberg uses the frames of my EulB wb skin, right? http://jjying.wincustomize.com/ViewSkin.aspx?SID=6552&SkinID=4867&LibID=1

Some nice looking skins.

I still can't believe I missed this contest.......

The FrostBite by Marc A. Foumberg uses the frames of my EulB wb skin, right?

 

You got a pretty strong case JJ.

Oh, and congrats Pixel Pirate.

And my little question is: The FrostBite by Marc A. Foumberg uses the frames of my EulB wb skin, right?

Pretty blatant theft that is. How pathetic.

Ah, I can try to get up with Marc about it. He usually hangs out on the Opera browser forums.

Edit: I sent him a private message on the Opera forums. You can get some of his contact info if you want here: http://my.opera.com/MarcFou/about/

Skinner JJ Ying: I created the images my self. The colors are the same however.

But I have seen your skin under another name on a different site. Thats where I got the idea for the color scheme. They look almost the same.

I would be more than willing to include you in a "credits" text file included with the PA skin to help remedy the problem.

But honestly, every image I created in PSP v10.

I would like to discuss this further with you offline. I will send you an email with my address. I would really like to resolve this with you.

Regards,
Marc

Citizen MarcFou I created the images my self. The colors are the same however.

Thats going to be tough. After looking at the image on PowerArchiver site and jjyings. It's pixel for pixel gradient for gradient, button for button, corner for corner. Everything perfectly lines up graphically.

Though what do I know. Matters should be dealt privately.

vf-: I dont know. I would have to download EulB to look at it. As I've already stated I got the colors from another skin altogether.

I havent heard back from JJ as of yet. But in the mean time I am re-working some elements to create a greater distinction between my work and his. I dont mind doing that and it will help clear this up beyond any doubt.

I will communicate with JJ happily and submit my proposed changes etc.

Regards,
Marc

Basically, my EulB is just a simple skin, I totoally believe you can do it much better than me.

But, after I looked into your skin, I have to say, it's not done by you! You know, apparent vertical gradient in toolbar bg is not common in wb skins, especially when the window frames use the same grandient. Because after stretched, the toolbar bg won't match the window frames well. As a very very beginner, I have no idea to resolve this when making EulB more than one years ago, but in you skins, I DO found this mismatch between toolbar bg and window frames.

All I see you have done is just change the titlebar font and add (-/0/x) to the titlbar btn...

AND, your Slate skin looks damn like Sustenance! Have you ever mentioned KOL? Or just another coincidence?

I'm not using a gradient in toolbar bg. its a solid color. On that issue I really dont understand the statement.

To say all I did was change the title bar is in-accurate since that implies I used your skin. Which is not the case.

As for Slate. Thats MS's design. Created from screenshots. Many people mimic different OS themes. I have no more claim to it than anyone else.

I already have a satisfactory solution (I think). If you wish to contact me that would be great. Since it would be easier for us to communicate.

MS's design? Other skins? You 're GREAT!!! All right...I have no more words to say...

I tried to resolve this to YOUR satisfaction. Apparently thats not possible.

Within 48 hours the skin in question will have been modified to the point of unquestionable distinction or removed altogether.

Thank you for working with me to resolve the problem.

And thats all I have to say.

Thats an old screenshot. But this one is a bit more current. Although I plan on making some changes to it.



As for the slate comparisons there are some similarities, but since they are both based on the same theme thats expected.

But in the mean time I am re-working some elements to create a greater distinction between my work and his

Were I come from, that's called "covering your tracks".

I've looked at both skins and they aren't similar. Similar would mean it "kind of looks like it".
Sorry to say, but they are both "exact" copies.
If he created both from scratch, why change anything.

If he created both from scratch, why change anything.

Simply to make him happy. Why else? But since you put it in that perspective I really dont have to do anything. But I will.

hmmm ..as for me...i do copy from ppl work along time ago...just to see how he/she did it..and make something totally new...on your own..but i dont think i will use it as a competitions entries....the risk is tooo high...specially from high profile skins. Dont you think?

I can't believe you won 500 bucks ripping someones skin. You should be ashamed of yourself. The right thing to do would be admit it, remove the skin, refuse your prize money, and apologize to JJ.

Sorry... 125 bucks.

Just for the record I pointed this out to the people running the contest on May 17th. I sent them an email to let them know that their were strong similarities between his skins and other peoples work. I also provided links to the original skins here on wincustomize so they could see for themselves.

I compared pixtudios Nvidea skin to his Poison skin which also used Foood's iCandy Jr icons, Longhorn Plex M5 by Voodoo_Freak to his Longhorn skin, And Kols Sustanance to his Slate skin. The frostbite skin wasn't posted yet.

They acknowledge my email but requested that I confront him on the power archiver forums, which I did not do. I thought that was their responsibility once I brought it to their attention. Someone had already done that anyway as you can see at post #6 and #7 in this thread: http://www.powerarchiver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1570. But it was ignored. Notice too how he admits to "tweaking and adjusting" the graphics of the nvidea them. So far that is the only one that was removed but that was long after it was pointed out.

In the reply to me, they also cc'd a stardock employee whom I will not name. Whether or not they contacted him or not I don't know. But they were aware of it.

I compared pixtudios Nvidea skin to his Poison skin

That skin was intended to be a 100% replica. I downloaded it from NVidia and ported it to PA so it would match the win theme. I never, at any time claimed it to be mine. The name "NVidia" could not be used for the skin name i was told so it was renamed. I dont know how many times I have to say it. It was an intentional copy that I meant to be 100% identical in every way.

Notice too how he admits to "tweaking and adjusting" the graphics of the nvidea them.

I admit nothing except what I have already stated above. Its a non-issue.

which also used Foood's iCandy Jr icons

I have Jono's permission to use those icons as well as others.

Slate and Longhorn were created from OS images and screenshots. Neither myself or anyone else holds legal rights to the names or likeness of the themes. But thats another topic.

I offered to work with JJ and resolve this to his satisfaction. Despite 'others' comments I will remain civil since thats the best way to solve any problem. Although I have already initiated a resolution I am still open to communicating with JJ on the matter.

wouldn't be too difficult to prove if you remade the window frames in red for comparison. If you did it once you can do it again in a jiffy since they are not very complicated images.