Activation expiration

Pronounced ak-t&-'vA-sh&n "ek-"sploi-'tA-sh&n

Here's how they get ya.
Let's say you purchase Windowblinds.
You give them 20 dollars and they give you the software with the requirement that you get online and activate it.
All of this is perfectly reasonable, as only pirates would object.
The average honest coustomer doesn't have a problem jumping through whatever hoops the company requires - provided that the hoops are allways available to the consumer.
Why wouldn't they be?
Simple. Profit.
This model of doing buisness is one used by every software company that uses activation to twart piracy.
Stardock on the other hand deviates from this model in one very subtle and important way.
They include a window of opportunity to activate or upgrade. After that you are required to re-purchase another copy.
There's one main point to consider here.
You own the software.
You may not own every line of code that goes into it, as it's closed-source, but you have the right to install it, run it, and have it on your computer to use - for life. (yours or the computers - whichever comes first)
Even Microsoft will allow a person who purchased Windows XP in '01, if all else fails, pick up a phone in the year 2050 and get thier XP activated. They bought it, they have the right.
It's like the shirt you're wearing. You may not own the copywrite to the design, or brand name, but it's yours.
Imagine having to go back to the store and re-purchase it in a year or two if you want to wear it again (that is assuming that you'll need to take off at some point)
Sound fair?
It's not.
As long as you never re-install Windows and/or Windowblinds, you walk away the victor.
As for myself I own the full suite of Object Desktop.
In order to keep owning it, Stardock wants another 50 bucks. And eventually another 50...and another 50.
When I bought the software what I was really paying for was the ability to use that software for a limited time (unlimited if I never re-activate)
Now if your the sort of user who still has the original installation of Windows 95 on your daily computer because you've never needed to re-install/upgrade that OS, or any hardware (75 megahertz is just fine for you) then you'll be a happy consumer for many a year to come.
But if you bought Windowblinds in, say '04, and want to move to Vista next year, try writing Stardock and see if you don't get a prompt and courteous response asking you to give them more money.
Get out a calculator and do the math.
Just remember there's a limited number of times you can turn on that calculator for free - so keep it running!
Don't believe me yet...just wait.
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Reply #1 Top

I think you have misunderstood something.

If you buy a standalone app like WindowBlinds 5 then you will get all the released updates to it in the 5.x series.  The product needs to be activated on your pc, but if you reinstall your PC, or change PC then you can reactivate it.  If in the very unlikely event you hit the activation limit (to stop piracy), a quick e-mail to stardock will get it reset for you.

There is no time limit on activation that I know about.  If you have problems please contact support@stardock.com.

If you purchase ObjectDesktop then you get all updates to all of the apps on it for an entire year.  This includes any new apps added to it in that time.  If at the end of the year you decide not to subscribe again then as long as you have archived the apps using SDC you can continue to use them and reinstall them should you change PC.

Taking the example of buying WB standalone in 2004, yes you will have to pay an upgrade fee as you would have purchased WB4 which never claimed to run on the final version of Vista (a product now delayed until 2007 I believe)  I don't think its unreasonable to require an upgrade fee given the product in this example would be 3 years old at the time!

Reply #2 Top
Any software when it goes up 1 version, from 4 to 5 as windowblinds just has will require an upgrade fee.
I have an object desktop sub., just had to reinstall windows due to a virus, no activation problems.
Reply #3 Top

When I bought the software what I was really paying for was the ability to use that software for a limited time (unlimited if I never re-activate)

You have the software...to use...for the rest of your natural life....[or that of your computers' [plural] until they become extinct].

You also have any and all updates to that software for one calendar year from the date of initial purchase.

If [and only if] you wish to subscribe for FURTHER updates beyond that first year then there is a 'subscription' fee [note - that is not a re-purchase of the original software...you already have that].

Activation of this software is identical in feature and function to that employed by Microsoft.

All of this means you seriously missed the plot with the content of this thread....

Reply #4 Top
Interesting...

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Someone either has a warez version of ODNT or they haven't cross referenced their SD and WC accounts.
Reply #5 Top
I think you're all missing the OP point...

Buy OD today and install and activate it. Three months from now your computer crashes and you do a reformat and install of your OS, etc. - but don't install OD because you can't find the CD. Three years later you find the CD and install it on your PC, which is still running XP Pro SP2. After three years Stardock no longer provides the server/support desk to reactivate the software. You can't use the OD software!
Reply #6 Top
After three years Stardock no longer provides the server/support desk to reactivate the software. You can't use the OD software!


That's quite the assumption. Please contact SD in three years and ask to activate your WB 5.x build. Please post your response here.

I believe Brad & Co. are still going to be around providing great apps and giving amazing support.

{We'll still be waiting for teh Apogee Icon set though. }
Reply #8 Top
where is my serial number !?!?!?!?!


https://www.stardock.com/support.asp : enter your email address
Reply #9 Top

but don't install OD because you can't find the CD. Three years later you find the CD and install it on your PC, which is still running XP Pro SP2.


3yrs because I can't find the disk I bought in 2003? Not likely - never had any trouble getting my paid for and asundry download links by following the link Zubaz posted - hell, they sent me a link to an app that was included in my original purchase in 2003 but is not included in ODNT now.

Reply #10 Top
Stardock has sent me WebBlinds a few times over the years when I've reimaged or crashed and not backed up. Discontinued, unsupported, but still available if asked for nicely. One can ask for more . . . but wouldn't deserve it and most places . . . won't get it.

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Reply #11 Top
Another wanna be lawyer. It is no different than alot things you purchase. Buy a new Ford with a 5 year warranty. Who's to say Ford doesn't go out of business within that 5 years and can't cover the warranty? When you bought your last TV, did you consider the warranty would run out someday? Probably not, cause you got up on the right side of the bed that day.
Warranty=faith in the company you purchased a product from. Stardock has never done anything to break that trust. There are worse things to stress over.
Reply #12 Top
If at the end of the year you decide not to subscribe again then as long as you have archived the apps using SDC you can continue to use them and reinstall them should you change PC.

And if you havn't, you're redirected to purchase page.
If there is a way to not rebuy the software, then please let me know.
Reply #13 Top
I'm not interested in an update.
My problem is I'm not allowed to activate beyond my expiration.
When I try to activate I'm told my account infromation is expired.
I need reactivation without upgrades back to the original software I'm intitled to.
Each time I try, I'm redirected to the buy page.
Any upgrade to the versions I'm allowed doesn't take.
Unlimited activations on the original versions would be nice.
But unless they're archived before the reinstall, it's begining to seem I'm out of luck.
Can anyone give me tutorial on migrating the archive on a XP reinstall?
I'm reaching the point where I'm just going to give up and buy it all over again.
Reply #14 Top
dd: Enough is enough. If you spend 50 bucks on a "product" but don't bother to pay attention to what you are doing when you buy it then you get what you deserve. You shouldn't complain. The terms of the purchase are clearly spelled out by the sellers. Nothing is hidden. You want something for nothing evidently and in this world that is not going to happen.

Stardock is not doing anything wrong.

If you didn't archive the apps you shouldn't blame Stardock. That is your fault and your problem.
Reply #15 Top

Your legal and timely downloads of the programs you purchased can be archived [backed up] automatically.

The system is [mostly] foolproof.  When you buy something online and it exists ONLY as a file on your computer....yes...you have full rights to its use.

However.

It is then your 'property' and therefore your responsibility for its protection/longevity in your use.

Again, same thing applies with Microsoft's OS itself.

[Note....'property' is reliant on EULA as a definition]...

You make a copy...a backup.  You put it away on a CD somewhere.  That way, when the product is a decade or two out of date, and YOU are the only person on your block still using XP you will be able to still skin it with Windowblinds5, long after your children have advanced to Post-Vista WindowblindsX.

Backup of SD Install software is a simple process with Stardock Central, the recommended method for installing/updating/maintaining SD software...

Reply #16 Top

I am trying to determine whether to repurchase OD for $50 or buy a year ext. for $35.  My previous subscription ran out May of '05.  If I buy an extension, does that mean it will run out in two months, May of '06, or will it be a year from purchase date?

Reply #17 Top
it should be a year from purchase or a year added to current (not expired) - you can email sales to make sure