Internet music piracy

Stepping back from the legality to look at the morality

Since the inception of the internet, one of the fundemental functions was that of file sharing; the ability to transfer files from one node of the network to another. However, with the invention of the compact disk drive and the CD burner, both of which now come standard on most PCs, people realized that the computer and the internet can be used for more than just research or entertainment, but for communistically sharing music.

The idea for such programs as Kazza dates back centuries, to a time when what someone needed, such as food, was shared within a community. This idea has remained with us through the years, and resurfaced in the mid 20th century with the rise of communism. Communism is another way of collectively sharing resources for the good of the many, not the good of the few. This idea, however, failed because it was strictly enforced by a government. And ironically, communism doesn't work well with established governments.

With the advent of the Internet and the aformentioned components, the communist ideal resurfaced once again, but this time in an effort to provide an alternate source of music to the costly CDs and cassettes sold by the record companies. Thus, the birth of modern music piracy. And it took the government a while to figure out what was happening, but while the record companies were still in ignorant bliss, the rest of the world was downloading the music that they needed.

Now there are two ways to look at this piracy. The first viewpoint is that of the downloader. This person may be driven to download for a variety of reasons, among which may be convenience, lack of funds, or just a want for one particular song, not the entire CD. And then there are extenuationg circumstances. For example, songs that are no longer available in stores are mostly available online in music sharing communities. One prime example of this is the old man, who was fined so much that it forced him out of retirement in order to maintain a simalance of his previous standard of living. The old man in fact was not downloading hip music readily available in stores, but rare oldies available only illegaly online.

And then there is the perspective of the music companies. These corporations have been steadily losing income because of this piracy, and it has forced them to resort to drastic measures to ensure that people will once again buy their CDs. For example, they have drastically reduced the prices of their products, making them more available to the public. Also, they have started a smear campaign against piracy, in which it appeals to our morality in an attempt to make us voulentarily stop piracy of their products. In addition, they have filed lawsuits against every single person they catch downloading their music, which mind you is not many, but still significant.

So there it is, the basic arguments for and against music piracy as I see them. If anyone has anything to add to this, please feel free to do so, but keep in mind that this is not a legal argument, but a moral one.
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Reply #1 Top
I buy CD's. But I wouldn't if I didn't download music, cuz I'm not gonna buy something unless I know it's good. "Piracy" has made me a customer, and I'm not the only one.

~Dan
Reply #2 Top
Information wants to be free. bits are bits are bits. zeroes and ones.

ponder that. more later.
Reply #3 Top
The Music Industry is handling the issue incorrectly by suing the end user.

They have actually been doing the right thing for a while now - albeit in a clandestine fashion.

What they need to do is ALLOW file sharing over the net. charge some rediculous price for a membership (i.e. $1) and then use the information on what people are downloading and use it for marketing purposes.

Surely they can locate and market the next big thing... and make a killing anyway.

It all comes down to greed. I am familiar with intellectual property laws, but music should always be free.
Reply #4 Top
Muggaz what do you do for a living? Just curious.

Should...say - software always be free ?
Reply #5 Top
Music appeals to the masses.

Software doesn't.

I AM A PIMP!
Reply #6 Top
I heard a discussion on the radio once, and wonder how much this is true. One man was talking about how he used to have a favorite record store. He visited often, and was allowed to listen to music to test out before purchasing. He said it was a great experience that many never get, nowadays.

With the demise of local/small record shops and the introduction of big music warehouses like HMV, etc., there is no opportunity to create an ongoing relationship with a worker who knows your likes and dislikes; who can easily recommend something that you might have missed or be unaware of.
There is a new generation of music buyers who know how easily it is to download music. Yes, it gives you an opportunity to test out new tracks, but since there is no personal figure in the process of purchasing anymore, there is also no accountability. There is no guilt involved in downloading, because there is no answering to anyone in particular. You wouldn't want to rip off your old record store owner. Hell, half the fun of the music-buying experience was the interaction, the discussion, the one-on-oneness of it. Online, it doesn't matter. You are not a person, just an account number, just a purchaser of goods, not a lover of good music.
Reply #7 Top
You are buying into the RIAA's unfounded claims when you report uncritically that "corporations have been steadily losing income because of this piracy". There are many possible causes for the decline in sales, and it is most likely that a wide variety of factors contributed to the sales drop. Piracy MAY have been ONE element in the drop, but blindly ascribing the entire decline to that one element is oversimplistic.

Also, to the best of my recollection only one of the major publishers actually lowered their prices, and the amount was not "drastic" (in my estimation).
Reply #8 Top
I love how some people imply that information wants to be free, but would be upset if I had access to their personal information such as credit card numbers and what not (which is still information, which wants to be free).
Reply #9 Top
Feck them up the arse, the RIAA can't kick my booty for crapola.
Reply #10 Top
Heheh. You're funny, but I wouldn't call being a juvenile pimp a profession ;)

Umm.. Microsoft - REVENUE around 34 B I L L I O N. One company. The ENTIRE music industy is lamenting their CD sales (not revenue mind you) falling to a paltry 14 billion. Speakz for itzelf.

So, are saying that anything that appeals to the masses should be free?

Should all DVD movies be free?

Should all console games be free?

(Incidentally the RIAA is delusional in ways to numerous to list - althought that might make a nice article)
Reply #11 Top
Messy - you are 100% free to have my encrypted credit card number. zeroes and ones. Heck - give me your email and I'll send it over. If you crack it you're free to charge up as much as you like.

can you connect->the->dots ?
Reply #12 Top
One would think that if information truly wanted to be free, that it wouldn't want to be encrypted. Kind of defeats the point of it being free.
Reply #13 Top
So, are saying that anything that appeals to the masses should be free?

Should all DVD movies be free?

Should all console games be free?


Think outside your little box mate...

Not everyone find's the same joy from these material possesions you speak of! What appeals to you, and those around you, is not necessarily the masses.

Music is eternal.
Reply #14 Top
Why is music eternal, but not storytelling (i.e. movies), and playing (i.e. games)? Is it just that you aren't interested in these things, so they could charge, but since you don't want to pay for music, that should be free?
Reply #15 Top
OH my God.

story telling is eternal. playing is eternal. music is eternal - Britney spears sure as shit isn't though.

i dont think the story of terminator three is told around village community camp fires around africa, and i dont think they discuss the particulars of anti-virus software either.... they sure as shit play the bongos and marracas though.

I want to pay for music, but only in the form of live bands.
Reply #16 Top
I didn't realize that if something is done in Africa, that it should be free. By the way, they tell stories and play games in Africa, so I don't see why I should pay for any of those things. After all, it's not as though African tribes play the music you download, but once again, the whole "music is eternal and should be free" is just another excuse to download music without paying for it.
Reply #17 Top
You have missed my point completely... now i feel like i have wasted 3 minuted of my life on you.

You're argument, or whoever said it... was that Movies, Stories, Software appeals to the masses. My box is obviously a little bigger than yours, so think outside your little box, and enjoy the bigger picture.
Reply #18 Top
Hey, when you guys get done debating on whether or not music..(let's just call it information..that's what it all is in the long run) should be free,
let's get to debating on why are we told what we're supposed to like and fall for it. ^_^
Reply #19 Top
It's difficult to "enjoy the big picture" coming in sound bites, but I think I get your point. Would you say..

Anything which appeals to the masses and can be freely duplicated with no damage to the original art - should be free ?

What about books - assuming some sort of electronic distribution - free ?

You make an unconvincing jump from a live performance around a campfire in Africa (agreed - "eternal" as you say), to duplicating a recording that a professional musician has made FOR THE PURPOSE of making a living.

Being a pimp, here is an analogy you might understand: How would you feel if a john used one of your hoes without paying? I mean, she's got plenty of lovin to go around - no harm, right? And... sex is certainly "eternal" :)

By the way - I agree 100% musicians need to live off their live performances - but I'm not a musician or a lawyer - and I think it is all too easy for the greedy execs in the music business to say "ahh - the guy just wants to steal music"
Reply #20 Top
Ah... now you are talking in pimp talk i understand. :)

Ok... Let me just say i am all for Professional Musicians making a living... I am not for Record Execs mooching of these musicians though.

Everyone knows that the artist only get a very small percentage of the CD sales anyway - its only a viable way of making money for the musician when you get into the millions volumes.

What harm would there be in supporting file sharing over the internet and using the info for marketing purposes? I am sure the real music lovers out there would be happy to go to an extra 10-15 concerts a year as opposed to purchasing the standard 25 CDs a year. At least.
Reply #21 Top
Straight from the Studio to the Website to your Ears. Hell yes.

We are in a time of transformative chaos, and the dinosaurs are protecting their wealth. Understandable.

I predict there will be a couple "big stars" that break away and go independent - direct distribution - free or massively discounted. When this happens, the model as we know it will all fall apart within a few years.

Wake me up when I can by an in-dash receiver that tunes directly from internet radio. :)
Reply #23 Top
Yes, pay the artist. I see alot of comments elsewhere that "WHy pay so much for a cd when it is so cheap to make? It's outright thievery on their part!"..
Well, not really..in some ways yes, due to record contracts that can land a platinum artist in debt for three to four more sellout albums, but..

The price to produce a cd has more costs involved than just putting it on a piece of plastic.

If anyone is curious, I'll track down price examples. Let's just say an indepent artist can be in the red over an album up to three years of it being out..
That means they make 0 profit from their hard work til long after it's been in circulation. Let's say it sells REALLY big for the first year..but then gets traded out on the internet for free for a very long time..and cd sells drop to a stagnant level..That artist, independent or not, goes broke..bankrupt for some.. How's that make you feel?
Artists go to these big record labels because with help..they can produce (which they may never have been able to do on their own)..distibute (once again, something they might never be able to do on their own)..and profit (again) faster than if they did it on their own..Does it mean giving the middle man some loot? HELL YEAH.
Nothing's free..not even the songs you download. They might not cost you, but they will cost someone.

Does this mean I favor the RIAA's actions? Refer to my comment above about azz kicking. ;)
I guess it comes down to morality and if you can justify the download. To each their own, but remember..it'll always be someone elses' pockets your hands dip into..Maybe they can afford it and shouldn't care..(Hey Metallica?)..or maybe not..(insert independant)...But always costs more than the plastic it's burnt into. ^_^

Have a nice day!
Reply #25 Top
"For example, they have drastically reduced the prices of their products, making them more available to the public"

Since when is a $1 discount considered a drastic cut in price? Yes, music sharing is wrong in copyright. But filing a suit against a parentless teenager and then taking away all of her college funds for downloading such songs as "If You're Happy and You Know It" is wrong too. A bunch of dicks with a lawful copyright are still a bunch of dicks.

As for the whole record sales thing being in the red, it's been verified that most groups make the majority of their money on tour. And no matter how many versions of the song you download, nothing can reproduce the feeling of a live show. Therefore, fans will go to see the concert, creating revenue for the band and whoever manages them.

Maybe one day I'll be lucky enough to be extremely wealthy. Then, I can bitch and moan about how I only made 32 billion dollars instead of the expected 34. Or here's an idea: stop trying to market the crappy groups that are created for the sole purpose of making the record companies money. Market talented bands that have scratched and clawed for every inch that they have received. Then make a sampler CD, or something of the sort to promote them instead of expecting the consumer to shell out 14 bucks to buy an album that contains only one song they have heard. Anybody here remember Linkin Park? They put their whole debut CD on the internet for free download. It's a shame they did, because we all know how poor those guys are now.