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Multiplicity 4.01 Release Feedback

Multiplicity 4.01 Release Feedback

With the Multiplicity 4.01 release, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining the product

Object Desktop members can get the release from within Object Desktop Manager 

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page: https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

For guest check-out purchase (no account), from this link: http://www.stardock.com/support/productkeyretrieval

Reporting an issue

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)

  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen

  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive service (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube), with a shared link included in your post.  Images can be copied and pasted directly into a post.

  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Multiplicity a better product.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

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Reply #26 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 14

Open the KVM window.  Click the cog.  Untick "Only show computers which are powered on"
End of Neil's quote

Same issue.  This worked flawlessly before I upgraded from the initial release of 4.x to 4.01.

Reply #27 Top

Quoting elibarzilay, reply 25

As for opening a thread for each bug -- I'm dealing with this thing by keeping an open tab -- doing that for around 20 bugs is unmanageable.  I'd also argue the "most effective method" point, considering how this is a general basic (old) social tool, and things like GH/GitLab issues are specifically designed for bug reports.
End of elibarzilay's quote

We appreciate your perspective and it is well received.  That said, we have to work with what exists and what has worked for us and our clients to this point.  If there is a particular issue you would like to focus on, please create a thread for it and I would be happy to continue to work with you on it. 

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #28 Top

All,

Multiplicity 4.0.1.1 Beta has been released.  For details, please see:

https://forums.stardock.com/534990/multiplicity-4011-beta-feedback

As always, thank you for your time, feedback, and support.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #29 Top

Quoting magus, reply 26


Quoting Neil Banfield,

Open the KVM window.  Click the cog.  Untick "Only show computers which are powered on"



Same issue.  This worked flawlessly before I upgraded from the initial release of 4.x to 4.01.

End of magus's quote

This was addressed with the 4.0.1.1 beta

https://forums.stardock.com/534990/multiplicity-4011-beta-feedback

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #30 Top

Where can I download the beta preview. I'd like to test it. It can't work worse than the current version.

 

Here is my feedback on the current stable release.

Let me begin with the end. After I finally got it working, I noticed that sessions won't last longer than minutes before my connection drops. I have both computers in the same 1GB switch and selected medium compression. But after about a minute, if I move the mouse, the video connection will drop.

About setting up: I would expect the Test button to test every connection needed. It doesn't. I had to disable the firewall on the secondary to get it working. I wanted to configure proper firewall rules, but my sessions don't last long enough.

This (information courtesy of Co-Pilot)

  • Multiplicity Service: TCP port 30564
  • Multiplicity Clipboard: TCP port 30565
  • Multiplicity Audio Service: TCP port 30567
  • Multiplicity Remote Screen Service: TCP port 30569

Additionally, make sure the following executables are whitelisted in your firewall:

 

  • MPRDP64.EXE
  • Multipl2.EXE
  • multi2_64
  • multisrv64
  • multiplv64
     

does not seem to be enough.

I would really like to buy this product, but obviously it mist work first.

Reply #31 Top

I am getting a popup to upgrade, but the changelog is empty. What changed? It also doesn't list the version number it wants to update to.

https://www.stardock.com/products/multiplicity/history

Reply #32 Top

Quoting tom4536, reply 31

I am getting a popup to upgrade, but the changelog is empty. What changed? It also doesn't list the version number it wants to update to.

https://www.stardock.com/products/multiplicity/history
End of tom4536's quote

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. Try this one.

https://stardock.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/SHC/pages/2285469740/Multiplicity+4.01+Release+Changelog+Released+02+26+2025

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Reply #33 Top

Quoting janz1961, reply 30

I wanted to configure proper firewall rules, but my sessions don't last long enough.
End of janz1961's quote

For any firewall work on the remote PC, you are going to want to be at it, janz...

You are going to want to review this in full

https://support.stardock.com/space/SHC/1287946260/Multiplicity+Connection+issues+101

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #35 Top

Until yesterday, I have been using the KVM feature, and it worked fine.  The only thing that changed is that my master desktop was updated to Win 24H2 -- and now the KVM window shows fine, but no input goes through: neither mouse nor keyboard interaction.

Related: Multiplicity provides three ways to connect:

  • Seamless: fails for me if the remote reboots, or the network goes down for a bit.
  • Seamless display: fails after a few minutes (same as above).
  • KVM: now fails too.

FWIW, I very much like this combination of features, so I really wanted it to work.  But clearly, I'm now at a point where the whole thing is pretty much useless.

 

Reply #36 Top

Quoting elibarzilay, reply 35

Until yesterday, I have been using the KVM feature, and it worked fine.  The only thing that changed is that my master desktop was updated to Win 24H2 -- and now the KVM window shows fine, but no input goes through: neither mouse nor keyboard interaction.
End of elibarzilay's quote

So that app did not change, your OS did...

I know you honestly believe it to be a problem \ design issue with the app, however, in my 13 years at Stardock, it's never not been related to a firewall issue, 100% of the time.

https://support.stardock.com/space/SHC/1288044590/I+can+move+my+mouse+to+the+Secondary+but+cant+interact+with+the+desktop

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

 

Reply #37 Top

As I said, using the KVM feature is already so minimally useful that I don't see much point in fighting my firewall or whatever to keep that working.


Quoting sdRohan, reply 36

I know you honestly believe it to be a problem \ design issue with the app
End of sdRohan's quote

If it is a firewall problem, then there is certainly a problem with the app: how many apps would you install if they require you to fiddle with your firewall after random OS updates?  Just imagine that, for example, steam would have stopped working after my update -- would that be a considered a bug?

That was the problem part.  The design issue part is your intended audience.  I'm not expecting something that is as simple as the Windows Quick Assist feature which is designed to be as grandparent-proof as possible, but MP is placing itself at a point where even proper power users would doubt the time-investment vs utility ratio.

But again, this is all a side-comment.

 

Reply #38 Top

Quoting elibarzilay, reply 37

If it is a firewall problem, then there is certainly a problem with the app: how many apps would you install if they require you to fiddle with your firewall after random OS updates? 
End of elibarzilay's quote

I don't believe your statement here, that OS updates do not frequently cause apps that were working before to have issues after, is a commonly shared belief. I found this one particularly amusing as it was with one of their own products (Remote Desktop, which operates in the same space as MP)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/oh-cool-microsoft-melts-bug-that-froze-server-2025-remote-desktop-sessions/ar-AA1DD9fC?ocid=BingNewsVerp

But the release has been plagued with issues since its rollout started:

https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=windows+update+problems&qs=n&form=QBNT&sp=-1&lq=0&pq=windows+update+problems&sc=10-23&sk=&cvid=686D3CC2FC4A475F8A3EE7EAD837CD3E

Quoting elibarzilay, reply 37

As I said, using the KVM feature is already so minimally useful that I don't see much point in fighting my firewall or whatever to keep that working.
End of elibarzilay's quote

Thats certainly your perogative but the batch file I wrote that's there will almost certainly fix it.  Give it a shot (on both PCs).  If it does not work, we can keep working on it with you.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

 

 

 

Reply #39 Top

Hello, I am a graduate student at a university. Every day when I use Multiplicity 4, I use a desktop computer and a laptop. Recently, I found a software bug. When I use a desktop mouse as a laptop, if there is a network fluctuation or other disconnection between the two computers, my mouse will not work with either computer. Even after reconnecting the two computers, the problem still cannot be solved. The only solution is to restart your desktop computer. I would like to ask how to resolve this situation. Is it a software design flaw? Is it possible to design keyboard shortcuts in the future to allow the mouse to detach from the controlled computer and return directly to the desktop computer?

Reply #40 Top

Quoting sdRohan, reply 38


Quoting elibarzilay,


I don't believe your statement here, that OS updates do not frequently cause apps that were working before to have issues after, is a commonly shared belief.

End of sdRohan's quote

 

I didn't say anything about frequency of breakages.  What I said is that it would be better if the app deals with that itself instead of doing these runarounds.  (Which at least sounds relatively easy since you're using TCP, and it's a simple issue of maintaining a few FW rules.)

Reply #41 Top

Quoting elibarzilay, reply 37

Just imagine that, for example, steam would have stopped working after my update -- would that be a considered a bug?
End of elibarzilay's quote

Ill do you one better, MS update caused it to flag Chrome itself. 

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-defender-flags-google-chrome-updates-as-suspicious/

Quoting elibarzilay, reply 40

What I said is that it would be better if the app deals with that itself instead of doing these runarounds.  (Which at least sounds relatively easy since you're using TCP, and it's a simple issue of maintaining a few FW rules.)
End of elibarzilay's quote

You are saying we should fix what MS breaks.  We have built an entire software division around that ;)

Let me know the result of running the bat file when you can, please. 

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

 

Reply #42 Top

Quoting sdRohan, reply 41


Ill do you one better, MS update caused it to flag Chrome itself. 

You are saying we should fix what MS breaks.  We have built an entire software division around that ;)

Let me know the result of running the bat file when you can, please. 
 
End of sdRohan's quote

 

The question is whether you can do something about it.  In the case of just resetting the firewall, it would be much better to just include that batch file and have a menu entry that runs it.  Even better would be to say something about that menu entry if it suspects a misconfigured firewall.  Further better could be to do that silently after actually inspecting the FW rules and when the connection doesn't work (possibly asking nicely first).

In any case...  I never intended to suggest that the script won't work: I actually fully expected it to work.  The main thing that bothered me was the need to do something manual.


But because you asked, and I actually had a few minutes, I finally tried it.  I first ran it step-by-step to see for each rule whether there were any changes.  Several rule names were already present (I can list them if it'd help).  Resetting them one-by-one (on the main desktop) didn't make it work.  I then tried running the whole script, and still broken.  Finally, I ran it on the controlled laptop, and the KVM connection stopped working (ie, I couldn't connect at all, and MP said so).  Next, I rebooted the laptop, and things got back to the same place: the KVM feature connects, but no mouse/keyboard input.

The only thing I did not do is reboot the desktop (the primary machine).  I can try that if you really think it can make a difference, but I'd rather avoid rebooting this machine.

(Disclaimer: my MP registration code should be invalid now, but the KVM does seem to still work. I don't know if that could make any difference, though it's basically the same as it was all week.)

 

Sidepoint: it's confusing that the echo-ed labels are different from the rule names in some cases.  That was the main reason I just re-ran the thing completely after trying them one-by-one, to be sure that I didn't make any mistakes.

 

Reply #43 Top

If you have a 3rd party AV app, as a test, shut it down and rely only on Windows Defender for the test.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #45 Top

Quoting elibarzilay, reply 44

I don't, and never had.

 
End of elibarzilay's quote

Again, I have never seen it not be a firewall issue.  If you totally disable Windows firewall (domain, private, public) on any \ all MP PCs, does it work?

Something else you will want to ensure in the firewall:

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #46 Top

After updating my laptop from Windows 10 to Windows 11, Multiplicity will not connect. I uninstalled and reinstalled Multiplicity on both the primary and the laptop secondary; I copied the Multiplicity4_setup_sd.exe file used to reinstall on the primary to the laptop to ensure the same install version. It still fails to connect with the same error message: "The computer appears to be running a different version of Multiplicity."

"About" on the primary shows "Version 4.01 Pro" while the laptop (and other secondaries to which I can connect) shows "Version 4.01". The other secondaries run Windows 10. The laptop was the first of my machines to get Windows 11.

Reply #47 Top

Quoting nickotime, reply 46

After updating my laptop from Windows 10 to Windows 11, Multiplicity will not connect. I uninstalled and reinstalled Multiplicity on both the primary and the laptop secondary; I copied the Multiplicity4_setup_sd.exe file used to reinstall on the primary to the laptop to ensure the same install version. It still fails to connect with the same error message: "The computer appears to be running a different version of Multiplicity."

"About" on the primary shows "Version 4.01 Pro" while the laptop (and other secondaries to which I can connect) shows "Version 4.01". The other secondaries run Windows 10. The laptop was the first of my machines to get Windows 11.
End of nickotime's quote

On each PC, please try

https://support.stardock.com/space/SHC/1347158073/Multiplicity+purging+and+re-installing

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #49 Top

Quoting nickotime, reply 48

That worked. Why doesn't standard uninstall/reinstall work?
End of nickotime's quote

Pleased to read it worked for you.

Sean Drohan

Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #50 Top

About three days ago, when I was using Multiplicity 4.01, the mouse cursor would most likely trigger keyboard F-zone keys such as F2 and F8 on the main computer when shuttling between different computers. We need to restart Multiplicity 4.01 to resolve the issue, but it will reappear later. I reinstalled the software and reset the network, but still cannot solve the problem.