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Start11 2.5 Release Feedback Thread

Start11 2.5 Release Feedback Thread

With the Start11 2.5 release, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining the product

Object Desktop members can get the release from within Object Desktop Manager 

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page: https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

For guest check-out purchase (no account), from this link: http://www.stardock.com/support/productkeyretrieval

Reporting an issue

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)

  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen

  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive service (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube), with a shared link included in your post.  Images can be copied and pasted directly into a post.

  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Star11 v2 a better product.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

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Reply #76 Top

I think the new features in release 2.5 are great additions to the software. I appreciate that the product which I bought is developed and improved. So I just want to say thank you to Stardock and all who contribute to the development, as well to other customers who have bought the product - making it possible for the developer to offer this software.

 

For me Start11 is mandatory in either Win 10 or 11. I can´t stand the standard start menu (or rather advertisment billboard) that Microsoft "offers" as standard in their so called OS:es. (To me the last real start menu and last real OS from MS was Windows 7).

 

Best regards

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Reply #77 Top

Quoting m_hult2, reply 76

I think the new features in release 2.5 are great additions to the software. I appreciate that the product which I bought is developed and improved. So I just want to say thank you to Stardock and all who contribute to the development, as well to other customers who have bought the product - making it possible for the developer to offer this software.

For me Start11 is mandatory in either Win 10 or 11. I can´t stand the standard start menu (or rather advertisment billboard) that Microsoft "offers" as standard in their so called OS:es. (To me the last real start menu and last real OS from MS was Windows 7).

Best regards
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Thank you very much for the kind words, m_hult2.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #78 Top

Just updated Start11 to 2.5 and on reboot, the system explorer became unusable with the taskbar, desktop and ObjectDock 3 becoming unresponsive. Everything worked fine before.

 

Rainmeter functions as normal and good thing since it allowed me to run the Task Manager. Once I was able to get to the task manager running. Terminating the OD3 task, both the taskbar and system performed normally.

I restarted OD3 and the issue with system performance and both OD3 and the taskbar (unresponsive) began again.

Having the Start11 settings opened before I restarted OD3, I disabled the "Let Start11 enhance the taskbar" and then the OD3 and windows taskbar performing as expected.

ObjectDock 3 is at rev 3.01. I'm going to disable it for now. 

Windows:

Edition Windows 11 Pro

Version 24H2

Installed on ‎12/‎28/‎2024

OS build 26100.2894

Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.26100.36.0

System:

Processor AMD Ryzen 7 6800H with Radeon Graphics            3.20 GHz

Installed RAM 32.0 GB (27.7 GB usable)

Device ID 13C20742-9057-410D-BD22-5705C4FAF950

Product ID 00331-20300-00000-AA350

System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

Bill A.

Reply #79 Top

Quoting whashton, reply 78

Just updated Start11 to 2.5 and on reboot, the system explorer became unusable with the taskbar, desktop and ObjectDock 3 becoming unresponsive. Everything worked fine before.

 

Rainmeter functions as normal and good thing since it allowed me to run the Task Manager. Once I was able to get to the task manager running. Terminating the OD3 task, both the taskbar and system performed normally.

I restarted OD3 and the issue with system performance and both OD3 and the taskbar (unresponsive) began again.

Having the Start11 settings opened before I restarted OD3, I disabled the "Let Start11 enhance the taskbar" and then the OD3 and windows taskbar performing as expected.

ObjectDock 3 is at rev 3.01. I'm going to disable it for now. 

Windows:

Edition Windows 11 Pro

Version 24H2

Installed on ‎12/‎28/‎2024

OS build 26100.2894

Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.26100.36.0

System:

Processor AMD Ryzen 7 6800H with Radeon Graphics            3.20 GHz

Installed RAM 32.0 GB (27.7 GB usable)

Device ID 13C20742-9057-410D-BD22-5705C4FAF950

Product ID 00331-20300-00000-AA350

System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

Bill A.
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How many monitors do you have?

Reply #81 Top

Windows 11 23H2 22635.4800

Taskbar Left Aligned

Taskbar Size> Small

Taskbar>Enhanced taskbar settings>Taskbar text Medium

Taskbar>Enhanced taskbar settings>Taskbar button style> Windows 11 style

Taskbar>Enhanced taskbar settings>Allow taskbar to be resized> Yes

 

Launch the File Explorer app that's pinned to the taskbar, the pinned items "grow" vertically and cover up the start button.  Doesn't seem to happen with other pinned apps.

Start Button>Default image- the start button is covered up

Start Button>Use Custom image- the start button appears to be on top of the app buttons

 

Reply #82 Top

When using the new vertical taskbar in Start11 v2.5, the system tray icons for Ethernet, Location, and Wi-Fi all appear upside down in the notification area (see screenshots below).

I am using Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2 (OS Build 26100.2894), and the vertical taskbar is set to the right side of my screen.

 

 

 

 

 

Reply #84 Top

The setup UI under Japan location setting shows only mojibake.

Only the cancel dialog shows correct Japanese.

Windows version 10.0.22631.4602

Reply #85 Top

Unfortunately, I didn't see this thread until after I created another thread at https://forums.stardock.com/533831/start-11-v25-vertical-taskbars-on-windows-11.

Great effort on making vertical taskbars available in Windows 11, but some improvements would make this excellent. The issues are: secondary taskbar not resizable, primary taskbar notification icons alignment should be horizontal, hiding the network icon, and alignment of clock after explorer restart. See: https://forums.stardock.com/533831/start-11-v25-vertical-taskbars-on-windows-11 for more info.

Reply #86 Top

FANTASTIC JOB!  Thank you so much Stardock team!

This is a life-changing improvement to Windows 11.  I have been using StartAllBack for a vertical sidebar but I didn't realize how much it was slowing down my system until I switched to Start11.  I am super happy with it and I absolutely love the "Pin Folder Menu" button.  This is the best launchpad for Windows I have ever used -- simple and fast.

My one complaint:  For those of us who have a little width to our vertical sidebar, consider packing the system tray icons in a grid rather than in a straight vertical column.  I have about 8 or so icons that I like to remain visible, but they are taking unnecessary real estate from the task bar. 

Again, great work!  LOVE YOU PEOPLE!

--Lenehey

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Reply #87 Top

Is my issue just gonna be ignored?

I can't even rollback to a previous version, the whole reason i purchased this software was to have the taskbar at the top, i've been supporting it since Windows 11 came out. Please fix the search bar.

Reply #88 Top

Quoting cottontails2, reply 87

Is my issue just gonna be ignored?

I can't even rollback to a previous version, the whole reason i purchased this software was to have the taskbar at the top, i've been supporting it since Windows 11 came out. Please fix the search bar.
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Unfortunately I don't think anyone reported it during the beta (I think, apologies if I missed it) which is why it remained in the release version.

We plan to do an update this coming week based on some issues reported and will investigate that too.  Obviously the more information you can supply on your setup the better as it really helps reproducing issues.

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Reply #89 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 88


Quoting cottontails2,

Is my issue just gonna be ignored?

I can't even rollback to a previous version, the whole reason i purchased this software was to have the taskbar at the top, i've been supporting it since Windows 11 came out. Please fix the search bar.



Unfortunately I don't think anyone reported it during the beta (I think, apologies if I missed it) which is why it remained in the release version.

We plan to do an update this coming week based on some issues reported and will investigate that too.  Obviously the more information you can supply on your setup the better as it really helps reproducing issues.

End of Neil's quote

Everything was working fine before the 2.5 beta, i always have my taskbar at the top and the search would open like normal. Once i installed the beta, the search bar will disappear when you click in it and the search menu does not open, upon further inspection the menu does actually open but it's invisible, because i can type and open a program. I posted screenshots of the problem if you look back on the comments.

Reply #90 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 88

Unfortunately I don't think anyone reported it during the beta (I think, apologies if I missed it) which is why it remained in the release version.

We plan to do an update this coming week based on some issues reported and will investigate that too. Obviously the more information you can supply on your setup the better as it really helps reproducing issues.
End of Neil's quote

I can reproduce this issue on my 24h2 build of windows 11. While the taskbar is at the top; the search view of (search icon only) and (search icon and label) work as expected. This bug is specific to the search view option (search box) while the taskbar is on the top.

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Reply #91 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 64

For those with some 2.5 issues we have a test build here https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ahvwl0nmANO2k-4EMFMJwFOAYC86tw

Changes :

1) Hopefully resolved issue with explorer windows popping up on Win11 with ExplorerPatcher and potentially could happen on Win10 too...

...Please do let us know if this helps.  I recommend uninstalling first, rebooting and then installing the new build.
End of Neil's quote

Thank you for the update! This fixed the file explorer popups for me :)

- and good job on the fast fix! (I may speak up more when things go wrong, but I love the app) :beer:

Reply #92 Top

Quoting PhoenixRising1, reply 90


Quoting Neil Banfield,

Unfortunately I don't think anyone reported it during the beta (I think, apologies if I missed it) which is why it remained in the release version.

We plan to do an update this coming week based on some issues reported and will investigate that too. Obviously the more information you can supply on your setup the better as it really helps reproducing issues.



I can reproduce this issue on my 24h2 build of windows 11. While the taskbar is at the top; the search view of (search icon only) and (search icon and label) work as expected. This bug is specific to the search view option (search box) while the taskbar is on the top.

End of PhoenixRising1's quote

Thats very useful thank you and may also explain what's going wrong.

So as a short term workaround set the search mode to icon mode.

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Reply #94 Top

Right-Click on Taskbar Icons Not Working at Top Position After Latest Update.

After the latest update (January 17), I noticed that right-clicking on taskbar icons no longer works when the taskbar is positioned at the top of the screen. This is the main reason I purchased Start11, so it’s frustrating that this functionality is now broken.

Right-click works fine when the taskbar is at the bottom or left, but it completely stops working at the top.

I have already tried:

-Uninstalling and reinstalling Start11.

-Restarting the system multiple times.

....Unfortunately, the issue persists.

Could I possibly get access to the previous version of Start11? The earlier version worked without any issues.

Thank you for your help!

Reply #95 Top

Quoting wrongform, reply 94

Right-Click on Taskbar Icons Not Working at Top Position After Latest Update.

After the latest update (January 17), I noticed that right-clicking on taskbar icons no longer works when the taskbar is positioned at the top of the screen. This is the main reason I purchased Start11, so it’s frustrating that this functionality is now broken.

Right-click works fine when the taskbar is at the bottom or left, but it completely stops working at the top.

I have already tried:

-Uninstalling and reinstalling Start11.

-Restarting the system multiple times.

....Unfortunately, the issue persists.

Could I possibly get access to the previous version of Start11? The earlier version worked without any issues.

Thank you for your help!
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Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. It is best if you include information of your Windows. Need to know you on Windows 10 or 11? Also need its full version and OS Build number. Please use Winver.exe.

Thank you,
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

Reply #97 Top

Quoting wrongform, reply 96

win 11 pro / 24H2 / 26.100.2894
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I can not reproduce your issue on my system. Just make sure to turn on Start11 enhance taskbar.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Reply #98 Top

Quoting wrongform, reply 94

Right-Click on Taskbar Icons Not Working at Top Position After Latest Update.

After the latest update (January 17), I noticed that right-clicking on taskbar icons no longer works when the taskbar is positioned at the top of the screen. This is the main reason I purchased Start11, so it’s frustrating that this functionality is now broken.

Right-click works fine when the taskbar is at the bottom or left, but it completely stops working at the top.

I have already tried:

-Uninstalling and reinstalling Start11.

-Restarting the system multiple times.

....Unfortunately, the issue persists.

Could I possibly get access to the previous version of Start11? The earlier version worked without any issues.

Thank you for your help!
End of wrongform's quote

I have tried to reproduce this and the closest I can get is the right click menu will not show when the thumbnail window is open.

This is avoidable by moving the mouse a little bit before right clicking and appears to be a limitation of Windows itself in that scenario possibly caused by some OS updates.

An alternative is to enable enhanced taskbar in Start11 settings.

Reply #99 Top

The test build looks to have resolved the GadgetPack issue.  Before I update my main computer from v2.11, is there any reason why the fix wouldn't work with a multi-monitor setup? I don't have a v2.11 install file to back to [insert standard grumble about Stardock practices here].

Reply #100 Top

Quoting Neil_N, reply 99

The test build looks to have resolved the GadgetPack issue.  Before I update my main computer from v2.11, is there any reason why the fix wouldn't work with a multi-monitor setup? I don't have a v2.11 install file to back to [insert standard grumble about Stardock practices here].
End of Neil_N's quote

I would hold off as I think we are going to do a proper update with some other tweaks.